Heinz 87: My 1987 LT250R

[C.J]

Just gotta share her. I'll get pics up in a bit but I'm EXCITED right now.

Weighed her earlier and it came in at 239.2 pounds wet. Stock is 324 pounds DRY! I'm STOKED!!!

[C.J]

1987 Suzuki LT250R:

Retired ice bike out of Michigan. Was raced from 87-93. Blew 87 cylinder in late 89 and was replaced with a port match 88 cylinder. Unknown porter.

Engine:
Mystery ported 88 jug (can't ID porting sig and original owner can't remember who did it,,, bummer)
69mm bore (262cc)
TM34
PSI pipe, DG Type II silencer
88+ flywheel
194lbs of compression after 2 years of hard running.
Runs 100LL/93 pump mixed with Golden Spectro @ 32:1.

Chassis:
Straight, uncracked 87 frame
NOS swinger, carrier and 24 spline axle
88 Quadzilla a-arms
Triple rate Works AT Steeler front shocks
Freshly rebuilt stock rear shock
YFZ450X rear hubs
Stock LT front hubs
LTZ400 front master cylinder with braided stainless front line.
(YFZ brake update planned for front and rear)
Steel AC Nerfs on old school purple (once I get the fitment issues figured out)

Wheels/Tires:
Front - 20x6-10 Maxxis Razr MX yellow label on stock D.I.D rims
Rear - 18x10-8 Maxxis Razr MX yellow label on HiPer CF3 dual beadlock rims.

Plastics:
Front - Cut unknown 2-piece skins
Rear - Old school Maier low pro's
Hood - stock 87 Zilla hood cut to fit
Seat - stock 85/86 straight seat pan/foam, CEET cover

Other junk:
In line digital temp gauge w/bar mounted read out
NOS radiator
Clipped throttle spring
13 / 36 gearing with D.I.D non-o ring chain
MSR bars
Lighting coil removed
Wiring harness stripped down
Tether kill switch

Mods to come:
SCP pipe/silencer (just to test it out. Think the PSI is gunna be better though)
Air box delete
PJ38 quad vent

I think that's about it,,,,,



And here's it with the nerfs but like I said, fitment issues

[SUPERBEAST]

you should send that to Dr. Q

[C.J]

you should send that to Dr. Q

I talk to Doc on the regular. He doesn't believe that it weighed in at 239 and I'll admit it's a LOT of weight cut off it. But I can dead lift it myself and I'm not the strongest person on the world by NO means. So I'll be taking it to my local dirt track and see if the owner will let me weigh it on the cheaters scale just to confirm the true weight.

He's not the biggest fan of my bike because I've done stuff with it that "shouldn't be done" but it works, I've made it safe as hell, and it WORKS! Biggest thing. But oh well. I built it to please myself, and it does that (sounds pretty creepy to be honest) and I'm happy with it.

Plus,, I'm more than willing to claim it's one of the nastiest stock stroke/stock sleeve 250's there is. My next two engine builds though are a 285 big bore and I'm halfway through building a zilla mill for a YFZ clipped hybrid

[SUPERBEAST]

Sounds like you have some cool stuff going on

How much does a stock quad racer 250 weigh? That sounds light

[C.J]

324# dry (no fuel, coolant, trans fluid)

[SUPERBEAST]

Holy yours is light compared to a stock machine

[DohcBikes]

So I'll be taking it to my local dirt track and see if the owner will let me weigh it on the cheaters scale just to confirm the true weight.

239.2 lbs is a pretty precise measurement, how did you weigh it last time?

At 324 dry, stock, you are saying that you took roughly 100 lbs. off the bike. How did you accomplish such a weight savings?

A stock 83-85 200x weighs 282 lbs. Hard to believe that a 4 wheeler with all those extra parts would weigh 40 lbs less than a small sport trike.

Interesting thread.

[C.J]

239.2 lbs is a pretty precise measurement, how did you weigh it last time?

At 324 dry, stock, you are saying that you took roughly 100 lbs. off the bike. How did you accomplish such a weight savings?

A stock 83-85 200x weighs 282 lbs. Hard to believe that a 4 wheeler with all those extra parts would weigh 40 lbs less than a small sport trike.

Interesting thread.

Stood it on it's grab bar and weighed it on a scale with a piece of board to disperse the weight evenly.

I checked the scale vs the last time I was in the hospital (about 2 weeks ago) and in the hospital I was at 147lbs and on this scale I am at 152lbs (after weighing today)

[ezmoney1979]

So the lighting coil and air box weighed a hundred pounds?

[DohcBikes]

Stood it on it's grab bar and weighed it on a scale with a piece of board to disperse the weight evenly.

I checked the scale vs the last time I was in the hospital (about 2 weeks ago) and in the hospital I was at 147lbs and on this scale I am at 152lbs (after weighing today)

Wow, that would mean this scale is reading heavy, if you are considering the hospital scale to be accurate. So that would also mean that this uber-quad would actually weigh LESS than 239 on the "accurate scale.

I'm gonna go to the closet and check, but I just don't think I have a pair of boots that high. If you could explain what mods it took to shed 100+ lbs on the bike then maybe the bowlshlt would be easier to walk through.....

Obviously your method is inaccurate. When you get it weighed on a good scale, take a picture of the reading. Otherwise a thread about how little it weighs, especially when claiming huge weight loss, is going attract skeptics.


Lets get a pic of the balancing act!!

[C.J]

So the lighting coil and air box weighed a hundred pounds?

Most have been the lighting coil,, air box is still on it for now LOL

There's a lot of stuff changed between stock and Heinz. The Zilla a-arms are lighter than the 250 arms, stock front shocks do weigh a bit more than aftermarket, stock rear hubs weigh about 3 pounds together so the YFZ-X rear hubs were a weight reduction,, rear rims/tires I can throw and catch with 2 fingers easily, the stock DID rims are kinda weighty. Dropping tire sizes helped with weight (especially when you consider the weight of the stock dunlap's vs Razr's), cut down fenders, removing fender supports (front and rear), the stock rear skid plate is all steel and the complete piece weighs about 5-6 pounds all together, cut down the front fenders (maybe about a pound removed there).

I know that's a LOT to claim but until I can prove myself wrong. LOL

For the time,, I suppose ignore the weight claim and just read the mod list and look at the pictures.
I'm gunna try and weigh it again soon for sure. Because if it IS 239 true. I'm probably gunna sheet myself.

[DohcBikes]

Most have been the lighting coil,, air box is still on it for now LOL

ahhh there we go lol....

For the time,, I suppose ignore the weight claim and just read the mod list and look at the pictures.

Will do. Looks good, and it does look fast.

Now don't let us down on that weight report! I think you'll be a bit disappointed but there's a really good reason as custom builders that we need to be honest with ourselves about what our projects weigh. It affects everything.

Claims are connected to reputation.

[C.J]

Now don't let us down on that weight report! I think you'll be a bit disappointed but there's a really good reason as custom builders that we need to be honest with ourselves about what our projects weigh. It affects everything.

Why would I ever be disappointed with my machine? I'll have no problem with it if I'm wrong and I'll just start cutting off bracket I don't need and don't plan on ever using again like air box tabs once it is gone, stock brake line stabilizer mount thing for the stock hard lines, the head stay mount in the frame literally weighs 6 pounds. Literally 6 pounds of steel that adds no structural support and is just a blob on the underside of the back bone that is not needed.

[DohcBikes]

If you have never been disappointed with your own machine then you are just loving it because its yours. I've owned dozens of disappointing bikes. Even built a couple. It comes with the territory. If you have not in your young career yet been disappointed by your own work, then keep trying.