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stretch1970
05-02-2009, 04:38 AM
i was recently over at my father-in-laws house, and spotted a three wheeler just rotting away in some bushes. i remember those things from when i was a kid, and how much fun my friend and i had just about every weekend. anyway, long story short, i asked my father-in-law how long it had been sitting in the weather. heck, it had vines coming up from between the seat and tank. moss growing out of the footpegs, etc, you get the idea.... he said it had been sitting there for probably 10 years. i asked him if he wanted it running again, and he kinda looked at me with this look (yea right it'll never run again) and told me that if i could get it running again, i could have it. i said thank you, i will have it running in a few days. he just shook his head.
loading this thing up took some doing, as the rear brakes were locked solid with mud from being a ranch vehicle and traversing some really crappy mud years ago.
so, i get this bad boy home, and look at the tag on the frame. atc 200, year 1983. i remember just about killing myself on this same model, back in the day. hmmm.
first thing i did was remove the seat, both rear fenders, and the fuel tank. by the way, the gas tank lid was thoroughly glued on to the tank with age. lots of pblaster and some light tapping finally removed the lid. to my surprise, there was not much rust on the inside of the tank. anyway, i took a can of carb cleaner, the kind that removes varnish, 1500 bb's, and hours of shaking, off and on, to get her fairly clean and rust free. the air filter on this thing disintegrated damn near just by me looking at it. it literally crumbled to dust, leaving me with the metal tube to support the air cleaner. the oil still looked like oil, but i drained it and replaced it with new. didnt see any water in it. the carburetor was a different story. it had all the jets plugged, and there was probably 1/8 to 1/4 inch of varnish in the bowl. lots of soaking and scrubbing, and picking at the jets with fine needles, and i got it clean. i wanted to check and see if she still had fire, so i took the plug out and grounded it . sure enough, she still had fire. so far so good. turning back to the fuel tank, i discovered the petcock was rusted shut, and clogged to boot. i called the honda shop, and damn near choked when i heard their asking price for a petcock. i will be ordering from ebay, thank you much.

so the bike has fire at this point, the carb is clean clean clean, i have gas, and no patience for waiting on shipping of the petcock. i sacrificed a super small funnel i use for prospecting to get fuel into the carb. before i pulled the crank for the first time, i sat and took a deep breath, wondering if it would start. so, with one pull, and no choke on, this old honda atc 200 fired to life, idleing a little high. i adjusted the idle, and now it purrs until the carb runs out of gas.

im off to a running start with this bike i think, i just need to clean both brakes, front and rear, replace the brake cables, and get an air filter, then see if the tranny is working properly the old fashioned way.

on a side note, i was wondering if the motor for this 200 will fit into any atv frames without a lot of modifications? its just a thought, because to tell you the truth, i have rode threewheelers since the honda atc 90 first came out, but i have never rode an atv ever. i want to get one, but it would be sweet if i could make a project bike out of this threewheeler motor. any ideas, anyone? :wondering

harryredtrike
05-02-2009, 08:24 AM
wow cool story.your engine will fit 185,185s ,200,200s and 200x without any mods.may fit others but not sure so i wont say.:w00t:

firehart
05-02-2009, 10:02 AM
You got pictures? I have a 82 200 that I got for $50.00 because the rope was broke. Just start out slow and easy. They are alot of fun to putt around on.

oscarmayer
05-02-2009, 10:38 AM
sweet deal man! one option you have is to get 84 200s front forks and they have front shocks on them, so it iwll ride 10Xs better! everything else from yours will bolt on to them including your axle and brake system, so hit up ebay for a 84 200s front fork set and your done! front shockls nad ytou can have good fun w/o so much bounce!

sandpuppi101
05-03-2009, 08:58 AM
Kool story,if it's a '83 then it should have front suspension.Sound's like your gonna make a respectful machine out of the old girl.I bet you'll be pulling neck muscles looking for trike's in the weed's now,and behind barn's and wood's,etc...

stretch1970
05-14-2009, 01:04 AM
update.....

i installed the front brakes, the old ones are shot to hell. the pads and the shoes were seperated. but luckily no rust or anything. i just tore open the rear brakes, whole different ballgame there. one brake pad was literally glued to the rotor. the other pad was totally gone from the shoe. not to mention the mud and rust packed into the whole brake assembly. mostly rust. the bearings still look ok, just need grease. however, the brake cam was totally rusted in place. i had to work it back and forth with a big 18" crescent wrench to get it broke free, took me hours and a can of pblaster to get it out all the way, damn my arm is tired. i have the new brakes, an air filter on order, and a new petcock for the fuel tank on order. after further thought, i am keeping this thing a 3 wheeler, because i know how to ride one real well. four wheelers, just a 3wheeler with a spare up front. by the way, does anyone have any recommendations for a rust remover for these parts? if i could find my camera i would post pics of this. anyway, i am trying to get her going for a camping trip my dad and brothers are going on later this month. i will save the heavy restore for next winter, to give me something to do. just need to remove rust from inside the rear brake housing and surrounding parts, any suggestions? thank you ahead of time:twisted: :twisted:

ceaserthethird
05-14-2009, 02:53 AM
Evapor rust - Think AutoZone Sell's this !

MonroeMike
05-14-2009, 03:49 AM
^ What he said. http://www.evaporust.com/ They sell it by the gallon at Tractor Supply.

stretch1970
05-17-2009, 07:22 PM
finally got the rear brakes installed, bike seems to idle fine, but have a couple of problems. i bought a new pullstart rope, but the dang thing breaks in less than ten pulls. i am getting to be real good at replacing the rope, but im tired of doing it. any solutions? too bad i dont have the electric start.... second problem is that it seems to miss like mad after i give it gas. then after its ran for a minute or two, it has no power, and i have to give it lots of gas to keep it running. my guess is the floats on the carb. but its been about 20 years since i messed with a carb, and dont remember all of the intricacies of troubleshooting a carb. i/e lack of gas, too much gas, too lean, too rich, etc. the plug looks black when i pull it out. i plan on getting a new plug, but what else could cause it to miss, or run rough? i really want this old beast to fly, not going to resign it to the junkyard. are there other electrical type things that would cause it to run rough? and any ideas where i should start? but back to the first issue, that pull start is really pissing me off.... thank you and hope you guys can help me breathe new life into this beast.

The Goat
05-18-2009, 07:48 AM
Synthetic winch line, or true 550 paracord is what I've always suggested.

The first one is 4k test and honestly not that expensive. The second is even cheaper and is 550 test.

I'd say you gotta be feeling mighty strong to break either. Go with the synthetic winch line as it's about the right size.

MonroeMike
05-18-2009, 09:51 AM
Check to make sure there isn't a small burr inside the pullstart, where the cord goes through.

As for the carb, check out DC's post on cleaning.

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=23819

and Dammit's post on jetting.

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=55086