HREATV Tecate Swingarm Made With 400EX Axle Housing

[BigGreenMachine]

James Lundrigan wrote:

Hello, I am a member of www.3wheelerworldforums.com where I was recently pointed in your direction by another member.

I have seen your work and it is nothing short of impressive. The latest being a swingarm for a 200X trike that uses a 300EX axle housing. Looked great!

What I want is a +2' extended 1985 Kawasaki Tecate (pic attached) swingarm that uses a 400EX axle housing. I need it to use the stock style suspension mount and would like the material used to be chromoly steel. The lighter the better without compromising strength.

Wondering how much it would cost and what do you need from me in order to make the swingarm?

James ..aka, BigGreenMachine


i would say you are looking at about $475. plus shipping and that includes powder coat.
i would need a stock swing-arm with carrier,axle,and sprocket,( just to figure the offset form your carrier to the 400 carrier). a swing-arm with good bearing surface where it mounts to the frame would be perfect,(not oval,smashed,nice square ends)so i can get the correct width and bearing size.
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Thats the jist of what we can have. Someone needs to send a 1985 Tecate swingarm, carrier with good bearings, axle with sprocket, sprocket hub and disc hub with locknuts to HREATV. I do not have the swingarm to send but I do have the rest.

Anyone want one of these swingarms? I know I do. $400 for the swingarms if we order 3 or more.

I'll send the axle, sprocket and hubs...somebody needs to send a swinger.

James

[T3 LOPES]

I am going to be sending one very shortly. I talked with him 3 weeks ago about haveing one built in the round tubeing and with a few goodies added to it . 425.00$ raw finish. I can't wait.

[BigGreenMachine]

Lopes,

HREATV is making you one? What goodies? Length?

I'd be happy to order with you if it would bring down the price?

[Orangecnty250r]

Thats a fair price...I wouldnt try to bring it down. Its every bit worth the material and labor. I have been to his shop, chatted with him, seen his work and had him do work for me. He takes it very seriously. This type of work takes a lot of talent to do it right.....His craftsmanship in RAW fabrication is the best Ive seen

[tecat-z]

I spoke with him on the phone a few weeks back. He's a super nice guy and seems like a true craftsman. I had forgotten that he was the person who built a NEW atc 250r frame. Now that's awesome! And yeah $425 for a custom arm, very reasonable price for custom work done right.

[SWIGIN]

i went to school with mike (HRE owner) and rode with him for decades...lol

he even built my 350rx frame

[oldskool83]

i wouldnt try to bring the price down...be happy with that price...anyone else will charge you 2-3 times that...or not even touch the job.

[Bigbore]

[QUOTE=BigGreenMachine;588660Thats the jist of what we can have. Someone needs to send a 1985 Tecate swingarm, carrier with good bearings, axle with sprocket, sprocket hub and disc hub with locknuts to HREATV. I do not have the swingarm to send but I do have the rest.

Anyone want one of these swingarms? I know I do. $400 for the swingarms if we order 3 or more.

I'll send the axle, sprocket and hubs...somebody needs to send a swinger.

James[/QUOTE]

I'm in for one if it's made from square stock like the 200X swinger and not the round tubing. And I'd take it in the "white", not powder coated white!

I have a swinger I can send too.

[BigGreenMachine]

Ok. Good. Anyone else?

Lopes is sending his swinger and stuff in soon.

I will ask HREATV to make them +2 over stock with 400EX carrier, Banshee chain guide mount and Banshee chain slider for the front to replace the Tecate slider.

[Curtis-Tecate3]

BGM,

As a 2nd gen owner (86/87) I would like to suggest something. I do not have confirmation other than what I read on here before but from what I understand the 2nd generation swingarm will bolt straight on to the 1st gen (84/85) and would give you +2". I dont know if you need to use the Uni-Trak linkage from whichever model though? If that is the case, and again I don't know if it is, then I would assume the 1st gen would bolt on to a 2nd gen and give you -2". If this is the case I would recommend that HRE should jig up both +2" and +4" lengths which would provide the 86/87 an option of going +2" with being able to use current axles and the associated running gear.

Any confirmation of the interchangeability?

Curtis

[BigGreenMachine]

They do interchange with the exception of the dogbone mount. I had an 86 swinger on my 85.

As far as what HRE does that is up to them. I will order a swingarm, anyone that wishes to have one made as well should let me know. 85 owners only since all we have to go with is the 85 T3 swinger.

I WILL NOT BE ORDERING SWINGERS ON YOUR INTEREST ALONE. I WILL PAY MY COST AND YOU WILL PAY HREATV DIRECTLY IF YOU WANT ONE.

Not yelling, just making that point clear as I don't want to tell him to make 3 or 4 then get stuck with the large bill.

Also I would like to thank T3 Lopes for using his stuff to get this done, big thanks!

[SWIGIN]

BGM,

As a 2nd gen owner (86/87) I would like to suggest something. I do not have confirmation other than what I read on here before but from what I understand the 2nd generation swingarm will bolt straight on to the 1st gen (84/85) and would give you +2". I dont know if you need to use the Uni-Trak linkage from whichever model though? If that is the case, and again I don't know if it is, then I would assume the 1st gen would bolt on to a 2nd gen and give you -2". If this is the case I would recommend that HRE should jig up both +2" and +4" lengths which would provide the 86/87 an option of going +2" with being able to use current axles and the associated running gear.

Any confirmation of the interchangeability?

Curtis



dont worry...the way he builds jigs this wont be a problem

[BigGreenMachine]

All that would need to be done would be to find the location of the 86 dogbone mount. For that he would need an 86 swinger. Easy enough to do but I don't have the resources to send one in at this time. If someone else would like to then heck yeah! Giv'r! I expect a raw finished swingarm with the Banshee stuff added to be $425. I'm more then willing to spend that.

[deathman53]

I'm going up there on saturday, I'll bring a 85 t3 swingarm of mine up with me. I have 2 of them. For you guys that don't know, HRE is building me a atc250r/crf450r trike and an atc250r w/86 atc200x motor.

[BigGreenMachine]

All you'll need to bring is an 86 Deathman. That way he can get the dogbone mount measurements.

[deathman53]

I don't have an 86. If I had one I would bring it, I don't have a tecate anymore either, just parts from mine.

[Bigbore]

They do interchange with the exception of the dogbone mount. I had an 86 swinger on my 85.

As far as what HRE does that is up to them. I will order a swingarm, anyone that wishes to have one made as well should let me know. 85 owners only since all we have to go with is the 85 T3 swinger.

I WILL NOT BE ORDERING SWINGERS ON YOUR INTEREST ALONE. I WILL PAY MY COST AND YOU WILL PAY HREATV DIRECTLY IF YOU WANT ONE.

Not yelling, just making that point clear as I don't want to tell him to make 3 or 4 then get stuck with the large bill.

Also I would like to thank T3 Lopes for using his stuff to get this done, big thanks!

When are you sending your money? I'll send mine at the same time so HRE has the confidence that what he's making is already sold. I like the idea with the banshee slider and guide.

[BigGreenMachine]

That was T3 Lopes idea. He deserves all the thanks here, luck would have it I posted and he was way ahead of me with this.

I'll let you know when to order BigBore, cheers!

[2L84U]

I would like one of those swingarms myself.

[BigGreenMachine]

$425 for a +2 raw unpainted swingarm with 400EX style carrier and able to use Banshee guide and slider.

[3Razors]

That is a great deal for anyone interested in this. By going to the 400ex components you'll be getting much stronger equipment, more choices for axles, sprockets, ect, and best of all NOTHING DISCONTINUED!

[BigGreenMachine]

Back to the top for anyone who hasn't seen.

If all goes well these will be available for the 86/87 Tecate as well.

[Bigbore]

Are we ready to order?

[T3 LOPES]

I just talk to Mike and let him know the details on the arm he is building me. He did mention that some people were wanting swingarms built with the 400ex carrier. If you want that set up you will need to send him what ever it is he will need to make it right. Everything he wants for my build is on its way. Lopes

[DixiePlowboy]

I likes the whole idea here. Is he going to build jigs and make 'em as the orders come in?

My '86 may get one of these in +2" w/400EX carrier and all associated opitions, but it's outta my price range at the moment(although it's a good deal). If he offers them in a few months, I'll pick one up.

[Bigbore]

I just talk to Mike and let him know the details on the arm he is building me. He did mention that some people were wanting swingarms built with the 400ex carrier. If you want that set up you will need to send him what ever it is he will need to make it right. Everything he wants for my build is on its way. Lopes

How are you have your built?

[BigGreenMachine]

Round tubing with Tecate carrier setup.

[Bigbore]

Round tubing with Tecate carrier setup.

Round tubing?:wondering

I thought we were going with the more traditional rectangular tubing and an EX400 / TRX 450 bearing carrier. If it's round tubing it won't work for me. Let me know.

[BigGreenMachine]

Ours will be box style.

Mike needs an axle/sprocket and locknuts. Sending mine but it will take at least two weeks to reach him.

Anyone else want to order a swingarm with us?

[uktecate500]

im very interested in one for an 86 tecate, but it would need to be the plus 4,
can you confirm the entire spec. thank you

[BigGreenMachine]

Do not have the parts to make one for an 86 at this time. This is an 84/85 Tecate order only sorry.

[2L84U]

What is the update on the swingarms for the 85 t3s? Does anybody have one yet?

[Bigbore]

Sent in my money a month ago, should see something soon.

[Bigbore]

Some update info.....


I talked with Mike yesterday and he's sending out my swingarm today. It looks awesome! Mike really does EXCELLENT work!:w00t:

It'll be nice not scrounging for junk Tecate axles on e-bay looking for a nice one! This one is all 400 EX/450R parts. If you guys need a new swinger for a Tecate, WITH a 400EX carrier, this is the one!

Here's some photo's....


PS: Watch for the KX 500/3 Build soon

[scooterroo]

thats beautiful!!!!!

[johnny's X]

thats is a talented welder and builder

[BigGreenMachine]

Sexy! Gonna get my cheque book out for one of these.

[Hoosier_Daddy]

That is sweet!

[Finnster]

Can he do it for an 86' What is his contact info please:beer

[scooterroo]

hey bigbore whats the going price on these. hey james, havent seen you around lately, whats going on, where yah been hiding?

[Bigbore]

hey bigbore whats the going price on these. hey james, havent seen you around lately, whats going on, where yah been hiding?

I paid Mike $420 for the swinger plus $20 for the shipping. Mine is in the white, I think he charges a little more to have it powder coated.

A swinger for any current quad is going for $650 to $800, so I think it was worth every penny.

[BigGreenMachine]

Mine is paid since a couple weeks ago.

Hey Bigbore, thats the Banshee chain slider mount on the front right? All the sliders I've been looking at don't look like they would fit that mount?

[BigGreenMachine]

Oh and the 450R stuff is the same as the EX for the rearend?

[Bigbore]

Oh and the 450R stuff is the same as the EX for the rearend?

No. What Mike told me, the 400ex axle is a little wider at the bearing housing. So you'll need to use 400ex parts.

[BigGreenMachine]

What slider is on the front again Bigbore?

[Bigbore]

What slider is on the front again Bigbore?

400ex chain slider and banshee chain guide.

[BigGreenMachine]

Thank you. Ebay here I come.

[2L84U]

did anyone get the swingarm yet? if so how do you like it and are there any problems with it?

[SWIGIN]

i was at HRE the other day and he has someones t-3 swingarm sitting there...it looked done to me but i think he said there was a last minuit change or something.

but to answer your question, i have used HRE parts for years (like over a decade) and never had a big problem.

[Tecate 50]

I purchased a plus 5 inch swinger for my 85 Tecate from HRE-ATV. It mounts better then factory and looks awesome. I used the banshee rear guide and 400ex slider up front. NO PROBLEMS BOLTS DIRECTLY IN PLACE!! Thanks again Mike at HRE-ATV.

[honda250sx]

T50 lets see some pictures!

[Tecate 50]

There are some sneak peak shots posted about two weeks ago....under my Jemco pipe pictures!

[DixiePlowboy]

How does the 400EX stock axle compare to the stock Tecate axle with regards to width?

Just wondering if a +4" EX axle is +4" on a Tecate.

[3Razors]

400EX axle is wider than stock tecate. Not sure exactly how many inches though.

[BigGreenMachine]

That had to be my Tecate swingarm you saw SWIGIN. Its done and shipped now. Can't wait to get it! If it had the 400EX carrier housing it was mine.

[SWIGIN]

yup, thats the one, looked trick

i threw in my 2cents with the skid plate mounts...lol

[BigGreenMachine]

Wicked! Fill me in man?! They going to be strong?

[SWIGIN]

of course they'll be strong ...lol

we had to bend a curve in the one mount .....nothing crazy

[BigGreenMachine]

After looking it over, I totally agree. BEEF!!

Very impressed with this and for anyone that has doubts about buying one, forget it and pay the man!

[Meat-BoX]

Its real nice and exciting to see alot of sweet parts being made for the 3 wheelers again. Its so hard to find a decent rear end setup for the Tecate and this option sounds like its a very worth while setup for any serious Tecate owner. Along with all of the other options this setup gives you, I like that you can finally have a nice skidplate under your Tecate as all trikes should have. Any Tecate skid plate builders out there for my Cal-Fab?

[BigGreenMachine]

Well it showed up 2 weeks ago I think and I'm just getting around to loading up pics. :eek: :crazy:

I'm very pleased with it, couldn't ask for better fabrication work or cleaner welds. Thats putting it lightly, this thing is one bad mofo and will by far be the nicest part of my T3 build. :Bounce :beer

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[fabiodriven]

Wow, Big Green. That's real nice. I'ma hafta git me one of those.

[SWIGIN]

thats the one i helped on.....HRE was asking if you posted pics yet...lol

i'll have to tell him to come look.

[SYKO]

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[Dirtcrasher]

A work of beauty........ Next will be a TIG welder on my list :D

How does he bend that large round stock with such tight radius's?? It has to be tubing? but the bend is very tight.

Fantastic fabrication there. It makes me beat myself for not being all geared up, I know I can do so much more than I'm doing now.....

Regardless, that is one beautiful piece of fabrication there - this obviously isn't his first paper route :lol: :beer

[SWIGIN]

what bend are you talking about?

[DixiePlowboy]

Friggin sweet!

I'll definitely have to have one of those come Spring.

[Blown 331]

Very nice no doubt. But why not use something like a KFX rear to keep it all Kawasaki?

[250rulzes]

Can't wait to see it on the bike. Very nice work!

[honda250sx]

BGM ever get this mounted? I am beyond interested in having one made for an 86. What did you need to send him? Stock swinger and carrier? I don't think you can beat the price, nor the quality of workmanship.

[SWIGIN]

BGM ever get this mounted? I am beyond interested in having one made for an 86. What did you need to send him? Stock swinger and carrier? I don't think you can beat the price, nor the quality of workmanship.

you'll just have to call HRE and see if he already has a jig for whatever bike you have.

[OZQUAD44]

Did anyone ever take a picture of this mounted up? this thread just died.....

[nd4speed]

Looked great but probably way heavier than stock especially when you include the rear end stuff too...but still nice.

wonder if they will still make them?

[fabiodriven]

Big Green hasn't been on here much lately. I'll send him a message on Facebook.

[SWIGIN]

Looked great but probably way heavier than stock especially when you include the rear end stuff too...but still nice.

wonder if they will still make them?

Yes, HRE just made one for a guy on here. He is always makeing stuff like this.

[BigGreenMachine]

He should have a jig for it if anyone wanted one built.

Did anyone else that bought this swinger ever post pics?

The swinger has never been mounted simply because the T3 has been torn down for quite some time. Gathering parts for its 500cc come back and this swingarm will certainly get used.