ATC 500R show off thread

[somekidwithanm4]

Here you go. One great machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N7moEmDSKk&feature=related

[Jason Hall]

That Is Kasey on his custom built 500R :cool:

[KASEY]

yep thats me!!! here is what it looks like not moving,,, which is very unusual .....:lol: :lol: :lol:
http://i3.tinypic.com/4h0uwjc.jpg

[Tri-Z 250]

I love you sand guys...and all those stretced out trikes. I guess I'm Dune envie.

[Thorpe]

That 500r just screams "EVIL"... I have displacement envy!

[krazykane]

kasey has alot of nice trikes

[200x Basket]

LOL. I need to get me some 10 paddles :)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/LuvNStarGazn/3wheeler/100_0564.jpg

[somekidwithanm4]

Sweet Bike!! Never heard of one before that's why i asked

[factoryX]

is it wierd to jump with that swinger?

[Saleenster]

Here is the motor that is in Richard's 500 powered trike.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4365/picture160gn3.jpg
and the bike
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/847/picture137xy6.jpg


I call Kasey "Mr Slo Pok".....:D

[somekidwithanm4]

Wow how much did it cost?

[Autophysn]

yeah, rub it in and twist why don't yah LOL!

[Autophysn]

Wow how much did it cost?

A grip and a ton of trial and error, but worth every penny ;)

[atctim]

there are numerous 500s on the board - ones that come to mind are Billy's
http://cosmicquads.com/mediac/400_0/media/left~500r~800.JPG

Louis Mielke's:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/500_v3/SD530151.jpg

Mine:
http://www.venustel.com/~tkeister/silver500-1.JPG

and let's not forget Raffa's YZ490 powered tri-Z
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=65248&d=1212366877

NOTE - these are all custom bike - custom built - non-production. this is why you have never heard of them before. It's a trike thing :)

[somekidwithanm4]

Nice! On the YZ watch out for that exaust

[aaron7]

Damn, those look factory almost!

[Billy Golightly]

I just realised, I dont think we have an actual "Show off your 500R" thread here. huh. Well heres a couple of mine, and Sykolincoln's that I've pretty much just finished building.

Mine (God, even I forget how sexy it is from time-to-time :lol:
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/500R%20Flat%20Tracker/P1010032.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s100/HondaATC/500R%20Flat%20Tracker/P1010024-1.jpg

Syko's borrowing my rear fenders (Pretty damn sexy now, will be :drool: when hes done dressing it up)
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck501.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/mytruck502.jpg

[1BFC]

The pipe on Syko's is just nasty! :twisted: Whenever I go the 500 route I'm going to use that same pipe... I love it.

[Louis Mielke]

Billy put some freakin paint on that poor girl and pretty her up some. You're so neglectful. Ride it hard and put it away wet. for shame. lol!

[the great gazoo]

Those are some slick looking rigs, but does anyone have a 500R with inverts? Hmmmm... Maybe....LOUIS MEILKE? Oh, and I got to ride it:D Lemme tell you Lou's rig is incredibly snappy, & handles really nice (nice for a 5 minute rip around the yard!!), the rear shock is a little stiff, but all in all, man that thing is a monster & will kill you if you're not careful! I'm kinda REALLY glad the ground was so soft & the rears weren't hooking up too well(this was in a large back yard) or I'd have been shot off the trike! LOL. Louis is all modest about what he's created, but I think it's pretty frikkin' cool...

[Louis Mielke]

The inverts are nice but its just another bike. I've still got plenty of gremlins to work out but I'm proud to say its come a long way.

1st build:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/000_0286.jpg

2nd build:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/SD530285.jpg

3rd build:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/SD530151.jpg

vs the current build:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/IMG00018-20100628-2144-1.jpg


It's come a long way but it's really starting to handle awesome! Definitely worth the long road.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/500r.jpg

[brapp]

hey lou can i ride it?

[The Goat]

don't you think you've wrecked enough! lol

[somekidwithanm4]

Nice rides guys. I might have one later. (eventually )

[Louis Mielke]

hey lou can i ride it?

Nah. I don't think so. I have enough trouble keeping it from shaking itself apart.

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Hey Kasey, just wondering if you've ran against any of the Tecate 500's and how well they hold up. Do you beat them , is a toss up or do they get the best of you? Just curiuos.

[Autophysn]

Yes, Please do start a Show off you ATC500r, Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, I would like to do something like Lou's ATCR500R

No offense guys, They are all totally awsome! I just like the idea of using the frame that was intentionaly built for the bike, and work from there.

Anyway, Who am I to talk, I don't have one, Yet!:naughty:

[somekidwithanm4]

Someone needs to make a custom frame and use that. Wouldn't be too easy but it'd work better.

[Louis Mielke]

Yes, Please do start a Show off you ATC500r, Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, I would like to do something like Lou's ATCR500R

No offense guys, They are all totally awsome! I just like the idea of using the frame that was intentionaly built for the bike, and work from there.

Anyway, Who am I to talk, I don't have one, Yet!:naughty:

Trust me it's just as much if not MORE work than using a atc250r frame. Billy's working on doing atc frame conversions. I would talk to him if you really want a 500r.

[Saleenster]

Hey Kasey, just wondering if you've ran against any of the Tecate 500's and how well they hold up. Do you beat them , is a toss up or do they get the best of you? Just curiuos.

To be frank, just a decent built puma motor will run away from a 500 powered trike. To this day, I have never seen a fast 500 powered trike/quad. They are a good and fun motor, but they are not a race motor....they dont rev. Dont waste your time on building one with the thought of beating everybody, cause you will be disappointed.

[Louis Mielke]

Yeah, the puma can be faster blah blah. Rev higher, blah blah blah.

That's all fine and dandy but there's a stigma about a 500. Trust me when I hear someone say CR500 I get shivers and goose bumps. Not so much when I hear or read about a "puma 250r".

Let's face it. The puma cylinder is awesome. Great design, makes more hp, revs out nice, blows by the guys on the 500s I'm sure. wooh hooh, extra hooh even.
I didn't build a 500 to beat everyone, nor do i like it cause "it revs to the moon"
I like it causes its got tractor like torque and a 500 engine can be had for a measely $800 bones ready to roll.

You've got to admit, the HP to $$ ratio is lucrative.

[200x Basket]

speed cost $$ and the puma cost more then my whole bike.


the 500 will roost 98% of the bikes and cost half the $$$

[Billy Golightly]

I hear this 250R based/CR500 arguement kinda often...I'm not convinced. The one year at TF, I think it was 06, or maybe it was 07? There was Cory and Andrea on their 370cc alcohol drag trikes. They were FREAKIN fast no doubt...BUT, my 500 (Well tuned though, I'll admit :D) ran right with them hand in hand and beat Andrea twice out of the 5 or 6 times we raced. Everything else was dead nuts close. Dollar for HP, I dont think you can go wrong with a 500 motor.

[leevarnado]

billy,tell us about the 500r conversion frames you working on.

[leevarnado]

what do you guys mean by puma engine.it that a high dollar 250r engine.

[Saleenster]

what do you guys mean by puma engine.it that a high dollar 250r engine.

CPI builds the Puma, along with the Cub and Saber's....

Anyways, I agree about pricing, hard to beat the 500 in that matter. A 431 puma cylinder that is plated goes for about $1300 with piston. This is not a ported or ready to roll cylinder by no means. However, tq ratings vs a 500 is very close. If you like the short thrill of a tq motor with 5 gears, then a 500 is for you. If you like the way your 250R runs up the RPM's, and keeps pulling and you have a little more money, look at the Puma. I would not recommand a saber unless you are an all out drag racer.

Whenever I race, more times then not, first thing out of their mouth is, "Is that a 500?"...so Louis I agree with you, there is quite a presiage feeling knowing you have 500cc's under your butt. I have raced a few 500 powered trikes, and a number of CR500's.....not even close. I love powered machines, and the 500R in a trike is a cool site.

Cory

[Saleenster]

here is a vid from 2 wkends ago. I am on the right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skkJXqeOHXw&feature=channel_page

[Billy Golightly]

billy,tell us about the 500r conversion frames you working on.


Check my sig, PM me any questions ya got :beer:

[Louis Mielke]

I hear this 250R based/CR500 arguement kinda often...I'm not convinced. The one year at TF, I think it was 06, or maybe it was 07? There was Cory and Andrea on their 370cc alcohol drag trikes. They were FREAKIN fast no doubt...BUT, my 500 (Well tuned though, I'll admit :D) ran right with them hand in hand and beat Andrea twice out of the 5 or 6 times we raced. Everything else was dead nuts close. Dollar for HP, I dont think you can go wrong with a 500 motor.


I do have to admit. It was freakin impressive what they where doing with only 370cc. It was definitely more than a run for the money.

[KASEY]

OK,,, ok,,, ok,,, i got the chance to ride cory blakesley's alky 370 when they came to gordons this year,,, it was a fast ride for sure... with all the traction even in the fine dry sand it was a handful to get out of the hole... it needed about 6 more inches on the swinger,,, if we would have lined up i think it would have been pretty close,, the difference in powerbands was like jumping on a 125 vs the 500,,, way more rpm's and alot less torque but when you start getting close to the cc's of a 500 with a 250r based motor what is the difference besides transmission? and why would a 250r based 500cc motor rev more?

[1BFC]

My take on the CR500 vs Modded 250R is the fact that the transmission on the 500 is NOT going to give you trouble. The 250R is having to cope with 2 - 3x the HP of the stock 250R. Sure, Honda typically has a high FS (Factor of Safety) but 100 to 200% stress loads over stock are not going to be good long term.

TQ vs HP the 500 comes out on top due to displacement. All this "it has TQ but no RPM" is nonsense. If you have TQ, gear it to use it. You don't need RPM to be fast. Let me talk to you about some 10 and 11 second diesel trucks these days that never see 3500 RPM....

The only drawback I see to the CR500 is getting the kicker sorted. Folks don't like having to mess with that and I believe there's a good initiative on this very forum to make the CR500 conversion a forward kick.

Combine Billy's excellent pre-made ATC500 frame service with the almost finished forward kick mod.... and man, why go any other route? You are done for life on the HP needs for all but the most serious of serious drag racers.

I bet Billy could have that forward kick as a frame option during build too...Just a thought for your there Bill... Prime'n ya for when it's my turn to order up a frame from you. :)

[Autophysn]

huh? I may be missing something, but isn't the CR500 conversion meant to be used with the whole engine/trans set up? CAll me a moron, but just asking.

Anyway, who had that sweet kickstart set up that return geared the kick start to make the 500 kick forward?

Side note, My interest in the 500 is because of my weight. I can care less about going fast. Yes, I know the first inclination is to go 4 stroke. But you can't beat the feel and sound of the 2 stroke. Talk about fun!

[200x Basket]

the kicker issue is easy.

i made a flip seat and kick backwards. i can start my bike without ever getting off. no trick expensive parts and no problems.

[NewfieBish]

i think that tri-z is insane! anywhere i can find a video of it runnin?

[3Razors]

If you are building a rider and long term distance/reliability are factors a 500 is the way to go with its beefier components in the bottom end which were designed to handle the kind of hp/tq a big bore motor puts out.

There is alot of potential in 500 motors for drag only use but you have to find the right builder to set you up which can be tough because not many know how to make a 500 run hard. And very few venture in that area because most riders are overwhelmed with stock 500 output anyway. The main hinderence is most off shelf aftermarket pipes are too small to extract maximum hp.

[Billy Golightly]

If you wanna make a CR 500 rev...put an ESR CR250 ignition system on it, and it will scare the bejesus out of you how high it goes, TRUST me.

[hondawasaki]

To be frank, just a decent built puma motor will run away from a 500 powered trike. To this day, I have never seen a fast 500 powered trike/quad. They are a good and fun motor, but they are not a race motor....they dont rev. Dont waste your time on building one with the thought of beating everybody, cause you will be disappointed.

Just because you haven't seen a million bucks, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[Louis Mielke]

It's really not worth the discussion. He will argue for the pumas all day long. That's fine, it's his thing. That's cool. Let's get back to pics of the 500rs!!!!!

[Saleenster]

You guys should get out to these neck of the woods where the Packard and Hybrid Engineering Honda's are built.

Louis, I have no agreement with any of this, nor do I wish too, as I have said, the "theory" of the 500 is what people want because of its number.

I have seen CR500 in a drag chasis with CR ignition. It was a 540+ alky buring machine...running 4.5's......that's not very fast:acr

[The Goat]

then the guy driving was a damned idiot...

blasters brake 4 seconds.

[3Razors]

As far as CR500 quads go Charlie Ohtons bike went 3.98 et.

[iceman atc]

Hey atctim can you show me some 350x monsters like that? I got some future plans but Im not sure exactly what I want to do yet. I just know I want to do a 350x based 4 stroke thumper!!!

[atctim]

Hey atctim can you show me some 350x monsters like that? I got some future plans but Im not sure exactly what I want to do yet. I just know I want to do a 350x based 4 stroke thumper!!!

You'll have to get with Jason Hall - he is the only one I know that has done a 350X based modern thumper trike.

[somekidwithanm4]

Yaeh i hope to get a 350x soon. but it may take a year or so

[somekidwithanm4]

lol i think this thread officially died for a bit

[The Goat]

If you wanna make a CR 500 rev...put an ESR CR250 ignition system on it, and it will scare the bejesus out of you how high it goes, TRUST me.

do other electric swaps work on different bikes?

meaning how much work would it be to use the much higher output 400ex stator cdi and electrical on a 350x motor?

[SYKO]

hey goatly it has been discussed.... shall I que you in on the function of the search button? eh?

[The Goat]

hey goatly it has been discussed.... shall I que you in on the function of the search button? eh?



you could cue me in on the location of a competent post.

The only thing i can find is from a few years ago someone swapped an aftermarket 400ex cdi.

I'm looking for the entire electrical swap from another bike.

Sorry for the post hijack.

I want a 500r.

[Louis Mielke]

pony up your bucks then. lol

[The Goat]

gotta finish one louis before I can dive into another

[somekidwithanm4]

Yeah lol. You dive into both and you start losing parts.

[RodKnockRacing]

i watched raffa a few years ago at the lawton drags that 490 screams

[somekidwithanm4]

Just from kaseys movie you can tell it screams

[FATTYFIVE]

Heres mine before I changed it. It is a 89 cr500,250r front end, Custom swinger, stock 500 linkless rear shock. Ridden primarily on alky at the drags. But , have taken it to Glamis, and Silverlake, for some sand blasting action.
http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/FATCAT500R/EEEEAY001.jpg
http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/FATCAT500R/EEEEAY006.jpg
http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/FATCAT500R/EEEEAY005.jpg
http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/FATCAT500R/EEEEAY004.jpg
Now it looks like this
http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt222/FATCAT500R/IMG_2357.jpg

[somekidwithanm4]

Dang nice man. How long does it take to build these?

[FATTYFIVE]

Mine took less than ONE day. Had all parts ready , Quick swap was all it took.

[somekidwithanm4]

Sweet. Don't you have to buy a conversion frame?

[FATTYFIVE]

NO, It is a 1989 CR500.

[somekidwithanm4]

Oh cool. fun. I might try that in a few years.

[jeffatc250r]

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq350/jeffsatc250r/DSC02348.jpg

[somekidwithanm4]

Nice Fatty pipe

[somekidwithanm4]

how fun are these to ride?

[Billy Golightly]

Sort of like riding a bull. The impracticality, makes it fun.

[somekidwithanm4]

Bet you could own any quad with these except maybe the polaris outlaw.

[factoryX]

uh no, this would own the polaris.....

[Dirtcrasher]

^ Great answer Billy :D :lol:

[outtaline]

Didn't you know thats were trailpro come from, that is what happens when a 500r eats a polaris.:lol:

[Louis Mielke]

I don't believe there's any stock quads that will touch a 500 in an all out drag race. I've never found one anyway. haha

[FATTYFIVE]

There are a LOT of highly modified qwads that wont touch a 500 in a drag!!

[FATTYFIVE]

I've smashed and trashed a few 727 Craptors

[somekidwithanm4]

I know. they just think because they've got the big bore dual pipe banshees that they can smoke a two stroke of half the size but they just can't. two strokes are the way to go for power.

[themikeoftrike]

those 500 s are so sick...anybody got a kit or plans?please school me on the inverted forks!! just totally sick!

[FATTYFIVE]

I have a complete bolt in rear end for a cr500. Pics and info in classifieds. IN Ohio. On page 5 under atc500 swinger.

[Billy Golightly]

I'm doing frame conversions using the 85-86 250R frames. Ebay link in my signature.

[somekidwithanm4]

Yep i saw that. Come on more....not unless there are no more

[SYKO]

Yep i saw that. Come on more....not unless there are no more



mine in progress


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1809.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/1810.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/southgacustoms/atv%20builds/000_35141.jpg





:twisted:

[Hurricane635]

Here are some pics of my CR500R, Its a Beast. O and a pic of my Honda Hurricane sand drag bike. If you want to see more go to http://s573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/Hurricane635/
Feel free to ask questions.

[cgarcia250r]

Hi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xvEgWlsx1I

[motoman1012002]

So im keeping my 85 r project and goin to build a 500r to ride next summer in the dunes

But ive got a line on a 91 or 88 cr500 complete which motor is goin to be the one to chose for the build

[Deathrocket]

I am still kicking myself for not picking up an air cooled 500r for $600 and it was in good shape....

[Louis Mielke]

EDIT: I've updated this post with links that are good for the pics, and bumped it for being a great thread.


The inverts are nice but its just another bike. I've still got plenty of gremlins to work out but I'm proud to say its come a long way.

1st build:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/000_0286.jpg

2nd build:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/SD530285.jpg

3rd build:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/SD530151.jpg

4rth build
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/IMG00018-20100628-2144-1.jpg


It's come a long way but it's really starting to handle awesome! Definitely worth the long road.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m254/louis_mielke/500r.jpg

[Cave Rider]

Still not finished,but damn close!!!146566146567

[jon jon]

^im not much on the all black and chrome look but you sir, have pulled it off quit well. love it