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WaimakRydah
08-18-2008, 04:55 AM
Ive been having issues with shifters lately and have gone through about 3 (one being stock other 2 being replacements) and was wondering if it would be wise to weld the stock shifter on to the shaft? Last trial ride I had to use a vice grip to get into 5th and i stayed in that gear for the whole ride. I even started it in gear.

clutchcargo
08-18-2008, 06:41 AM
I hate when people do that, but if you're gonna have to replace the shift shaft anyway, then it may be a good option.

Name Brand
08-18-2008, 10:57 AM
So the shifter lever is rotating on the shaft?

Line up the shifter to where it should beon the shaft, drill a hole through both and hammer in a roll pin. A snug cotter pin would probably work too.

smvorndran
08-18-2008, 12:02 PM
So the shifter lever is rotating on the shaft?

Line up the shifter to where it should beon the shaft, drill a hole through both and hammer in a roll pin. A snug cotter pin would probably work too.

I had a trike that had that done, and it was weaker than if it would have been welded. The shaft is already small, then a hole thru it makes it worse. Weld for now, get a shaft and gaskets on order for later. If you don't have a welder, this would work for a short time.

smvorndran

money89tractors
08-18-2008, 12:12 PM
The shifter on my junkyard 110 is welded on, only thing that sucks about it is they welded a VERy short shifter on it so you cant get your foot under it to shift. As long as you use the right shifter, its all good.

I suggest welding it on the very end (outside of the shifter) so you can easely grind the weld off when time comes to replace the shaft.

-Phil

hadar
08-18-2008, 12:35 PM
I would replace the shaft. Your just making more work for yourself or the next owner. Most of the welded shifters I've seen leak oil out of the seal because of the heat from welding. somebody did it to my one of my kxt motors and I had to cut the shaft with a hack saw. It took longer to do that then replacing the shaft. The best part about fixing it right is that you know that it's fixed right. My $0.02, but do what you want.

rdlsz24
08-18-2008, 12:40 PM
Is replacing the shaft a big job? I'm not a bottom end guy by any means.

Rob

cr480r
08-18-2008, 05:24 PM
Is replacing the shaft a big job? I'm not a bottom end guy by any means.

Rob

replacing the shifter shaft on most machines is a simple task.. dont be scared

SWIGIN
08-18-2008, 05:34 PM
take off the clutch cover and swap out the shaft......simple

no need to split the main cases

sandrion
08-18-2008, 05:43 PM
not wise to weld it because the shaft is machined and the shifter bar is cast...

get a bolt and nut and just tighten the thing down dont drill a hole if the shifter is anything like mine it fits onto the shaft and then tightens down via a bolt use an airplane bolt if you can get your hands on one because they dont shear off under pressure so just tighten the some *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* down and you shouldnt have any problems

sandrion
08-18-2008, 06:07 PM
like this the bolt in hole then tighten this is like my shifter idk wht yours is click picture you can see it a lot better

WaimakRydah
08-18-2008, 11:48 PM
Does a new shaft cost much? My mate has an LTZ400 and his shaft snapped and it was stuck in 2nd gear(it snapped inside the engine but it could have been a different shaft he was talking about) and it cost them $500 to get a new one installed

I want the stock one back on but cant find anywere that would sell the stock one and the grooves that connect the shifter to the shaft on mine are quite hammered .The shifters are starting to add up the other week it cost $58 for 2 new shifters (one for the 2 wheeler. One of which has now had its grooves stripped)

I could probably get another shifter to work on the shaft because it still has abit of its grooves left its the shifters grooves that have been suffering.

Yamatrike400
08-19-2008, 09:41 AM
Aren't you tightening it down or what? Ive Never had any shifter strip out with it properly tightened.

SWIGIN
08-19-2008, 09:50 AM
Aren't you tightening it down or what? Ive Never had any shifter strip out with it properly tightened.

+1

and your only shifting....dont try to stand on it or try to pull the front end up by pulling on the shifter...lol

Taiser
08-19-2008, 11:01 AM
Well sometimes they work loose and if you don't catch it, it strips the splines on the shaft, then if you want to keep using it w/o taking the shaft out, weld it. Who cares? If it starts to leak (shouldn't if your careful with the welder) then replace it. Not the best solution..but it works! :D

Name Brand
08-19-2008, 02:05 PM
I would replace the shaft. Your just making more work for yourself or the next owner. Most of the welded shifters I've seen leak oil out of the seal because of the heat from welding. somebody did it to my one of my kxt motors and I had to cut the shaft with a hack saw. It took longer to do that then replacing the shaft. The best part about fixing it right is that you know that it's fixed right. My $0.02, but do what you want.


Doh'! This is the correct answer!

Jonpin
08-19-2008, 02:45 PM
idk probly more work than its worth but you could try to put a key way on it tighten the $@$@#% out of it

Funny hearing all the things that make people peed off and wonder what was going through this guys head when he did this and it makes more work for you :)

WaimakRydah
08-20-2008, 05:50 AM
The shifter off my 2 wheeler works and shifts. Now im going to get it off and chop the end of it of and weld the new end to the original shaft. The 2 wheelers shifter wont clear the recoil starter unless i have it vertically which Ive had recently. My shaft could be better but as long as it works Im not bothered.