View Full Version : Could this be an 87 ATC 250R?? Picture inside!!
Darius1502
07-02-2003, 01:43 AM
Hey guys I saw a pic of this ATC 250R on ebay. The owner is selling the pipe I guess...it looks like an '87 250R....is there anyone here that can tell this is not an '87.
I will try emailing the guy the selling pipe...that seems like the easiest way to find out...but I would rather imagine for a little while that is COULD be an 87 R.
Here is the pic...can you see anything that would lead you to believe its not an 87R?
Kilborg
07-02-2003, 02:38 AM
Looks like your average everyday 85 or 86. My machine is the exact same except for it having a red swingarm.
Darius1502
07-02-2003, 04:25 AM
The 87 model looked just like the 86 and like the 85 with a few exceptions...(listed below). I am convinced that if you took the the front fender, radiator shrouds, fork boots, and rear fenders off of an 86 you could not tell (except from the id tag) whether it was an 86 or 87.
Its certainly not an '85 because that year the engine was painted black. In '86 Honda chose to paint the engine a silver color they labeled as 'dark silver shot'. As far as it being an 87 the only differences the 87 had were:
1. Only year to have White fenders
2. White Headlight Assembly
3. New Graphics on the rear fenders that say "R"
4. Reflector on towards the top of the front forks.
5. White Air scoops.
There is no indication from the picture that is is not an '87, but there is not indication from the picture that it is either!
ATC crazy
07-02-2003, 10:41 AM
Well....we will never know unless the owner mails a pic of the sticker proving that its an '87
skippy
07-02-2003, 10:47 AM
humm.. i know someone that can make 87 frame decals... what does it take to prove it that it is a true 87?
krizo88
07-02-2003, 10:52 AM
:rolleyes:
Billy Golightly
07-02-2003, 11:02 AM
Unlikely thats an 87, I say this because:
Maier makes white scoops and fenders
The stickers on the scoops do not match the design of stickers on the 87 ATC's picture
an 87 TRX motor is easily transfered into an ATC, or coated back to that color
However, it does have red fork boots (Easily gotten through the aftermatket)....but the thing that interestes me the most is it looks like the headlight assembly is WHITE from what I can see of it (very top right hand corner). Who knows, I guess its possible but I find it highly unlikely.
Maier offers 85 250R head light shells on their website for 40 bux. Including the color white.
And never rule out the magic of Captain Krylon!
I'd say 86 with white maier plastics and red aftermarket fork boots.
:-D
Billy Golightly
07-02-2003, 11:25 AM
Oh Maier is making headlight shells? I guess you learn something new everyday :)
whiteman350x
07-02-2003, 12:05 PM
Yes, Maier makes headlight shells. I just got all the body plastics from them , except the tank, to make a white 85 250r.
can you get a white tank from IMS or Clarke?
MR ATC
07-02-2003, 12:26 PM
only a oversize one. but i have seen severall stock size black ones on ebay. had i still had my 500R project it would have been black
ATC crazy
07-02-2003, 12:32 PM
http://members.aol.com/lanewwpc/shocker.gif Sorry guys....You must've misunderstood me. When I said stickers I meant VIN# stickers on the frame...that tells the year, date made, ect...
md1985250r
07-02-2003, 06:06 PM
WELL ONLY ONE THING IS FOR CERTAIN.......ITS NOT AN 87....
Darius1502
07-02-2003, 06:34 PM
Its not an 87...the owner just emailed me. Oh well...it was fun to think about it.
I also found out about ebay Canada....someone should check that thing once a week for anything related to an '87 ATC.
Peace
CHAINSAW
07-02-2003, 07:04 PM
yeah, sure. just to bad there was no such thing as an 87 R ATC.
hrc200x
07-02-2003, 10:31 PM
I'd like to add somthing. All trikes I've seen from Canada have reflectors, and the only '87 pic we've seen (from the French/canadian brochoure) had reflectors. I've never seen a '87 200x/bigred/250sx from the states with reflectors, so I'm sure the reflectors were a Canadian thing in all years.
md1985250r
07-03-2003, 04:15 AM
yeah, sure. just to bad there was no such thing as an 87 R ATC. CHAINSAW...ARE YOU AND I THE ONLY ONES THAT KNOW THIS???? ...LIKE I SAID ...ONE THING IS FOR CERTAIN...ITS NOT AN 87 BECAUSE HONDA NEVER MADE 1
CHAINSAW
07-03-2003, 10:33 AM
Ahhh let em dream.. lol I had once hoped to that they existed, but I think we all know the truth.. there were no production 87 atcs ever released. There might be 1 or 2 prototypes that are stashed somewhere, but even that is unlikly.
wanta250r
07-03-2003, 12:14 PM
What do you mean no production 87 atc's........ what about the 87 200x, 250sx, 125m, 250es. ?
md1985250r
07-03-2003, 04:08 PM
i think he meant no production 250r's :? that is what we are talking about isnt it? ;)
CHAINSAW
07-03-2003, 07:36 PM
yes, no production 250Rs.. now stop knit picking every damn thing I say :x
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