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Thread: 250SX rear brake upgrade,disc brake!!!!

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    What did that disc and caliper origionally belong to? I may try this on my 250ES.
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    the disc is from a yamaha kodiak 450 2009

    1986 ATC500X
    1985 ATC250SX
    1985 ATC200X
    1985 ATC250R
    1986 ATC250R
    1984 ATC250R
    1981 ATC70
    1984 ATC70
    1985 ATC70
    Custom built ATC70 / 250R laydwon swap
    1986 ATC250SX FATCAT

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    Any better pic ???

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    No for the moment,all picture I have are on the forum,for the moment my 250sx need a good clean up after a SERIOUS mud bath (over the rack).If I remove the wheel for any reason I will take better picture

    1986 ATC500X
    1985 ATC250SX
    1985 ATC200X
    1985 ATC250R
    1986 ATC250R
    1984 ATC250R
    1981 ATC70
    1984 ATC70
    1985 ATC70
    Custom built ATC70 / 250R laydwon swap
    1986 ATC250SX FATCAT

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    Cool, any chance you could put up some pictrues of the front disc setup?
    1974 Honda ATC 70
    1985 Honda ATC 250 ES Big Red
    1986 Honda ATC 250 ES Big Red
    2008 Honda Rancher 420
    1983 Hustler 945-HK 6x6 - Fire Breathing 627cc V-Twin Monster
    2010 Chevy Silverado 1500 4x4 LT
    1983 GMC K10 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2 Liter Diesel

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    I posted these pics on another thread (http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthr...28#post1060228), but here is a pic of the rear discs brakes my buddies and I all have.

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    We did a different design, than atc500x did, but similar in the end.

    Depending on interest, could sell some kind of kit!

    We went to the local atv salvage yard and just picked whatever we could find for disc brakes and levers on old 4 wheelers (prices vary on condition).
    Last edited by schneed; 10-20-2011 at 02:44 PM.
    My wheelers:

    current:
    '86 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - disc brakes, lifted, spaced and 27" Super Swamper TSL / Vampire (1.22" lugs) all-around
    '86 Honda ATC 250sx - Mud Bugs (1.19" lugs) in the rear
    '85 Honda ATC 250sx - not currently running
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - runs
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - runs

    previous:
    '85 Honda ATC 200s
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es

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    Why on the other side??? and hoo does it stop with the single piston caliper??

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    Outstanding Idea. I know it has been talked about several times in my group of 3 wheeling buddies to do this mod, but this is the first I've seen it. Way to think outside of the box. My issue was alway, how do I mount the disc to the axle. Your idea of back extending the hub for the mount is MINT!!!!! Kudos. I may have to do this on my rider 250ES. Again - Outstanding work / idea. You da man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by atctim View Post
    Outstanding Idea. I know it has been talked about several times in my group of 3 wheeling buddies to do this mod, but this is the first I've seen it. Way to think outside of the box. My issue was alway, how do I mount the disc to the axle. Your idea of back extending the hub for the mount is MINT!!!!! Kudos. I may have to do this on my rider 250ES. Again - Outstanding work / idea. You da man!
    If you're considering making the parts, Tim - if you make a coupla extra, I'll buy 'em!

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    Quote Originally Posted by big specht View Post
    Why on the other side??? and how does it stop with the single piston caliper??
    Well, I put the disc brake on the opposite side of the drum brake, b/c on my '86 BR, the drum brake is sealed around the axle and tough to just remove (unlike the '85 BRs).

    It seem to stop just fine with the single piston.

    Some said that they like the drum brakes better for mud, but we ride in as much mud and swamps as possible and the disc brakes are far superior to the drum. I would say that until you have tried both, you don't know what you are missing!
    My wheelers:

    current:
    '86 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - disc brakes, lifted, spaced and 27" Super Swamper TSL / Vampire (1.22" lugs) all-around
    '86 Honda ATC 250sx - Mud Bugs (1.19" lugs) in the rear
    '85 Honda ATC 250sx - not currently running
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - runs
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - runs

    previous:
    '85 Honda ATC 200s
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es

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    atc500x I need this set up so bad for my Big Red! Please find the time to build a few kits, I will pay top dollar for this setup!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondexbrute View Post
    atc500x I need this set up so bad for my Big Red! Please find the time to build a few kits, I will pay top dollar for this setup!
    Mondexbrute, I thought you sold your Big Red?
    My wheelers:

    current:
    '86 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - disc brakes, lifted, spaced and 27" Super Swamper TSL / Vampire (1.22" lugs) all-around
    '86 Honda ATC 250sx - Mud Bugs (1.19" lugs) in the rear
    '85 Honda ATC 250sx - not currently running
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - runs
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - runs

    previous:
    '85 Honda ATC 200s
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es

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    Who ever makes a kit will be able to sell them.

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    The problem is also a price
    example,if I bought all parts,used to built a kit,including price of shipping of these parts to my house + the labor at 30$ /hour on my working hour since it's my job,

    rear hub with disc 90$
    master cylinder + hose and caliper 150$
    used backplate 40$
    labor 8 @ 30$/hour 240$

    total 520$
    + shipping

    Now sure every body will buy a kit for 520$ + shipping.......

    Wasn't a problem for me,all parts was stock when I built it,but now all parts need to be ordered

    1986 ATC500X
    1985 ATC250SX
    1985 ATC200X
    1985 ATC250R
    1986 ATC250R
    1984 ATC250R
    1981 ATC70
    1984 ATC70
    1985 ATC70
    Custom built ATC70 / 250R laydwon swap
    1986 ATC250SX FATCAT

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    I agree with atc500x...the cost gets kinda high, but...

    I think we paid around $120 for caliper, disc, handle lever and reservoir and line off of any random atv we could find at the salvage yard.

    The other parts we used were laying around the shop:

    approx 4" dia pipe, 1/4" thick used to weld to the axle/hub that the disc was welded too
    random angle iron for custom brackets

    So maybe $150-200 parts and about 3-4 hours in labor, but most of that labor was installing, so labor hours wouldn't be high.

    Thing is, I doubt any of us what to go back the salvage yard anytime soon, as its not close and it's getting cold here in MN!

    Maybe next spring! Or I can put up some detailed photos of the build (post installation of course).
    My wheelers:

    current:
    '86 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - disc brakes, lifted, spaced and 27" Super Swamper TSL / Vampire (1.22" lugs) all-around
    '86 Honda ATC 250sx - Mud Bugs (1.19" lugs) in the rear
    '85 Honda ATC 250sx - not currently running
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - runs
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es - runs

    previous:
    '85 Honda ATC 200s
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es
    '85 Honda ATC Big Red 250es

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