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  1. 01-10-2005, 10:00 PM #1
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    Header pipe glowing orange it's so hot on startup!

    First off, thanks for all the great responses for all my questions. Lots of ideas and things to try thrown around.


    Upon it's first firing up in 2 years after a full rebuild, the headpipe was gliowing red hot in like a minute. The idle is all messed up and revving to the moon. The exhaust is stock and like new condition. The pilot was turned out 2 full turns from being set. I'm not sure the jet sizes, whatever came with the kit.
    I took off the CDI cover and stator cover and aligned everything up on TDC. Including the little cdi thing behind the 10mm bolt with the rubber piece. Apparently that's supposed to be lined up when the crank is on the F mark. Would this be the cause of my glowing hot headpipe? Maybe the timing is WAAAY advanced causing it to run hot?
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  2. 01-10-2005, 10:07 PM #2
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    im not quit sure why it is glowing orange, but i can tell you one thing when I put my Dg rcm exhaust on my auto x when it first started up with tthe new pipe it glowed orange for about 2 minutes but it has never done it since.
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  3. 01-10-2005, 10:15 PM #3
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    make sure its not clogged up with something. I had a rats nest in one of my 85r pipes and it ran bad and got really hot.
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  4. 01-10-2005, 10:28 PM #4
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    Air leak in the intake tract causing it to run lean and idle high.
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  5. 01-10-2005, 11:38 PM #5
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  6. 01-11-2005, 11:57 AM #6
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    I had the same thing happen on my big red and it turned out I had my jets backwards, I had the highflow largest jet were the small one goes and vise versa, I had the same symptoms mentioned.
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  7. 01-11-2005, 04:26 PM #7
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    This is normal on 450R's so I'm other models do it as well.
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  8. 01-11-2005, 04:37 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blown 331
    This is normal on 450R's so I'm other models do it as well.
    Glowing orange is only normal on poorly turned machines.
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  9. 01-12-2005, 09:53 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolin86
    Glowing orange is only normal on poorly turned machines.
    http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthre...t=glowing+450r

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  10. 01-12-2005, 09:59 AM #10
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  11. 01-12-2005, 11:02 AM #11
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    Oldschoolin I will also disagree with you. I have seen it as well. However, Kilabeez has a multiple problems with his trike so in this reference I can see. But it is very hard to follow what exactly is going on with his trike. Kilabeez a suggestion, Post all issues in one thread. I wouldnt worry about the orange until you get the high idle fixed, the shaking fixed, and whatever else you have going on fixed.
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  12. 01-12-2005, 11:24 AM #12
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    Glowing orange is only normal on poorly turned machines.
    not true! ever been around the new 450's? both the yamaha and the honda GLOW orange ,,,, all the time and it has nothing to do with POOR TUNING...
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  14. 01-12-2005, 02:25 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by KASEY
    not true! ever been around the new 450's? both the yamaha and the honda GLOW orange ,,,, all the time and it has nothing to do with POOR TUNING...
    LOL, I've got a YFZ out in the garage. Can't say that it glows orange.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blown 331
    http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthr...ht=glowing+450r

    http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthr...ht=450r+glowing
    Oh jeeez, don't get me started on exriders. That site is horrible. When your not getting the sponcership force feed you can take a break and answer a should I 440 my 400ex question.
    Quote Originally Posted by jenndnn3
    Oldschoolin I will also disagree with you. I have seen it as well.
    Alright, I'll admit I haven't seen a lot of these new 450's in action but why doesn't the one I ride do it? Due to the stong voice of all of you I'll hold my opinion on these newer machines but it still applies to these older ones.
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  15. 01-12-2005, 03:46 PM #15
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    Damn oldschoolin are you captain of the debate team or what?
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