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    SX/ES Stator Swap?

    will an SX stator swap out with an 85 250ES? i know the engines are similar but not sure if the stator/flywheel are the same. Any thoughts?
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    It should swap ok. The parts fiche now shows a common part number for both 85 models.

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    you da man! thats what i wanted to hear. thanks. did it change in 86?
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    I would be careful though....There are different part #'s within the 85 model yr. May change the pulse coil connections.
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    86 has a different end from stator.. and different cdi..
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    There are 2 makes of the stator which have different size flywheel & stator from what little I know about the SX/ES. Pretty sure- if your swapping-& If theyre different -you must swap flywheel along with the stator or vice versa (as a set) And- Im not sure though if its a yr. to yr. or model to model thing or what? Or it could have come with either??? Hopefully someone can clear this up?
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    3wheelrider you are correct you can use stator but need flywheel and I always use the sx cdi with sx stator or es with es
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    Ya there are several different part numbers associated with the stator but the current one is listed for both models. I also agree that the flywheel that goes with the SX stator you intend on using should swap over as well. In 86, Honda did a slight redesign to the stator, flywheel, and one way bearing. The change to the bearing is what drove the redesign of the stator and flywheel.

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    ok. i had a bad seal on the shift shaft and a bad stator. i changed out the case cover with an SX case that i know had a good stator. she fired right up and runs right. lights work. would i know right away if it was mismatched, or would it be something over time where a problem would arise?
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    No you are good to go. No further actions required.

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    If it works you should be all set!

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    this site is the best. thanks boys.
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    OK, update. And HELP needed. my cousin, (and inactive member on here) bought an 86 250ES a few years ago. Good shape, but had previous owner said it had a bad stator. Well, we put a battery in it, and sure enough it would draw until the battery was dead. We bought a used stator from eBay form a guy in maine. swapped it out and it was the same problem. after that, he just kind of lived with having limited headlight range as well as e start. when the battery died, he had neither. well, move forward a few years and he asks me to address a broken shift return pivot bolt and leaky shift shaft seal. so, now i had a known good stator from an 85 sx. i swapped out cases (and fixed the pivot bolt). Everything seemed ok, but after a ride on friday, by day's end, dim headlight and no e-start. I'm stuck. but, i'm thinking that there may be a difference between 85 and 86 rather than a difference in ES and SX. Does anyone have a known good 86 ES stator? is there an option to buy a new one? Is there something other than the stator that would cause the problem?
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    Possibly a bad RECTIFIER / REGULATOR or a broken wire in the harness . See if you have higher voltage when the motor is running than when not running . Check it at the battery terminals




    Quote Originally Posted by redsox View Post
    OK, update. And HELP needed. my cousin, (and inactive member on here) bought an 86 250ES a few years ago. Good shape, but had previous owner said it had a bad stator. Well, we put a battery in it, and sure enough it would draw until the battery was dead. We bought a used stator from eBay form a guy in maine. swapped it out and it was the same problem. after that, he just kind of lived with having limited headlight range as well as e start. when the battery died, he had neither. well, move forward a few years and he asks me to address a broken shift return pivot bolt and leaky shift shaft seal. so, now i had a known good stator from an 85 sx. i swapped out cases (and fixed the pivot bolt). Everything seemed ok, but after a ride on friday, by day's end, dim headlight and no e-start. I'm stuck. but, i'm thinking that there may be a difference between 85 and 86 rather than a difference in ES and SX. Does anyone have a known good 86 ES stator? is there an option to buy a new one? Is there something other than the stator that would cause the problem?
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    ok, i'll try and get to it tonight. i'll report back. i tried to do it earlier but dead batteries in my meter.
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