full suspension for my 185s!! (updated IT RUNS!!!!! vids and pics soon)

[trizilla]

thought i'd throw some pics of this up. wifey's gettin ready to go to work. i'll try to add a little story later tonite or tomorrow morning.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_2544.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_2545.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_2546.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_2547.jpg

[chris200x]

Now that's gonna be one neat little cruiser!

[trizilla]

oh man, your right.. gonna tweak the 185 with a 200cyl, cam, and some other secrets.. what ya think??? does it look all right so far?

[trizilla]

oooh yeah, almost forgot. another board member is hookin me up with some folding steel footpegs and a wider axle.

[chris200x]

Gonna be SCHWEET! :cool: will it be done in time for some flat trackin over brapps this winter? :naughty:

[edog]

What is up with that thing on the front of the upper forks?

[IrvSLedman]

I think that polished aluminum or w/e on the forks looks killer, Gives a sporty look.

[brapp]

man tri lookin good man makin me wanan build up a nasty lil hard tail

[trizilla]

thanks for the comments guys. i love to pull these old bikes from the weeds and bring em back to life. i have no before pics but it has certainly come a long way.
chris, my plan is to have it runable for pennsyltucky. i really need to find a seat though. i have most of what i need to finish other than a few engine internals.
thanks irvsled, the aluminium piece i made as a number plate. if also mounts the 200x front fender. it will be getting screened in the center and i'll be painting it red along with the fuel tank.
brapp, i cant wait to bring her down and run it on the track! it would be awesome if you found 1 to do up. these things are cheap and everywhere. so far i have less then $50.00 into it. when done i hope to have no more than $500.00 invested. what im lacking now is a seat, cam chain guides, cam chain, and some gaskets. i'll also be runnin a clamp on filter since it did not have an airbox when i got it.

[oscarmayer]

your project looks a lot like mine. complete ground up restore!

[trizilla]

wantin to update here. just got me 2 pipes off ebay. :w00t: a pk racing and a full dg. not sure what to use, any opinions?

[Vealmonkey]

That PK Racing pipe will be much better than the DG. DG is better than stock and cobra, but that PK pipe should rock. Did you find a stroker kit for it yet??? You need some suspension! I know fun budget build, but the suspension kits rock. Also, a nice 200x pipe is a real good mod for the 185s/200s series of tries. I do have a soft spot for supertrapp or bassani, but there were other brands that rocked too, just that they are few and far between. Curtiss Sparks, Hooker, White Brother, Kerker and your PK are just a couple of the Bigger names that made really nice pipes and there were several small places that made really trick custom pipes, but you rarely if ever find those and most of those places were out on the left coast.

[trizilla]

veal, i agree... the pk is the way to go. i'll just stash the dg for a future project. i bought both pipes for less than the cost of a new dg!!!! no stroker yet, but im thinking long rod... any ideas?

[sgp56]

Those rear tires look like street tires or something.

[trizilla]

sg? whatever? the rears are from an old school yami lawn mower. FREE from work!!!!!

[atctim]

WOW man - that looks awesome. Can't wait to see it done. I may know where I can get you a seat. I'll ask how much the guy wants for it. PM me for details.

Later.

[chris200x]

I hope it runs as well as that tri moto you had this year. Lookin forward to it already!

You should plan a trip down here in the next few weeks. the riding is great!

[trizilla]

im hopin it runs well too chris. i guess im gonna have to find a slightly better carb. i'd love to come down and ride but im not sure how soon i can get there.

[rdlsz24]

I have a timing chain and guides you can have if you still need them. Right now I have 2 complete 185s engines and a bottom end from another lol.

Rob

[brapp]

last weekend of the month is free for me man lets mee tup and then head down to hazelton and kidnapp chris and take himout ridin u up for it?

[scooterroo]

kinda reminds me of some of the oldschool flat trackers from back in the day. i like it.

[trizilla]

rdlsz, are they new?
brapp, unfortunatly i wont be riding for a while. got 5 units here for repairs and a crap load of O.T. at work making it tough to even get my lawn mowed. im definetly up for goin down sometime i just dont know when yet.
scooterroo, well flat tracker is kinda what im goin for. the wife and i are gettin ready to purchase a home (hopefully w/ some land) and my master plan is to make my own flat track, have around 5 trizilla built trikes, and invite fellow 3 wheeler junkies to my place for some friendly racing.

[rdlsz24]

rdlsz, are they new?

Nope not new. They are the originals but in good shape.

Rob

[trizilla]

:w00t: just won this http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=85983
:w00t: not sure if its going here or on the 110 i got coming next week. also got some 200x rear hubs coming and a gasket set. wont be long and this will be running.

[Vealmonkey]

Let me know when you are ready for rear suspension!

[trizilla]

well, im ready.. not to be pushy but, i think i am lookin for an aftermarket frame for a 110. know where i might locate 1 of them?

[Vealmonkey]

Not for a 110, cause I need one of those myself, but I can hook you up with a suspension 185s frame. I do have aftermarket frames for 90/110, but they are not suspension, just hardtail.

[trizilla]

ok man, pm me with the details.

[83ATC185S]

looking good, makes me want to tear my 185s to the frame and build it,. Keep us updated.

what kind of front tire is that? im looking for one similar for my 185

[trizilla]

i'll check on the tire for ya 83atc. i do know it was on my yami 225 when i got it. i've got my pipes in for it and am waiting on some other stuff right now.

[Vealmonkey]

Is this what you are looking for?

[trizilla]

yeah veal, thanks... i'll have some pics for you later this evening.

[trizilla]

here's those pics for ya vealmonkey.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_2643.jpg

[83ATC185S]

any updates on this little beast?

[trizilla]

i do have the motor back in. just a quick freshen. i also finished up the # plate. right now i have alot going on so this has got to go on the back burner for awhile. if i have a chance i'll put up a new pic.

[oscarmayer]

veal, you got suspension for a 185s/200s stuff? i' interested.

[diggerzmound]

Be very careful mentioning your wife in a topic named as this one is, she might make assumptions....

Cool project

[trizilla]

yesterday i picked up some new pieces and stated to assemble this morning. this bike is in its early stage. there's a long way to go.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_3762.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_3765.jpg

[edog]

Is it me or do those forks look bent inward?

[trizilla]

they do appear to be bent... there not though.

[trizilla]

here's another pic of the rear suspension kit
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_3764.jpg

[oscarmayer]

the machien sho[ i used to do the ehad work on both my 185 and 200 cc heads does the best jop I've ever seen. www.theoldone.com they do awesome work. CNC valve seat work, and CNC valve job.Some minor porting around the bottom of the seat area is all these head need as they already have larger than needed port sizes.

anyway, talk to them if you want that extra performance. they also can get web cams and springs and such. i think the charge like $165 for the base vavle job (you supply the top end kit) and then it goes up from there if you add parts. my head cost me about $550-$600 due to the web stage3 cam and springs and retainers+ hardened rockers needed as well, then their was the extra seat work i had done too. but she sure runs awesome and responds very well!

[Vealmonkey]

I'm liking it. You'll love it when you ride it. Where is that pretty new axle at?
It looks like that headlight guard will work with those triples too. A little paint and a little polishing and that should be one trick little old school trike. Now what will you be riding?

[83ATC185S]

Ohh i want that setup! nice!

[TravEX]

Looks good. That will be a nice comfy ride!

[trizilla]

the suspension is pretty soft. i'll know more on how it feels when its together and running.
i did some work to it today, had to remove the front seat mount from the old frame and install on the new one. i also installed a NOS NASA HD rear axle. the axle is from an 82 and i cant seem to get my 83 sprocket to slide on. vealmonkey you out there? need some help, will the 82 stlye sprocket work, is that what i need? i got a few pics of the work and will post them up later.

[trizilla]

well, ive made a little progress on this bike. its been tough since ive had no place to work on it until now. there's still a long way to go but i think its starting to look nice. what ya think?
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/101_6736.jpg

[edog]

I like it!!!!!!!!!

Think it mite look a little sportier with a 3rd gen R front fender and a 350X headlight on it?

[trizilla]

here's another shot of it naked.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/101_6714.jpg

[Nick_R_23]

Looks like a pretty jacked up 185!! How tall is it and what is the ground clearance compared to stock?

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[edog]

here's another shot of it naked.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/101_6714.jpg

Your getting me all excited!!!!

[motoman110]

Personaly I like the look of it with that big fender. I think it goes with the wide forks and wide front tire. Il agree a 3rd gen R fender looks good on almost everything but this machine just looks pretty tight the way it is.

[factoryX]

why not a 200x front forks and frame?

[trizilla]

Looks like a pretty jacked up 185!! How tall is it and what is the ground clearance compared to stock?

-Nick :TrikesOwn

its around 30 in seat height and about 9 in of ground clearence.

[trizilla]

Personaly I like the look of it with that big fender. I think it goes with the wide forks and wide front tire. Il agree a 3rd gen R fender looks good on almost everything but this machine just looks pretty tight the way it is.

i agree, the r fenders look good on alot of bikes but im really diggin the 110 front on this.:TrikesOwn

[trizilla]

why not a 200x front forks and frame?


an auto-x probably would have handled better for her but who doesnt have one.... how many suspended 185's have you seen?:Bounce :Bounce

[Nick_R_23]

its around 30 in seat height and about 9 in of ground clearence.

So the bike sits about 4-5" taller overall. I had a 185 that had a 83/84 250r front end on, I really liked the height but I wish the back couldve been taller to match it. I think this one would sit pretty close, I bet its gonna be a blast to ride!!

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[maggiesboy]

nice project!

[trizilla]

So the bike sits about 4-5" taller overall. I had a 185 that had a 83/84 250r front end on, I really liked the height but I wish the back couldve been taller to match it. I think this one would sit pretty close, I bet its gonna be a blast to ride!!

-Nick :TrikesOwn

the suspension is pretty soft right now. im gonna change the fork oil and go with a heavier weight in them. i also have another set of tripples that will eventually go on it. there's a pic of them earlier in the thread, they are aluminium and a lillte wider than the steel ones that are on it now.

[trizilla]

nice project!

thanks... were starting to get anxious to ride it.

[Blown 331]

why not a 200x front forks and frame?

I'd take a nice suspended 185s over two 83/85 200X's but that's just me. I don't care if a 200x handles and rides better, the suspended 185s is way cooler to me. If I want something that handles better I'll ride my 250R.

[SWIGIN]

looks neat man

does the shock come apart? if so i'd throw some 15wt in it, that would help

[Vealmonkey]

Eric, Why did you mount that front fender so high. There are mounts on the lower legs that the fender should be attached to. It's looking really good. Man, do I like the old school stuff. These were the trikes before the 200x and some even say the 200x was based on. I'm not sure if that is the original shock for that trike and I really wouldn't have any way to know. If you think the trike sits too high, see about a slightly shorter rear shock. Also the front fork tubes will slide up into those triples some. It really depends on what you want to do. But try mounting that fender on the tabs on the lower legs, it should look even better. And I'm not sure if any of my other suspension 185s have those tabs, so you have one up on me. I have to get some sheet aluminum now and make me a couple tabs. Looking good though. Do you think you can get those wheels cleaned up or are they for the 110? And if you notice, all the wheel halves have the hole drilled in them for the fill valves. You just have to run dual front air valves.

[trizilla]

pat, i've had the fender that came with it mounted in the plates. i like it better mounted up against the lower tree, but look closely at the pic, its held in place. if i dont use the plates i'll save them for ya. not sure about the shock but the swinger has some marks from the chain. right now i want to get it running then i'll start playing with the suspension. im not sure where im gonna use the wheels but probably the what ever gets the trees.

[leevarnado]

is there a kit to make a suspended 185.i have two 185's and a bunch of 200x parts,swingarm and shock,front forks,etc.could i use that to make a suspended 185.

[Vealmonkey]

There were kits at one time and they were very popular. Besides kits, there were entire aftermarket frames, some were even chromoly and very light and sturdy. But it is rare to find them nowadays. The one trizilla has he got from me and I have 1 other weld on suspension 185s that I'm going to cut loose. I have a bolt on suspension 185s, that is extremely rare that I'll never part with, or won't part with for quite a long time though. Good luck on finding a suspension 185s kit or already converted frame, which is what you usually find if you find one. A suspension 185s is not near as nice as a 200x, but it is tons cooler and how many do you see. About the only normal trike I own is a 350x. The next normal trike I have would be probably the 250 Tiger and then the 500 Tiger. Everything else I have is kitted and very uncommon to say the least. I like the odd stuff and have a tendency to buy the odd parts. The crazier, the better. I have some things on here 99.5% of the people have never seen. Call me crazy. I don't want what everyone else has. The 200x, the 250r, I remember when those came out and hit the dealership floors brand new. But those weren't the trikes alot of people had. I saw some crazy stuff on the east coast and it didn't even compare to what the west coasters had. I remember when the only trikes that ran were 90s and 110s, before the 185 and 250r even came out. That's the kind of stuff I like. If I could find a warehouse full of it, I would remortgage my house to get it! That's how crazy I am about the old stuff.

[trizilla]

vids and pics up soon. loading into photobucket shortly. i gotta tell ya, this thing is awesome. seems to handle well and it really rips. pat if your reading, thank man, i never thought it would be so much fun. the front suspension needs and oil change but so far everything seems good. we've run it for around 20 minutes or so and this thing is flat out sick!!!

[Vealmonkey]

I told you they are a blast. Before the 200x came out, these were the machines to have. And they don't intimidate alot of people since they don't have a clutch.

[trizilla]

here's a short run up the road.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/th_100_6837.jpg (http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/?action=view&current=100_6837.flv)

[trizilla]

well, i guess this is the one up the road.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/th_100_6836.jpg (http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/?action=view&current=100_6836.flv)

[trizilla]

here's another
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/th_100_6835.jpg (http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/?action=view&current=100_6835.flv)

[trizilla]

and a couple pics....
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_6854.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_6856.jpg

this is my wife on her first run. this bike is for her.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_6849.jpg

[Blown 331]

That is simply awsome. I need to get started on mine. I've got a suspended 200s frame and I am 90% done copying the kit to a 185s. For the 185s I have nice OE fenders and seat, plastic tank and I just have a 200x front end I'm going to use, that's all I've got. I am also thinking about trying to get a XL185 motor from my brother for mine, not sure yet. I don't have exhaust yet either, I love the look of the fat front tire on yours. Great job.

[Vealmonkey]

I haven't seen wendy riding it yet! LOL

[trizilla]

were pretty excited. must be a hundred pics of the first 20 minutes..
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_6853.jpg

[trizilla]

pat, wendy is in the pics with the pink on the coat. this was her first real time riding a trike and she looked like a natural. i was kinda a little selfish at first. ya cant blame me though, this thing is awesome.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/100_6847.jpg

[trizilla]

this is my lady riding it. kinda spotty and long but you can see it somewhat. thinkin werehttp://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/th_100_6838.jpg (http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/ericandwendy/?action=view&current=100_6838.flv) also stuck on the word awesome. enjoy!

[dirtface]

That is a pretty cool trike. How does it ride and handle compared to an early 200x? Good job!!!!!!!!!

[trizilla]

thaks for the compliments Doug... not really sure on the handling yet, the forks need some fresh oil in them. the rear seems to be alright and its not as wheelie friendly as a 200x. i did accidentaly get a little air under it but not enough to judge the characteristics.

[TriMotoMan]

wow that turned out awesome, definately the coolest 185 iv'e ever seen, u should get a head light for it from like a 200x, 250r, or a 350x.

[trizilla]

thanks tri-moto man... a headlight is in the works. i want to mix it up though and do a # plate/headlight. i have some ideas but it will take some time.

[TriMotoMan]

that'll look cool can't wait to see it

[Vealmonkey]

I can tell you that they don't compare to a 200x. Less travel in the suspension and the front end is a tad heavier. They aren't meant to replace the 200x. This is what was out before a 200x. When these first ran around, there was no 200x's and they are a big stretch better than a hard tail. The hardtail frames are a bit heavy, but... it doesn't get any cooler. People will look and wonder what the heck you are riding, because it looks like nothing that is around any moore. And alot of these ended up with aftermarket fiberglass fenders and wacky paint jobs. They were the hot rods of their time. Of course, it all changed when the 200x came out. And about the same time these were hitting places, companies were starting to come out with the suspension hybrids. You have to remember before these suspension kits, most everything was hardtail. Imagine a hardtial powered cb750 trike or hardtail rd350 powered trike or even a hardtail 2 stroke 750 triple trike! They were mostly dune shooters though. When the suspension trikes started hitting, well pretty much anyone could ride them anywhere. Even on the East Coast. And people started buying them up. I'm glad you and Wendy are enjoying the trike. I have the other one if you are interested. LOL I'll have to bring mine up.

[MO dx]

I just got done reading threw this thread and I got to say WOW that thing is kick butt cool.

[Vealmonkey]

Eric, here are the pics of the parts. Let me know. They are here for you.