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    Broken 185s frame

    I tipped my trike up to put my footpeg that fell off while riding back on and to my suprise i found my frame broken in 2 places! Im hoping i can push it back close to where it should be and weld it up... I wonder what broke it!Click image for larger version. 

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    I had a 185 that had all kinds of fractured frame spots all welded to hell.
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    I found a service bulletin (online) dated October 1983 for the 1983 185s. It showed where the frame cracks and how to fix it, for what it's worth. Must have been common.

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    weight and steel fatigue are common reasons why the frames break. I have welded up a friends frame in 4 places already, he even broke the lower front motor mounts brackets once. but he also jumps his 185's like its a fully suspended race bike.
    rectum nothin damn near killed them
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    I welded it back together today. It should hold but it wasnt anything worth taking a picture of

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    Well ive got some more welding to do on this trike. I was riding in a flash food and slid into a rock. My foot that was pressing the brake pedal took the full impact. My foot is fine thanks to riding boots but the peg that the brake pedal mounts on is nearly broken off the frame. I think it may have broke so bad because it was in the heat effected zone of the last welds.

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    exactly what part of the bike is that?

    why is the frame caved in?

    from what i can see, it looks like you could run around a 1/2" diameter tube from one section to the other to triangulate it . . also weld the cracks then grind the weld down and put a curved plate over the welds . . if done properly, it will likely never crack there again.

    if you want help and you post a few photos from different angles, then i or someone else can tell you the best way to properly repair it.
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    Sounds like you to start thinking things through. Riding through a flash flood? Really? Im not trying to be an a** but that's how you get killed. Or destroy a good 3 wheeler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dman10 View Post
    Sounds like you to start thinking things through. Riding through a flash flood? Really? Im not trying to be an a** but that's how you get killed. Or destroy a good 3 wheeler.
    Well gee im sure sorry that a storm came out of nowhere when i was a half hour away from the truck. I probably shoulda been goin slower but i was ready to be back at the truck so i was haulin ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truck Norris View Post
    Well gee im sure sorry that a storm came out of nowhere when i was a half hour away from the truck. I probably shoulda been goin slower but i was ready to be back at the truck so i was haulin ass.
    you could simply get a 12 volt portable satelite tv and mount it top your bike so you could check the weather channel any time you want.

    http://www.12volt-travel.com/portabl...c-689_563.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by barnett468 View Post
    exactly what part of the bike is that?

    why is the frame caved in?

    from what i can see, it looks like you could run around a 1/2" diameter tube from one section to the other to triangulate it . . also weld the cracks then grind the weld down and put a curved plate over the welds . . if done properly, it will likely never crack there again.

    if you want help and you post a few photos from different angles, then i or someone else can tell you the best way to properly repair it.
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    That is right where the brake pedal mounts. It is caved in like that because when i hit the rock it cracked where the peg is and the brake pedal was just outside of the foot peg. On the way back the pedal caught a bush and bent it clear back to the tire caving it in right there. The pictures i posted are after i bent the pedal back to where it felt right and then took it off.
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    Ok, there are a couple things you can do if you want . . if you do not jump the bike or ride it fast over bumps, you can do a small, simple repair by welding the cracks and grinding the weld and putting a curved piece of metal around half of the tube over the welded area.

    it looks like your bike broke in half before because of all that other weld on the tube below the cracked area . . I would grind this weld down also half way around the tube and just use one patch of curved metal to cover them all . . you might have to track the patch into place then heat it with a torch them it so it fits the frame tube perfectly.

    You can make a piece of curved metal by simply cutting a round tube down the center . . just buy a tube that is the next size up from you frame and use that.

    If you want it stronger then add the tube I suggested but make it 3/4" . . you can also add one to connect the other tubes below the brake pedal mount . . lt looks like theses additional tubes would be around 2 inches long for the tubes under the pedal and around 2 ½ inches .long for the other two tubes . . unfortunately I have no way to show you an example of this so you can see what I mean.

    The engine should come out to do it properly.

    i would need a better photo of the front break if you want a suggestion for that.

    basically, you are wanting to wrap the frame with another piece of tubing so as much of the frame as possible is encased by the patches . . if you had a round tube that was broken in the canter and you cut the next size bigger tube down the center and made these two halves of the tube around 1 inch long, you could completely encase the frame with it . . you would want to leave around a 3/16" gap where the two halves of the repair pieces cam together so when you weld it, the weld will attach the two halves to the frame and to each other . . you could even grind down the weld on the seam after that if you wanted to make it look nicer . . this is standard crack repair procedure.

    you should never weld a tube that is broken in half back together without adding some sort of patch because it will typically crack again if it is given enough time.

    you can also sometimes get away with just a triangular piece of flat metal like 3/16" thick but i cant quite see enough of your frame to see if that would likely be strong enough to use in place of the round tubes to bridge the frame tubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glamy View Post
    Truck Norris is a Brutamus Maximus !.........he does`nt make excuses ........he`ll brake things and fix dem !.........thats what he does ! Storms pop up in the desert and theres nothing you can do ! I`m glad she`s running good with the strait pipe Truck !
    Just imagine how big you can go on the 185s. I stress the s race bike. Keep them coming Glamy you crack me up.
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