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Twilight
06-13-2008, 07:32 PM
I finally got around to replacing my broken kickstart and after I got it all together I have realized it kicks over way too easily and wont start for me. I can get the compression up to 150, but it takes about 10 kicks to do so. I havent put the oil back in yet and was wondering if that could be why? Or could I have installed something wrong?

night4creeper
06-13-2008, 10:20 PM
i'd put oil in it 1st and then check your valve clearance. you could have a valve hanging open.

Twilight
06-14-2008, 12:43 AM
Before I did this though, it started within 2 kicks, how can taking the case apart mess up a valve?

Erics350x
06-14-2008, 12:54 AM
you have the decompression lever wrong

Twilight
06-14-2008, 01:02 AM
any idea on how its wrong? sorry but i followed the manual completely and ive done this like 4 times...

night4creeper
06-14-2008, 01:30 AM
dunno, how it happens, but I just built a 85 200x motor, and it did the same as what happened to you, on mine the intake valve was too tight, it had less than .002 clearance when is should have been .003 to .005. it's something worth checking...

hondahaulic
06-14-2008, 01:36 AM
I would put oil in it, that could make quite a difference.

i58829
06-14-2008, 08:34 AM
I agree, put oil in it before anything else. I personally wouldn't crank it over without oil, even if its cheap stuff just to see if its gonna fire you need something in there...

Erics350x
06-14-2008, 11:52 AM
oil isn't going to make a difference

Erics350x
06-14-2008, 11:55 AM
any idea on how its wrong? sorry but i followed the manual completely and ive done this like 4 times...

Then maybe its the first time you got the decompression right. Watch the lever as you kick it over. It should start off released, activate at about 1/4 kick, and release right after.
If you arent sure unhook the cable and see if it changes anything. Decompression is for wuss's anyway

lndy650
06-14-2008, 10:06 PM
^ i agree just eliminate the decompression cable its usless if you have a strong kick

Twilight
06-14-2008, 10:11 PM
haha I actually disconnected it just now and it started first kick! woohooo!!!

Bad news is I must have did the clutch wrong, because its not engaging =\ How much should I torque the springs down? I know not to bottom them out, so they are half way right now.

DeePa
06-14-2008, 10:17 PM
the clutch springs both have a really low torque value, like 7-10 foot pounds.

you didnt tighten them down all the way? How are they supposed to work if the bolts that go through the springs arent tight?

Twilight
06-14-2008, 10:19 PM
so... that means I do tighten them down all the way? I went by the manual just now and it says 2-3 turns in, but thats barely finger tight!

DeePa
06-14-2008, 10:24 PM
yeah, the springs need to be tight in order to hold the clutch plates tight against the steel plates...hopefully nothing rattled out and broke while you had them that loose

Twilight
06-14-2008, 10:30 PM
i just looked and thankfully nothing did! i will get it done later, haha i have a graduation party soon O_O