Exhaust question...

[MonkOFox]

The copper collar/washer that goes between the exhaust pipe and the manifold, does that thing crush or not? because i can't get the part that goes in the muffler far back enough so it will clamp down.

Thanks,

Justin

[Tri-Z 250]

this is for your 200s? is the inside clear of all obstructions(I'm sure it is). I always use some Hi Temp sealer...helps to act like lube, plus it seals.

[MonkOFox]

yes it is for a 200s, and the shoulder right before the little part that goes into the muffler slides in there, but just enough for the shoulder to fit in, should I just move the clamp back to cover those slots so it doesn't sound like someone is ride on the back with a chainsaw by my head?

Thanks,

Justin

[MonkOFox]

ill post some pics tonight or tommorow.

Justin

[SYKO]

one time long ago I replaced that copper ring in my old 200e, I couldnt get the exhaust to fit back on, I found out that there was one of the copper rings allready still in the head, it had been smashed and wore down so much I didnt notice it. After a bunch of fiddling I got it out, and it was in there. Thing was if I can remember right someone had put another one on top of it, so when that one fell out I thought everything was good. Long shot but check it for sure.

[MonkOFox]

will do.

Thanks man.

[SWIGIN]

one time long ago I replaced that copper ring in my old 200e, I couldnt get the exhaust to fit back on, I found out that there was one of the copper rings allready still in the head, it had been smashed and wore down so much I didnt notice it. After a bunch of fiddling I got it out, and it was in there. Thing was if I can remember right someone had put another one on top of it, so when that one fell out I thought everything was good. Long shot but check it for sure.

not much of a long shot as you might think

i'v seen 3 and 4 on top of each other....lol





as far as MonkOFoxs problem im haveing a hard time understanding what the problem is.

sounds like the silencer dont fit?.......am i close....lol

[SYKO]

OH FRAG! im way off base here arnt I? he means the silencer to headpipe right? I thought the headpipe to the head.

[SWIGIN]

OH FRAG! im way off base here arnt I? he means the silencer to headpipe right? I thought the headpipe to the head.

well, who knows...lol

im just guessing

[MonkOFox]

yea, the silencer I guess, all this fancy trike lingo...
I was just wondering if the collar between the manifold and the pipe would make
it stick out more so the other end of the pipe wouldn't fit in the silencer.

Ima take some pics real quick...

Justin

[MonkOFox]

the green arrow is where i have the leak, i tried to take the shield off, but the screw were being gay.

the blue is where the copper washer goes right? anyways when it is running i can feel it blowing exhaust out.

here is the pic:

http://www.newfazeindustries.com/DSCF1298-25pct.jpg

[MonkOFox]

BTW i know its ugly, but i got a sandblaster for christmas > : ).
so it'll all be cleaned up the day after lol. can i sand blast the engine whole or do i
need to take it apart so i dont mess up the gaskets...

Thanks,

Justin

[oscarmayer]

don't sandblast the motor itself unlesss your rebuilding it. jsut take it to the car wash (get 2 cans of degreaser from auto store and a scrub brush) and use the high pressure sprayer to clean it up.

[SWIGIN]

on bare motors i use wheel etcher...it like a mild acid and eats (foams) at the aluminim and it looks new when done.

heres a pic of some old 1970s wheels i etched for my bronco....they looked way worse then your motor before i etched them.
i spray on the etcher and use a small wire brush and srub away.

you can doit with the motor together since the etcher dont seem to hurt gaskets to much but it will hurt/stain paint. it might be a good idea to pull it out to do it.

as far as the pipe, yes, the blue arrow is where the copper/brass ring goes and that pipe is called a header or head pipe.

as far as the head pipe to silencer seal i have no idea since i cant see anything.

[cybrman]

I just bought some muffler gaskets from hyperparts.com.
I just went and looked and they don't have em listed anymore...weird.

Anyway here is another place you can get them...
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/Alba/Honda_OEM/HondaATV.asp

[MonkOFox]

Can i sand blast it if i plan on powder coating the parts? I'm definately going to sand blast the exhaust pipe,frame,wheels, muffler and tank, but I plan on powder coating those quickly.

Is the reason i shouldn't sand blast the motor because of rusting?

I just want to know if it is a definate 'no no' or just a personal preference...

Thanks for the advice,

Justin

[Dirtcrasher]

No, the reason is sand entering teenie tiny places and making there way into the oil lubrication system....

Just a few grits of sand will eat away at all the bearings and journals.

[MonkOFox]

Sweet, just wanted to know for sure, i'm rebuilding my '85 200s pretty soon, so ill just sand blast it while its apart. Do i have to remove the valve springs and such if i want to powder coat the cylinder head?

Thanks,

Justin