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Thread: My 1984 Yamaha 200e "Yamahauler" Restoration

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    My 1984 Yamaha 200e "Yamahauler" Restoration

    Hello, 3wheelers. I am obviously new to this site, but I have been on previous Forum Sites before. My 3 Wheeler is a 1984 Yamaha 200e or "Yamahauler" as I learned from this site. I got this Yamaha from one of my parents' friends, he originally bought this Yamaha when it was Brand New, and now it's in bad shape. He has not ran it in 6-7 years from now and wants to finally part with it. Now, I am currently restoring this Yamaha and would like some assistance as I have never worked on 3 wheelers, or even bikes for that matter.

    Right now, the problem with the Yamaha is that we aren't able to start it up (I bought a new spark plug for it, and it still wouldn't fire up ) and we think it may be because we don't have a battery for it, or it could be the wiring malfunction, not 100% sure. We also need to get the first gear into the tranny, apparently the guy who previously owned this broke the first gear in the tranny, and has used the 2nd gear ever since. But right now, we just want to make sure the engine can start up first, and right now, the more problems we fix, the more problems we get (as it seems so far).

    Again I would like some assistance on this. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
    Last edited by Griff747; 04-25-2012 at 02:09 PM.

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    did you clean the carb must look rough after sitting for seven years, make sure the jets are clear, is it getting spark, and is the air filter and box clear of obstructions
    Trikes
    83' atc 110
    83' atc 200e
    84' atc 200m
    84' atc 200x
    85' atc 200x
    86' P3

    Non ATC
    2002 blaster sorry lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJMF1979 View Post
    did you clean the carb must look rough after sitting for seven years, make sure the jets are clear, is it getting spark, and is the air filter and box clear of obstructions
    Haven't cleaned the carberator yet, we did clean out the air filter and box. When you mean by spark, you mean the sparkplug getting a spark? No, we haven't been able to get a spark. Again, we think it may be because of the C.D.I. unit but we think it may be wiring problems? Again, not 100% sure.
    Last edited by Griff747; 04-19-2012 at 11:33 AM. Reason: forgot to add a question.

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    ok, for the record on these yamaha's, the battery only runs the electric starter. there are 5 things major to check for spark: grounds, switches, stator, coil and cdi. I would start with the switches, check the handlebar switch for major corrosion, and the key switch unplug it, to disable it's function. next search all your grounds for corrosion and pay special attention to the coil ground "the black cylinder that has the spark plug wire". download a manual here http://www.oscarmayer.net/atc/manuals/ and ohm test the coil. next check the stator for ohms, if the reading is way off it is more than likely bad. Finally buy a new cdi and try that. I am betting you will find your spark issue is in the switches or a ground somewhere. On a side not have you replaced the main fuse under the seat yet? It is a tubular fuse that will short out instead of burning up your wiring.

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    I still the original Manual for it, and I've been trying to gaze around each wires to see where they are located. Again, we got no battery for this yamaha at the moment, but we can charge her up and see if we can start her up.

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    An owners manual and the repair manual that I linked you too are completely different manuals, or do you have a repair manual? and to check for spark I recommend two people and using the pull start, my 225dx's electric start doesn't spin fast enough to get a good spark when it's cold so try the pull, and actually disconnect wires clean and inspect them then reconnect them for best results.
    Last edited by muthey; 04-18-2012 at 07:28 PM.

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    O.K. for one more time around. The only thing the battery does on your trike is engage and spin the electric starter. It doesn't turn on the lights, it doesn't create the spark, it only runs the electric starter and anything else you decide to connect to it. so no you don't need a battery to start the trike.

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    We got a problem, we've been trying to start it up. I looked in the Manual, in the Ignition Wire System in the Electrical Section, and it seems in order to get the ignition working, it needs to connect to the C.D.I. unit of the trike. I think the C.D.I. unit may be dead (or just not working). Or could be of the C.D.I. Magneto.
    Last edited by Griff747; 04-25-2012 at 01:52 PM.

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    Have fun restoring it! I had a chance to buy a yamahauler past it up because i wasnt a fun of yamaha's I should of got it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honda200sRider View Post
    Have fun restoring it! I had a chance to buy a yamahauler past it up because i wasnt a fun of yamaha's I should of got it!
    Thanks! Did that Yamaha have any problems on it? What year was it?

    And do you have any ideas on how to fix the problems on my Yamaha?

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    Here are some pics!
    As you can see here, no battery...




    Exhaust is in bad shape, needs a new one.

    My Trike(s):
    1984 Yamaha 200e "Yamahauler" - Got it totally for free, but needs major repair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muthey View Post
    An owners manual and the repair manual that I linked you too are completely different manuals, or do you have a repair manual?
    I happen to have the Factory Service Manual. Helps a LOT!

    Now, another topic to throw out: Which side of the engine would be easier to get into the tranny? Like I said before, we're missing the 1st gear inside, but luckily the fella who previously owned this bought the gear in 2002.
    My Trike(s):
    1984 Yamaha 200e "Yamahauler" - Got it totally for free, but needs major repair.

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    the clutch side is easier, but might be better if you just pull the whole motor and open it all up so you can check the cylinder and piston as well.
    rectum nothin damn near killed them
    feel free to leave feed back for me here. http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...06#post1119306

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    I just bought and am working on one of these. I have an 84 and an 85. I noticed in your pics the same deal with the right tire tearing up the muffler. Hey take a look for the safety sticker on the handle bars. The Japanese put a couple of funny mispellings that I noticed on both years of yamahaulers that I have. It has me wondering how many years it took before they realised it was fugged up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimoto200e View Post
    I just bought and am working on one of these. I have an 84 and an 85. I noticed in your pics the same deal with the right tire tearing up the muffler. Hey take a look for the safety sticker on the handle bars. The Japanese put a couple of funny mispellings that I noticed on both years of yamahaulers that I have. It has me wondering how many years it took before they realised it was fugged up.
    YES! I noticed those too, one of them was: "Do not use headlight for more than harf an hour..." I laughed sooo hard for a few minutes.
    My Trike(s):
    1984 Yamaha 200e "Yamahauler" - Got it totally for free, but needs major repair.

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