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Thread: ATC 600X Build Specifics

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    ATC 600X Build Specifics

    Hi All,

    I am sure like others I need things spelled out for me. I would like to start a thread to help all the people (including myself) needing instructions and a parts list to build the monster 600x trike as well was make it as versatile as the stock 350x.

    It seems as the 83-84 atc 250r tripple trees are used and the threaded part of the xr600 tripple trees is pressed out and pressed in to the atc tripples. if that is so lets set that in stone and move on to the forks used.

    My thanks go out to any help.

    I have done a bunch of full restoz on 4 wheelers, 3 wheelers and dirtbikes as well as a few custom
    builds too.
    10 Buy it
    20 Beat it
    30 Break it <----- Sometimes this is the end of the routine
    40 Fix it
    50 Sell it
    60 Goto 10

    Current
    1985 @TC 350x, 1986 @TC 600x <---need to make a 250r into a 500r next.

    Past
    81 KLT 200 ,82 ATC 185S Restored, 84 Tri Moto 125,
    84 200es Big Red, 85 250es Big Red
    85 1/2 TRI-Z 250 Fully Restored 2nd place in competition @ Metrolina bike show March 2011
    85 350x, 86 350x
    86 250r Restored ,87 250es Big Red, 87 200x Restored

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    I used the 350x front forks on my build. It started out as a xr500, then last year i dropped in a xr600 motor. I was going for a 350x look a like. Rides and handles like a dream.
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    I started with a xr650 and with a Lil work on the triple of a 85 tecate it bolted it.but it have me a low center of gravity. I was ok with it because it wasturned into my street trike. Obtw there are allot better motors to start out with those xrs are kind of a dog just my .02
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    I am just using what I have laying around and adding very little to it. I may do the XR650 e start upgrade (old xl crank and newer XR cases) not too sure yet. I have a 1985 ATC 250r front end coming from a friend and I know the fork tube sizes are the same dia as the xr600's so I will use the 250r's bottoms and triples and the XR tubes I will spell out everything once I get er done.
    10 Buy it
    20 Beat it
    30 Break it <----- Sometimes this is the end of the routine
    40 Fix it
    50 Sell it
    60 Goto 10

    Current
    1985 @TC 350x, 1986 @TC 600x <---need to make a 250r into a 500r next.

    Past
    81 KLT 200 ,82 ATC 185S Restored, 84 Tri Moto 125,
    84 200es Big Red, 85 250es Big Red
    85 1/2 TRI-Z 250 Fully Restored 2nd place in competition @ Metrolina bike show March 2011
    85 350x, 86 350x
    86 250r Restored ,87 250es Big Red, 87 200x Restored

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    XR600 and atc 250r forks

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    Same Fork Seal Part Numbers

    Do you think I can put the 600r tubes on the 250r bottoms?
    10 Buy it
    20 Beat it
    30 Break it <----- Sometimes this is the end of the routine
    40 Fix it
    50 Sell it
    60 Goto 10

    Current
    1985 @TC 350x, 1986 @TC 600x <---need to make a 250r into a 500r next.

    Past
    81 KLT 200 ,82 ATC 185S Restored, 84 Tri Moto 125,
    84 200es Big Red, 85 250es Big Red
    85 1/2 TRI-Z 250 Fully Restored 2nd place in competition @ Metrolina bike show March 2011
    85 350x, 86 350x
    86 250r Restored ,87 250es Big Red, 87 200x Restored

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    just to be clear the 250r fork tubes I have are bent
    10 Buy it
    20 Beat it
    30 Break it <----- Sometimes this is the end of the routine
    40 Fix it
    50 Sell it
    60 Goto 10

    Current
    1985 @TC 350x, 1986 @TC 600x <---need to make a 250r into a 500r next.

    Past
    81 KLT 200 ,82 ATC 185S Restored, 84 Tri Moto 125,
    84 200es Big Red, 85 250es Big Red
    85 1/2 TRI-Z 250 Fully Restored 2nd place in competition @ Metrolina bike show March 2011
    85 350x, 86 350x
    86 250r Restored ,87 250es Big Red, 87 200x Restored

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    I would say no, but just from looking at the pictures the XR600 forks look to be 2-3mm's bigger than the 250R forks, so that would never work.
    Currently Own:
    1985 ATC 250sx
    1986 ATC 350x
    1986 Polaris Scrambler 250R/ES (P3)

    Projects/Parts machines:
    1980 ATC 185S

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    The Seal kit is the same part number so the dia is the same unless I'm missing something
    10 Buy it
    20 Beat it
    30 Break it <----- Sometimes this is the end of the routine
    40 Fix it
    50 Sell it
    60 Goto 10

    Current
    1985 @TC 350x, 1986 @TC 600x <---need to make a 250r into a 500r next.

    Past
    81 KLT 200 ,82 ATC 185S Restored, 84 Tri Moto 125,
    84 200es Big Red, 85 250es Big Red
    85 1/2 TRI-Z 250 Fully Restored 2nd place in competition @ Metrolina bike show March 2011
    85 350x, 86 350x
    86 250r Restored ,87 250es Big Red, 87 200x Restored

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    I must have missed something or bike bandit uses its parts numbers differently. The tubes were way bigger.
    10 Buy it
    20 Beat it
    30 Break it <----- Sometimes this is the end of the routine
    40 Fix it
    50 Sell it
    60 Goto 10

    Current
    1985 @TC 350x, 1986 @TC 600x <---need to make a 250r into a 500r next.

    Past
    81 KLT 200 ,82 ATC 185S Restored, 84 Tri Moto 125,
    84 200es Big Red, 85 250es Big Red
    85 1/2 TRI-Z 250 Fully Restored 2nd place in competition @ Metrolina bike show March 2011
    85 350x, 86 350x
    86 250r Restored ,87 250es Big Red, 87 200x Restored

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    I went and pressed the 1987 XR600r steering stem out of the tripples and pressed it in to the 250r tripples, now I will do the build while I look for an extra fork tube.

    To let everyone know the 250r stem and the 600 stem are the same diameter.
    10 Buy it
    20 Beat it
    30 Break it <----- Sometimes this is the end of the routine
    40 Fix it
    50 Sell it
    60 Goto 10

    Current
    1985 @TC 350x, 1986 @TC 600x <---need to make a 250r into a 500r next.

    Past
    81 KLT 200 ,82 ATC 185S Restored, 84 Tri Moto 125,
    84 200es Big Red, 85 250es Big Red
    85 1/2 TRI-Z 250 Fully Restored 2nd place in competition @ Metrolina bike show March 2011
    85 350x, 86 350x
    86 250r Restored ,87 250es Big Red, 87 200x Restored

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    Just bend the 250r tube back into position. I did this with a set of 85 R forks I am using on my 84 fooler project. I have also straightened 350x forks, 200x forks, yamaha 225dx forks, etc. The key is to fully disassemble the fork, so you have just the upper tube. Put it in a press, and push it on the high spot (bend). You want to press it past, as the fork will spring back. It always takes a couple tries, but dont use too much pressure, and it will turn out 100% better than what it was.
    THE 80's RAGE! Currently owns:
    81, 85 Yamaha Tri Moto 125
    83 Yamaha Tri Moto 200 x2
    82,83 Yamaha Tri Moto 175 project
    85 Yamaha Tri Z 250
    84 Kawasaki Tecate 250
    84 Honda ATC 70
    85 Honda ATC 350X
    84 Honda ATC 250R
    (2) 84 Honda ATC 200x
    82, 83 Honda ATC 185s
    81 ATC 200
    Lots of other parts and bikes

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    Cool Thanks Yamaha_Rules69

    I have built up the front end a bit, and now I'm looking to see what rear swing arm I can use.

    The 300ex swing arms are too wide for the 600r opening. Next.....................


    10 Buy it
    20 Beat it
    30 Break it <----- Sometimes this is the end of the routine
    40 Fix it
    50 Sell it
    60 Goto 10

    Current
    1985 @TC 350x, 1986 @TC 600x <---need to make a 250r into a 500r next.

    Past
    81 KLT 200 ,82 ATC 185S Restored, 84 Tri Moto 125,
    84 200es Big Red, 85 250es Big Red
    85 1/2 TRI-Z 250 Fully Restored 2nd place in competition @ Metrolina bike show March 2011
    85 350x, 86 350x
    86 250r Restored ,87 250es Big Red, 87 200x Restored

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    I wouldn't use a 300ex swinger on a XR frame, you'd be loosing the pro-link.

    My cousin in working on one using a 1998 XR650L. I usually not a big fan of electric start but at least is solves the problem of a rearward kicking dirt bike motor hitting the rear fender. He is using the 350X frame but cut the cradle out of the 650 frame and welded it in the 350X frame. That part is done and the engine is in.
    08 Outlaw 525s
    07 CRF70
    04 Harley FLHRCI
    04 TRX90
    03 XR650R
    03 400EX- XR650R engine
    02 XR100R

    01 Banshee
    00 XR50R
    00 XR70R

    99 PW50
    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
    95 Xplorer 400
    94 Indy XLT
    87 Trail Boss
    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
    82,79 XL500R

    83 ALT50
    79,78,77,77,76 XT/TT500
    76,75,74 XL70
    72,71,71,71 SL70

    72 Harley FX
    72,71,70,70,70,70,70 CT70H
    72 SL100
    70,69 Z50

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    08 Outlaw 525s
    07 CRF70
    04 Harley FLHRCI
    04 TRX90
    03 XR650R
    03 400EX- XR650R engine
    02 XR100R

    01 Banshee
    00 XR50R
    00 XR70R

    99 PW50
    99 JR50
    96,95 Sportsman 400
    95 Xplorer 400
    94 Indy XLT
    87 Trail Boss
    86,86,86,86,86 Scrambler

    86 TRX70 x2
    85 ATC350X
    85,84 ATC250R

    85 Red Tecate
    85 LT50 x2
    84 XR500R
    84,84,84,84,83,82,80,79 ATC70
    82,79 XL500R

    83 ALT50
    79,78,77,77,76 XT/TT500
    76,75,74 XL70
    72,71,71,71 SL70

    72 Harley FX
    72,71,70,70,70,70,70 CT70H
    72 SL100
    70,69 Z50

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    picked up a 350x +3 swing arm and a roller 200x this week. going to use the 200x front wheel and brake master. it came with 3 gold rims too. i wish i could use the axle but i need to have the adjustment at the rear not the engine cradle. does anyone know if a 200x axle fits in a 300ex carrier?
    10 Buy it
    20 Beat it
    30 Break it <----- Sometimes this is the end of the routine
    40 Fix it
    50 Sell it
    60 Goto 10

    Current
    1985 @TC 350x, 1986 @TC 600x <---need to make a 250r into a 500r next.

    Past
    81 KLT 200 ,82 ATC 185S Restored, 84 Tri Moto 125,
    84 200es Big Red, 85 250es Big Red
    85 1/2 TRI-Z 250 Fully Restored 2nd place in competition @ Metrolina bike show March 2011
    85 350x, 86 350x
    86 250r Restored ,87 250es Big Red, 87 200x Restored

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