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dcreel
05-09-2009, 03:17 PM
Help me figure out who makes these two 84-85 Tecate items. The pipe I bought off of ebay. I paid $50 for it. The pic from the auction was pretty bad and only one. Looking closely it looked like a cone welded pipe at least partially. I was right. The pipe is cone welded to the headpipe which is pinch welded. I don't know who made it, I was hoping you guys might. It was really rusty, but is cleaning up nicely. Pics:
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm012.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm013.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm011.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm014.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm008.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm007.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm009.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm010.jpg

This +2" swingarm came on the 1985 Flat track Tecate I bought a year ago. It looks a lot like the Westcoast on my 84 but it has a welded nut boss for a skid plate I guess. It also has 2 threaded parts on top and bottom for the chain rubber mount that the westcoast doesn't have. There are places where the green paint is missing that shows that it was originally painted gold. Someone told me it might be a Franks swingarm. Pics:
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm004.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm001.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm005.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm003.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm002.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipeandswingarm006.jpg
Thanks in advance for any information you have.
Doug

dirtface
05-09-2009, 03:23 PM
The pipe looks alot like the Bassani on mine. The swingarm looks alot like my Westcoast too, but mine doesn't have anywhere to mount the chain slider and mine also has a aluminum shock mount that bolts onto it that says Westcoast on it.

fabiodriven
05-09-2009, 03:38 PM
Yeah, looks just like a Bassani I bought.

scooterroo
05-09-2009, 04:26 PM
yep, bassani, looks just like mine.

dcreel
05-09-2009, 05:03 PM
For those of you that have a Bassani expansion chamber, how do you run it? Is it the natural with the wd-40 sprayed on it, or black, nickel or chrome? I'm thinking of chroming this one. Please show me pictures of what your Bassani looks like.

Thanks again guys,
Doug

250rulzes
05-09-2009, 05:55 PM
Not a Franks for sure, Maybe a Dura Blue?

the tecate kid
05-09-2009, 10:24 PM
Bassani and Durablue

DixiePlowboy
05-09-2009, 11:20 PM
I was told that my pipe was definitely a Bill's (could be wrong, though)by the previous owner(of over 10-years), but dcreel......my pipe is identical to yours.



Terrible pic before I cleaned it up........the spring hooks, cones, diameters appear the same to me.

dcreel
05-09-2009, 11:47 PM
The last Bill's Pipe I saw for sale had welded bosses for the stock pipes heat guard. But they do look the same.

DixiePlowboy
05-10-2009, 12:01 AM
dcreel, Another thing...... A Bassani's stinger has another bend in it, where yours and mine don't.

Scooteroo, a pic of your own NOS Bassani to compare shows the stinger isn't the same.

dcreel
05-10-2009, 12:28 AM
Dixie Plowboy, Does the pipe mount at the bend look the same? Does everyone with a Bassani have a bend in their stinger?

DixiePlowboy
05-10-2009, 12:39 AM
If you mean my pipe mount the same as yours, yes .....other than mine has been brazed back on at some point. I am positive you and I have the same brand pipe.....and mine's not a Bassani like scooteroo's or the ones on Jimmy White's machines in old pics.

HondaHarry
05-10-2009, 01:14 AM
roost factory maybe?? Mines been modded for a 500. :( but the headpipe is stamped and has the straight stinger?

After looking over the photos, im gonna say that both you and Dixieplowboy have RF Pipes. :) HH

dcreel
05-10-2009, 01:27 AM
It looks a lot like the Roost factory pipe as well.. Dang.. I wish they would have stamped their wares back in the day.

DixiePlowboy
05-10-2009, 01:28 AM
roost factory maybe?? Mines been modded for a 500. :( but the headpipe is stamped and has the straight stinger? HH

Cool. I had forgotten Roost Factory.

I was about to say that the pipe in your first pic looks different than the Roost Factory ad picture. Your first cone is longer and the angle is shallower. It's hard to count the section cones in the belly of either pipe in your pics.

Mine actually looks a bit like the Roost factory ad picture, but then again I have only five cone sections and it's hard to tell how many the ad pipe has. I can see a few similarities, but then several differences in mine and the RF.

Edited to add:
After a longer look, mine definitely looks different than the Roost factory ad pipe. Among the differences is the length of the last cone and the point at which the stinger joins the last cone. In the RF ad, the last cone continues over the frame tube and the stinger joins it in the airbox/pipe-clearance channel. On mine, the stinger joins the shorter last cone where it crosses the frame tube.

dcreel
05-10-2009, 01:40 AM
Here is a picture of mine mounted
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/tecatepipe001.jpg

DixiePlowboy
05-10-2009, 12:15 PM
I'm looking for pics and info on now two other possible brands that look close enough to be what we have, dcreel.

Possibles- Coffman's and White Brother's pipes are VERY similar.

dcreel
05-10-2009, 03:37 PM
I'm thinking I need to get together a collection of Tecate parts. Pipes, silencers, etc.

Tecate250
05-10-2009, 06:29 PM
What kind of hubs are on that axel? They look square in design.

DixiePlowboy
05-10-2009, 07:48 PM
What kind of hubs are on that axel? They look square in design.

Yeah, I meant to ask dcreel that too. I have a set of them, just don't know who made them.

dcreel
05-10-2009, 08:38 PM
I thought they were stock 85 rear hubs. All of my good wheels sets are 4/4 from my 84 so I have been using them. I just assumed they were 4/156 85 Tecate hubs. Do they not look like 85 hubs? The holes are wallowed out so the po welded a few. They ARE ugly thats for sure.
pics:
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/85hubs001.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/85hubs002.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/85hubs003.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/85hubs004.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w182/dcreel/85hubs005.jpg

dirtface
05-10-2009, 08:55 PM
Honestly, those don't look like 1984 or 1985 hubs. The 1984 hubs were round and the 1985 were kind of four spoke star shaped.

dcreel
05-10-2009, 09:02 PM
Hold the phone.. They are 4/4.. I have a set of 4/4 axle spacers I got with my 84. They fit the wheels that came with the 85. They aren't 84 hubs though, mine are round stock hubs for the 84.

HondaHarry
05-10-2009, 09:30 PM
I think those are KLT hubs. :) HH

dcreel
05-10-2009, 09:38 PM
I think those are KLT hubs. :) HH

I think you are right.. klt110, 160, 185, 200, and 250 were all 4/4

outtaline
05-10-2009, 09:44 PM
they are klt I have 3 in the yard 2 running the 110 smokes a 110 honda and its turning 25"trailpro

fabiodriven
05-10-2009, 10:55 PM
they are klt I have 3 in the yard 2 running the 110 smokes a 110 honda and its turning 25"trailpro

I have heard those KLT 110's do smoke the Honda 110's from many reliable sources.

It makes sense considering what happens when you line up a Tecate with a 250R.;)

Hoosier_Daddy
05-10-2009, 11:04 PM
Why does it seem like everone who has a bassani or other great aftermartket pipe bought it off ebay for $50? lol I have been looking for pipes like that on ebay for a couple years and have never seen one, let alone one selling for $50. How are you guys finding these? It baffles me.

dcreel
05-10-2009, 11:23 PM
Here is the picture from the ad:

http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!BP9dK6!BGk~$(KGrHgoH-CYEjlLlq68ZBJ2UKgVCnQ~~_1.JPG

The title for the ad was Kawasaki Tecate kxt250 pipe, I told my wife that nobody will think twice about the pipe with the bad picture and the bad title for the ad. I don't usually get good deals either.. It looks good on the trike though. I haven't ran it yet so I don't know how it compares to the DG