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    1 inch pipe expander?

    Where can a fella find a 1 inch pipe expander? I've looked around the web. The only ones I find are in $200+++ kits. Uhh...NO.


    ATC 200, S, M, E & ES all use the same header and the exit shank is right about 1.125 If I could find a one inch pipe expander I could use 1 inch rigid conduit which is like 1-1/16 ID to solve a LOT of exhaust issues. Finding a suitable muffle is not difficult. The tractor world is full of usable muffler but that transition from header to muffler is the killer.
    A pipe bender and an expander would solve that for sure.
    I think the conduit would hold up pretty well. It's thick enough to take the heat but thin enough to easily crush to a good seal.

    This would solve a LOT the issues I have with the half dozen trikes I have that need fixin'!


    Thanks for any input or opinions.
    I was born and raised on Venus & I may be here a while.....

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    Yeah, good luck finding a 1" pipe expander. I've looked before and could only find 1 1/8". I had your problem recently with an old-school exhaust. I needed a longer tube to connect the stinger with the expansion chamber. My solution was to buy slightly different sized thin-walled 4130 steel tubing--sliding one tube into another--and soldering them together. It worked great. Below is the link where I bought them. You can get them in 1 ft. lengths. Here are the dimensions of the tubes. It's a tight slip fit so all you need to do is solder them.

    1.125 x .049 x 1.027 and 1.25 x .065 x 1.12

    https://www.onlinemetals.com/merchan...=2&top_cat=197

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    I think you're right.
    I think me and Mister South Bend lathe are gonna have a little pow wow tomorrow and see what i can't MAKE me one. Heck, how hard can it be?

    Looking at the bend on the inlet pipe of an ES/E type muffler...that could be done easily with a conduit bender. If I could expand the pipe to be a tight fit to the header, that would open up a new world of options. Pass or fail, I am going to try it. $10 for a 10ft stick at Lowe's. I'm thinking a little heat from my acetylene torch would make things a little easier. Trial and error.

    The next hurdle will be where to get a suitable clamp. If all else fails I'll do a as you say and solder the bugger. I would rather have it easily disassembled though.

    I got an '84 200X to build next year. I have the header but no muffler. If I can get this right, that'll really help there.
    I was born and raised on Venus & I may be here a while.....

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    Crazyktmmatt is offline At The Back Of The Pack Arm chair racerFirst time rider
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    Might look at the harbor freight expanders
    200x - I think I have 7 of em?

    10 70's
    3 350x's
    Tri Z
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    kxt
    and the 90 110 125m that I need to get rid of.
    YT175 with rear suspension sold
    200es- SOLD !!!!!!

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    This is gonna be harder than I thought. I managed to expand one end but for the life of me I cannot get it to expand evenly. All I managed was a belled mouth. Grrrrr.
    I was born and raised on Venus & I may be here a while.....

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    Another problem with pipe expanders is they need to be inserted all the way--2 to 3 inches--otherwise you just flare the pipe and don't get a good seal.

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    Yeah, no kidding! Where were you a few hours ago before I wasted time I’ll never get back!!!!!!!

    HaHaHa!!! Just kidding. Well....not on the wasted time part. F-me, every trip I travel must be traversed thrice.
    I was born and raised on Venus & I may be here a while.....

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    A few years back before an Ice Fest, I went to 4 different muffler shops. At that time, I was trying to adapt 450 exhaust to my 350X, and I needed a custom mid pipe; Well, just like you found, I couldn't get any help. None of them had ANYTHING that was small enough to help me.I ended up buying a larger pipe, chopped it and welded it to fit another piece and cobbled it together. It wasn't right and it wasn't fun...
    All our government does is distract us while they steal from us, misspend our tax $ and ruin our country

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