View Full Version : "Project X" 87 200x restore is underway
brrcuda
12-03-2007, 04:11 PM
Well my newest project X is now underway. I did the complete teardown and had the legendary Honda swingarm bolt rusted solid. So a sawsall and hacksaw took care of that. Ohh, and a few hours of sweat.:D
I saved the 87 swinger and the bearing carrier is in great shape. Sent the frame to the PCers and got that back late last week. New maiers have also come in - best deal going is hyperparts for maiers by the way - i checked everywhere. Took 2 hours to fit them right since they dont come pre-drilled. They will look good with the stickers
Just received a nice condition 86 tank (not pictured) that just needs a fresh coat of paint and some oem 87 stickers.
This wont be a true OEM restore. If i could get my hands on some new honda plastics, i would go all out, but its going to be stock but with a few aftermarkets here and there. Since the 86 tecate restore, i have lost my energy in chasing after the million dollar "golden" parts.
New oem cam for engine and rockers with a new cylinder bore is on the list for the motor. I like the looks of the Cobra Aluminum exhaust and low pro tires on 10 inchers is all me.;)
I'll update as it happens.....................
BigReds Forever
12-03-2007, 04:56 PM
VERY nice start. Im doing a 86 right now, and im glad i snaged parts when i did, there getting harder and harder to find. That frame looks very nice. I wish there was a local powdercoater around here. Anyway, Good luck with the build, its lookin good.
RedRider_AK
12-03-2007, 05:07 PM
I have an almost complete 87 X if you ever need parts. I need to get rid of it as quick as possible.
brrcuda
12-03-2007, 05:41 PM
AK - i'll let you know what i need. If i had known last week - you would be sending me a few things already.
TwoHundredEx
12-03-2007, 05:45 PM
That's looking really good, the frame looks like it came out nice.
RedRider_AK
12-03-2007, 05:49 PM
Right on. Let me know within the week, I'm on a tight schedule.
the great gazoo
12-03-2007, 05:49 PM
I'm glad to see it found a good home-BTW I love that grab bar, it's ghetto fab! did you hack it off or leave it be for now?
brrcuda
12-03-2007, 05:56 PM
I lauped off the grab bar and grinded the frame smooth. Came out pretty good. I don't want to hear anymore remarks!!!!!!!!!:lol:
I can send it to anyone thats wants it for their restore..:w00t: Custom, one of a kind
Bryan Raffa
12-03-2007, 06:16 PM
I think one looking like this...on steroids...all white:naughty: Is you!
By the way what are thoes rear fenders on this X? see how they kick up in the back
BigReds Forever
12-03-2007, 06:31 PM
If you look at that pic close, i think thats just the grab bar that has some sort of red cover on it.
brrcuda
12-03-2007, 08:54 PM
Back in the day of trike racing - all racers had to wrap their grabbers with foam. That was one of the big rules then. Nice catch on that.
I used black pipe insulation and electrical tape for mine in '84. haha;)
super90
12-03-2007, 09:31 PM
It looks like in that pic the guy wheelied it without the grabbar. The plastics have that flap that bends down though. Could have just got bent up on accident. Is that a sparks exhaust I see?
Bryan Raffa
12-03-2007, 09:38 PM
another one for viewing pleasure...classic:p
I think thoes were fiber glass fenders on that other one.. the kick up in the back and round bottoms,,,
RedRider_AK
12-04-2007, 02:00 AM
Yeah that most definetely looks like a red foam cover for the grab bar.
brrcuda
12-04-2007, 06:19 AM
another one for viewing pleasure...classic:p
I think thoes were fiber glass fenders on that other one.. the kick up in the back and round bottoms,,,
Thats going to be me in that picture come this spring. Same :eek: face and all.:lol: That is a classic...
badasskfx
12-04-2007, 04:05 PM
i have that photo framed in an 8x11. to bad evrey time i hang it up the wife puts it bACK IN THE GARAGE
NINJA
12-04-2007, 05:54 PM
Looks like that project is coming along rather nicely. I'm glad you cut off that grab bar too. Did you get your swingarm pc'd too or are you doing that later? I love that photo of that 87 flying over the water!
Bryan Raffa
12-04-2007, 08:24 PM
Hey cuda .. what ya gonna do to the motor..powroll..sparks..?? nothing but the cam?
Remember what you said when we both walked out of that barn??:cool:
brrcuda
12-04-2007, 10:23 PM
Hey cuda .. what ya gonna do to the motor..powroll..sparks..?? nothing but the cam?
Remember what you said when we both walked out of that barn??:cool:
I probably said "I was going to own that someday" haha.
Thinking hi-comp piston and exhaust, thats really it. Nothing crazy - rather have a solid runner that looks sweet with just a little extra snot to it.
The swinger and motor mounts were all powdered red..
Bryan Raffa
12-04-2007, 10:34 PM
No.. you said.."forget about it..It's mine":lol:
brrcuda
12-04-2007, 10:39 PM
No.. you said.."forget about it..It's mine":lol:
hahaha. now thats classic........:lol:
Huffa
12-04-2007, 11:16 PM
Lookin really nice cuda, when your guy PC's parts, does he clear coat them as well ?
Is that your vette and what's the other one, a 300 Z ? :eek:
Twilight
12-05-2007, 01:56 AM
Hey Cuda, if you still need my cylinder and head, I will still give em to you. Depending on box, it can be from 8-11.00 for shipping =)
brrcuda
12-05-2007, 06:42 AM
Hey Cuda, if you still need my cylinder and head, I will still give em to you. Depending on box, it can be from 8-11.00 for shipping =)
Yes - I do want them. I will PM you my details and we figure how to get you some $$ for it. Thanks again...
Huffa - Yeah those are my cars. Thats my other passion. An 85 corvette and 91 Nissan 300zx - both with manual transmissions the way a sports car should be....
Twilight
12-15-2007, 07:20 PM
Sorry about being late, have been sick with a staff infection =\
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Brockey
12-15-2007, 07:30 PM
You have any pics of the ignition. I was looking thru the parts I have for my x and there is one in a bucket. I dont know if it belongs to an x or something totally different.
Dirtcrasher
12-15-2007, 08:02 PM
Hey cuda .. what ya gonna do to the motor..powroll..sparks..?? nothing but the cam?
Remember what you said when we both walked out of that barn??:cool:
I contacted CS and a couple other thumper guys, they had no interest in helping me or guiding me in porting etc. Stinks, just because there old no one wants to touch it. That 86/87 motor has a ton of potential and I guess we'll have to figure it out for ourselves.
NINJA seems to have had a great motor but I haven't got any details from him yet. Those bikes are light and handle great, I think with the right mods they can keep up with 250cc pingers.
I can't understand why these guys won't touch them? Although there outdated, they still know what needs to be done and were willing to pay them. It's probably like anything else, we'd have to find 10 guys willing to sendd them our cylinder heads to get a response from them.
Steve
brrcuda
12-16-2007, 09:01 AM
Hey twilight - oh man I picked up a nice set on ebay for pretty cheap. Thanks so much for the offer though and the pics. i didnt hear back from you and got impatient and snagged the parts when i could. Sorry about that.
glad your feeling better - its not that nasty staff infection going around the schools is it.
Twilight
12-16-2007, 04:17 PM
Its something close to it, the doctors also called it mersa or something. Its like infections that grow bubbles all over O_o
Sorry it took so long! Glad to hear you got parts tho, im still looking for a damn exhaust header...lol
brrcuda
12-16-2007, 06:32 PM
With the storm today, I got a lot done on the project X. Spent some time mocking up and cleaning up the parts. The bolt kit came in and, wire harness installed and tapped all the threads in the frame.
Tank is at the paint shop and i am debating buying a new honda seat or just recover this one.
All the bearings,collars, grommets,and other odds and ends are on the their way. So getting there.
Im thinking red powdered forks to match the frame instead of just silver. I think that will set this bike apart from the rest. Like all my restores, i like to put a few custom accents on it to make it "mine".
Dirtcrasher
12-16-2007, 07:05 PM
Hey CUDA, I covered mine myself for about 5$ in marine vinyl which is a near exact match to OEM. No lettering though, unless you make up a stencil. If you practiced I bet you could make a perfect stencil....
Here are some shots of my cover - no wrinkles or folds at all. Just takes a bit of patience and a hairdryer...
EDIT - if you wanna come down or I make my way up there, I can show ya how I cover them.
JO-ANNS fabric had this material, been running it for a year now and it's still perfect. Aside form STUPID me hitting a small spot with the pressure washer....Wicked Stupid....
brapp
12-16-2007, 07:32 PM
i will second it i have used alot fo marine vinyl its leik its the exact material they foctory uses and you have seen how wnic ea few of my seats turned out.
scrawny
12-17-2007, 12:39 AM
I think one looking like this...on steroids...all white:naughty: Is you!
By the way what are thoes rear fenders on this X? see how they kick up in the back
thats curtis sparks!! wonder where that is, there aint no ice in socal ;)
brrcuda
12-17-2007, 04:10 PM
Oh i forgot to mention. I am using a new/slightly used set of 350x fork boots on it instead of the standard ones for this model. I thought the 350x boots look more stout and give the illusion of larger forks - which it does. I bought them cheap from chris200x which are deepa's old parts from his 350- haha - funny how parts float around huh.
I think you guys have talked me into recovering this one. Nice work on the seat DC - and thanks for the offer but my sister is a excellent at doing anything with fabric and has done a few for me before. I know the one piece cuts are tough to get right and somewhere in my pile of tricks i have the "honda" stencil. This will save me $200 though.
I say in the springtime we hook up and do a ride down in southeastern mass. region - get all the MASS boys together for some trik'en. Snow is getting too deep up here on my trails.... Maybe the 87 X will be ready by then, if not my 350 or 250 are usually ready....
prestonroxu
12-17-2007, 04:18 PM
did you redo your back fenders ifso did you sand them and with what kinda paper and paint
brrcuda
12-17-2007, 04:35 PM
Mine are maier fenders - just purchased brand new. My old oem set are pretty dirty looking and have been painted before - so i will just use them for trail riding if i actually ride this one.
I think people use brillo pads and bleach for the white plastics - then sand with fine grain sandpaper and polish with plastic restorer products. I really dont know, since i usually buy new fenders for each of my trikes. I do use NOVUS #3 and #2 for plastic polish on all my plastics to freshen them up though.
brapp
12-17-2007, 04:55 PM
i may have to come up to yu neck of the woods sometime and ride.
Dirtcrasher
12-17-2007, 05:13 PM
Oh i forgot to mention. I am using a new/slightly used set of 350x fork boots on it instead of the standard ones for this model. I thought the 350x boots look more stout and give the illusion of larger forks - which it does. I bought them cheap from chris200x which are deepa's old parts from his 350- haha - funny how parts float around huh.
I think you guys have talked me into recovering this one. Nice work on the seat DC - and thanks for the offer but my sister is a excellent at doing anything with fabric and has done a few for me before. I know the one piece cuts are tough to get right and somewhere in my pile of tricks i have the "honda" stencil. This will save me $200 though.
I say in the springtime we hook up and do a ride down in southeastern mass. region - get all the MASS boys together for some trik'en. Snow is getting too deep up here on my trails.... Maybe the 87 X will be ready by then, if not my 350 or 250 are usually ready....
YES YES YES, and bring EDOG so I can shoot rocks at his arse, LOL!! I've got a whole house here all to me so you guys wanna spend a nite or something thats cool too. Gotta grab DEEPA while were at it :beer
YES YES YES, and bring EDOG so I can shoot rocks at his arse, LOL!! I've got a whole house here all to me so you guys wanna spend a nite or something thats cool too. Gotta grab DEEPA while were at it :beer
:lol: :lol: :lol: :cry: :( :mad: :rolleyes: :D :cool: :) :wondering :Where my meds at?:shiftyeyes:
Dirtcrasher
12-17-2007, 06:26 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :cry: :( :mad: :rolleyes: :D :cool: :) :wondering :Where my meds at?:shiftyeyes:
LOL!!!!!!!
It's all good, I love ya bro!! :lol: :beer :w00t:
brrcuda
12-23-2007, 07:35 PM
Finally got past a blocking point. Got the swinger and shock mounted on. The pivot bearing was so worn down that it was just a thin piece of the outer race left and could not tap it out. Thanks to SBLT500R for helping me get that piece out.:w00t:
All new swinger bearings installed, bushings and collars as well as a new swinger bolt.
Mounted the front wheel, forks and triples. Repainted top triple and polished the lower. Then I started to sand the forks to get ready for a nice polish. Front needs to come apart one more time to install new stem bearings and new fork seals - awaiting arrival.
Oh yeah - ordered a brand new seat from Service Honda and got a great price of $196. I am going to recover the old one pictured as a spare rider seat.
here's the latest pics. The tank in the pics are not the one I am using, its just for visualization - the show tank i have is at the paint shop getting painted.
It will be a roller soon.:)
longbedGTs
12-23-2007, 07:58 PM
Awesome progress! I cant wait to see the finished product! :beer:
Dirtcrasher
12-24-2007, 11:34 AM
Hey Cuda, she's looking nice!!
I can't believe they have the seat? I saw one grab 400$ on EBAY not too long ago. I'm gonna order up one myself and just put it away....
Let me know if it comes back discontinued, but, they usually email you the next day about whats gone....
Looking really sweet, I hope all us NE guys can start to band together next spring.....
DeePa
12-24-2007, 01:54 PM
nice motorcycle jack
bigpimpin
12-24-2007, 02:10 PM
where can I get one for $200.00?
DeePa
12-24-2007, 02:16 PM
service honda
Bryan Raffa
12-24-2007, 03:58 PM
wow man your kickin butt on that !! p.s that matching swinger looks mint!
chris200x
12-24-2007, 04:26 PM
I bet Brapp's gonna be sorry he let that go! Are they Mike's old 350x boots on there? or have you gotten them yet?
Edit: Opps... just read in the earlier post they are. Looks good!
brrcuda
12-24-2007, 06:51 PM
seat is processed and being shipped in 5 days. Thats the email i got from service honda. I splurged before they are gone....you should do the same. Mine will be mounted and plastic wrapped. haha:lol: Use the spare as the rider seat.
just got the tank back from the painter today - its unbelievable - clear coat is like glass. i'll get pics up soon. I also got the parts for the rear end to get it back on 3 again.
I am getting alittle crazy with this one.
thanks.:beer
DeePa
12-24-2007, 07:19 PM
which one havent you gotten crazy with?
youre half the reason i have a trike im not going to ride. freaking had to try to compete a little bit jesus
motoman110
12-24-2007, 07:22 PM
How much was the new seat?
brrcuda
12-24-2007, 07:40 PM
Deepa - yeah i thought the same thing after i posted that last response.:lol: My madness is contagious....
Moto - $196 plus shipping. Not bad at all.
brrcuda
12-26-2007, 07:46 PM
Well, the tank came in. Had it professionally painted with ppg and cleared. Now it makes my shrouds look alittle shabby.
Gotta pull the forks and rebuild seals next. Then pack the rear carrier and clean up axle and its a roller again. I get to use my new dremel to do some polishing.:)
havent figured out the tire situation yet. I think i will keep the frontmax for now. I have a set of ohtsu 20s, but those are worth $$ and are really for my 250r resto project. I do like 10 inch rims with some sort of flat 20s with aggressive tread - we'll see as i get back on the ground.
badasskfx
12-26-2007, 08:03 PM
looking good.... now put some studs on one of them because the ice is almost ready.
brapp
12-26-2007, 10:32 PM
man looks good and i am gogn to regret lettign it go.
NINJA
12-26-2007, 11:04 PM
Man I'm drooling, I got my 86's tank in the shop right now ready to be redone. Nice work man!
brrcuda
12-27-2007, 08:39 PM
The mystery of the "discontinued 87 seat" is solved. A nice surprise showed up at my doorstep today. Boy was i excited when i saw that big box with the honda logo on the side.:beer
I think it really steps up the restoration compared to recovering it. I plan on recovering the spare seat as well to have around if i get the itch to ride it.
Dirtcrasher
12-28-2007, 01:35 PM
Hey Cuda, do they have the 86 seat still? I though yours would say "ATC" on the side??
I'm still contemplating on buying a couple and just storing them....
Looking very nice!!
brrcuda
12-28-2007, 01:53 PM
86 seat is discontinued with the ATC logo on the side. This seat for the 87 is the replacement for the 86 part number. So for me it is/was perfect. You can always add the ATC with stencils if your daring.
If i were you, i would at least pick one up and stash it. It comes with a nice plastic cover that resembles a shower cap. I thought about doing it myself but have other things to purchase in priority.
The new seat has cleaned up the lines on this bike - especially now that it sits on the tank properly and not bent back like most used ones do.
Let me know what you do.
the great gazoo
12-28-2007, 04:35 PM
Wow Paul! that seat....I'm speechless! I can't believe you can still get 'em, AND at that price!
It really makes me want my '86 200X back. One day...............
Nice work on the '87, it's really looking great!
Lookin' really nice, man. I love the sight of a brand new OEM Honda seat. Beautiful!
brrcuda
12-30-2007, 08:16 PM
Well i got it on 2!!
I tore down the front forks and put new ball bearings in the stem. What a mess the forks turned out to be. I had sludge from them everywhere on the floor.
Found out i got a bent fork tube but it doesnt seem to effect the slide action.
Contacted the man Harlan for a complete sticker set. Soon i will be starting on the motor's topend.
Jim mac
12-30-2007, 08:47 PM
looking at your resto, makes me want to tear mine down. jim
brrcuda
12-31-2007, 12:08 PM
These are pictures for merge_88.
Let me know. I might regret it, but here it is.:lol: I will need a little cash for it though, since its my last one. PM me and we can discuss. Still has gas in it now - so needs to be dried out.
Picture with the red lines shows the issue with it - might be easy if you have the tools.
tri-Z ripper
12-31-2007, 12:11 PM
Nice Nice i admit my z is turning into a garage queen so looking for a 200X!
brrcuda
01-03-2008, 02:11 PM
The 200x is back on 3 again.
Forks were not fun at all. They are actually easy to do,just oil and sludge everywhere. Probably had the original oil in there i am sure of it. Filled up with 15 weight oil.
My new favorite tool in my lot is a 1.25 inch 5ft PVC pipe for driving the fork seals and bushings back in with no damage.. Shows you i dont have many tools.:lol:
Bryan Raffa
01-03-2008, 02:17 PM
PVC works great for that.. I cut one 6" and one a foot long and use it like a slide hammer on the fork tube .. its easer than holding on to the fork and a 5' piece of pipe..and you have better control over the fork..:)
dude you rock!! shes's pretty!
chris200x
01-03-2008, 02:25 PM
The 200x is back on 3 again.
Forks were not fun at all. They are actually easy to do,just oil and sludge everywhere. Probably had the original oil in there i am sure of it. Filled up with 15 weight oil.
My new favorite tool in my lot is a 1.25 inch 5ft PVC pipe for driving the fork seals and bushings back in with no damage.. Shows you i dont have many tools.:lol:
You see what your doing to Raffa? he just had to go get himself a 200x and fix it up.. :lol: :w00t:
I wouldn't mind having a little 200x project to fix up myself. :naughty: Or even build an autoX someday. Are you noticing that its harder to find parts for the later models than say the 83-85? You seem to be not having any problems finding stuff you need?
Looks real nice brrcuda !!!
87 has always been my favorite of the 200X's!!
Here is a quick pic of my friends 86 with a 1985 200X speedo kit that I sold him.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/edog_02/100_3214.jpg
brrcuda
01-03-2008, 03:07 PM
I havent mentioned yet that i have an 86 200x frame/swinger that I will be giving away for free soon. Free to anyone that really wants to build it. Its rough though but get a decent frame and swinger out of it to start. I wont ship it though. I also have a bunch of spare parts to go with it too. Might bring to PA if someone really wants it....
Parts for 86/87 - not too bad so far. The tank and shrouds are the golden pieces. All oem plastics are worth there weight in gold, but i am certainly not going to spend 5-800 on a set of rears - blahhh.
I lucked out a little cause it seems there were like (3) 86-87s being parted out just when i got this bike. SO i jumped in an snagged the tank, shrouds and airbox pieces through some direct deals around ebay.
The main issue with these that i have noticed is weeding out the junk parts that people think are nice.
Bryan Raffa
01-03-2008, 03:10 PM
will the 86 frame work with my 84?? I couldnt get that lucky...lol
I havent mentioned yet that i have an 86 200x frame/swinger that I will be giving away for free soon. Free to anyone that really wants to build it. Its rough though but get a decent frame and swinger out of it to start. I wont ship it though. I also have a bunch of spare parts to go with it too. Might bring to PA if someone really wants it....
Parts for 86/87 - not too bad so far. The tank and shrouds are the golden pieces. All oem plastics are worth there weight in gold, but i am certainly not going to spend 5-800 on a set of rears - blahhh.
I lucked out a little cause it seems there were like (3) 86-87s being parted out just when i got this bike. SO i jumped in an snagged the tank, shrouds and airbox pieces through some direct deals around ebay.
The main issue with these that i have noticed is weeding out the junk parts that people think are nice.
When can I come and get them?
Pics would be great!
Bryan Raffa
01-03-2008, 03:44 PM
When can I come and get them?
Pics would be great!
you can come get the 84 frame and swinger anytime:lol:
Dirtcrasher
01-03-2008, 07:43 PM
The 200x is back on 3 again.
Forks were not fun at all. They are actually easy to do,just oil and sludge everywhere. Probably had the original oil in there i am sure of it. Filled up with 15 weight oil.
My new favorite tool in my lot is a 1.25 inch 5ft PVC pipe for driving the fork seals and bushings back in with no damage.. Shows you i dont have many tools.:lol:
Got that right!! I hate taking forks apart. Last summer I finally bought one of those huge rubbermaid containers and I use that for the whole mess. Until then the 20 or so sets of forks I've done made a mess everywhere!! And that oil is NASTY!!
Looking really nice bud......
EDOG - I have always really liked your friends 86, it looks to be in super nice condition!! I can't imagine it's driven too often, it's just too nice and clean with no scratches etc etc......
brrcuda
01-04-2008, 08:18 AM
I need to post pics of this carcus before everyone gets jumpy on that freebie.
The clause is that you must build it, not resell it on ebay - i can do that. I have misplaced my camera right now, but i have a picture on my work laptop, so i can get it later. It needs alot of work. A few welds need to be cut off (minor) - peg, grabber mount and rear hubs - yes there is an axle too - dont know if its any good though. I have the tripples also- but stole the bearing races.
1st dibs is raffa - sell the 84 to build an 86 - I'll be in PA soon (where it originally came from:lol: )
2nd edog - if raffa doesnt want it, you gotta come south and go riding with us to get it - lets see how that 250r runs.
3rd hrc200x - shipping might be a pain for me - but i will see what else i have for you.
You need to look at the pics first guys - i knew i shouldnt have mentioned it.:lol: I will post a pic later - there is much to mention on this one. But to the right person could be a nice woods runner in the end.
i might have some used red shrouds for sale soon..
Bryan Raffa
01-04-2008, 08:47 AM
cuda you don't have to haul that up for me ..I'm gonna keep the 84:)
looks like edog has to get that pretty R muddy .....:lol: as I'm really anxious to see if the hondaline fender extension really works in the mud..:D
brapp
01-04-2008, 07:18 PM
lol
whoever gets thet frame realyl realyl has thie rwork cut out for them.
lol
whoever gets thet frame realyl realyl has thie rwork cut out for them.
How bad is it?
Bryan Raffa
01-06-2008, 01:00 PM
lol
whoever gets thet frame realyl realyl has thie rwork cut out for them.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
hey Cuda what did you use for red paint again? 88-89 trx pj1?
brrcuda
01-07-2008, 10:39 AM
The frame and swinger were PCed with the standard red at the shop. I usually go in and match the color off the wall pallete of colors. So I dont have any code or anything.
Stickers came in and look awesome - also drilled and mounted the front fender. Thats all i have had time to work on this weekend. Found my camera but now cant find the usb cable...
Next is the engine work. Need a couple snapped bolts removed from the head, a bore/hone and ofcourse gaskets. Last is brake rebuilds/paint and I can button this puppy up.....:cool:
Too bad i couldnt get this thing ready for brapps ride. I would let him let the pack on it. :beer I just cant get all the parts and work done in time.
Hope those calipers don't give you to hard of a time.
brapp
01-07-2008, 12:47 PM
hey cudda i ahev mos tof the gaskets for it . i ahve to find them and let ya know.
brrcuda
01-09-2008, 04:48 AM
Gotta give props to harlan - he set me up with an 87 decal kit minus the tank sticks. Waiting for a full set of honda tank stickers to come in next. I plan on painting the tank shrouds also to match the white on the tank.
I still need one more warning sticker for the rear fender - parrallel to the seat. I think it is a tire pressure warning like the 250r has...Anyone know for sure?
bp739
01-09-2008, 04:45 PM
Looks awesome :drool: :drool: ....thats gonna be my next build...87 200x...cant wait to start. Wish I was closer..I'd take that other frame and swingarm off your hands.
Jim mac
01-09-2008, 11:31 PM
could you tell us what a full set of stickers for the X costs? thanks jim
Jim mac
01-10-2008, 09:50 AM
on my X, the tire pressure warning is actually embossed into the fender. jim
brrcuda
01-10-2008, 04:25 PM
On my 87 original fenders that came on it - there are two embossed warnings -one on rear behind seat and one on the left side. Just next to the one on the side, is a black warning decal of somekind. I will look again, but I thought it was tire pressure decal like the Rs.
I cant make out any words to properly identify (small piece left). So i will get back to you on that.
All fender and frame stickers were 51 shipped to my house. The oem tank stickers which are 4 pieces were like 30. I think these 20 year old stickers from honda are junk and wish i went with Harlans - the old glue on the hondas are difficult to apply correctly. I thought they would be a better fit??????????????:beer
Jim mac
01-10-2008, 09:57 PM
that not bad at all for a set. my fenders are missing the stickers. jim
brrcuda
01-18-2008, 08:51 PM
Minor Updates - I got the oem tank stickers on - which were a total *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* to get right with the curvature of the tank.
Put my duros on the rear from my 250r. I really like that look - so it seems i will be buying another set of those for show. It needs to be wider though- so im looking for a set of axle extenders.
Finally picked up a nice head assembly. Oh and mounted up a new baja grab bar.
Next is the motor - got new rockers and sliders, new oem cam. Planning on a 10.25to1 piston kit and new clutch kit. Crank and rod seem tight so i will not be tearing down the bottom end on this one.
Im closing on this one - some big bills came in all at once this month, so things slowed down a little on this restore.
i58829
01-18-2008, 09:02 PM
Thats a crazy nice machine you're working on. Any chance its going to be ridden or just one that sits in the garage? Not that the garage is a bad thing all of mine just sit, i think thats what they are for anyway...
brrcuda
01-18-2008, 09:37 PM
If ridden - only in the snow. I have 3 trikes (big 3) that are show only and a nice 250r and 350x for beating on... So I am undecided on how this will be used. Prob not ridden though cause its an 87 - but its not perfect and never will be - who knows.
This will be my last addition to my collection of trikes. I feel i have built my ultimate collection for myself. Next is the mopar to complete and finish up my garage.
Chris- I got aftermarket DID wheels with this one from Brapp, so flat lugs work fine. Plan on putting 10inch DW wheels. On my old 85 200x i had to put grade 8 SAE bolts for my extenders too. I think originally the 87 X came with the inserts which need tapered lugs but idk for sure.
chris200x
01-18-2008, 09:41 PM
Lol.. I deleted my last post cause I didn't want to crap in your thread. but thanks for answering my question (If I did in fact ask one? lol). I think durablue has the proper hardware on their site. just not sure which ones to order.
the great gazoo
01-19-2008, 12:24 PM
Did someone say MOPAR? Whaddaya have?
brrcuda
01-19-2008, 05:26 PM
Did someone say MOPAR? Whaddaya have?
Its in my screen name;)
the great gazoo
01-20-2008, 11:15 AM
Oh, duh. What year is it, what motor, trans & rear? Have you posted up pics before?
200x350xtriz250
01-20-2008, 02:17 PM
here's a pic of a rear fender sticker...can't tell from the pic, but it is just tire info...I believe it is word for word what is molded in plastic next to it.
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brrcuda
01-21-2008, 01:37 PM
Thanks - yeah i knew there was some decal there. Harlan does not have that decal for reproduction and its discontinued from honda, so i might get that one created.
I guess the 86s did not have that decal?
Edit - Yeah Gazoo - 1974 Barracuda with '72 400 Big Block and 4 speed manual trans (mopar original pistol grip shifter). Right now its being welded but its at the mercy of my body man to get done. So it might be done in my lifetime. lol. Have all the parts including new dash board and interior to put it back together - just waiting on Rear quarters to be put on but floors are complete and new, now. Will be put back to Rally red with correct year side stripes.
I'll take ya for a ride when its done.
brapp
01-21-2008, 08:08 PM
oh yeah buddy got any pics?
brrcuda
03-16-2008, 07:28 PM
This project got side tracked, but it still underway.
Latest updates are that the bottom end has been painted with PJ1 satin black. Mounted it into the frame. degreased, cleaned and wire brushed the motor. I really am happy with the PJ's finish - looks pretty professional to me. After that, I put the SS bolts in for a nice dress up. Deepa showed me the way with the PJ1 paint..
Got a straight set of handlebars from my friend BRAPP - thanks again..
Snagged a New/Used axle lock nut set from ebay for cheap.
And lastly - new warning decal on the tank and helmet holder decal applied.
Rebuild Brakes, topend/piston kit and new exhaust system will finish this one up. Dont know how long it will take though. Slowly but surely.
DeePa
03-16-2008, 08:50 PM
wow, looks good all painted up.
finish that thing up
mike
brapp
03-17-2008, 10:52 AM
hey man i changed my mind i dont want the lakota anymore i want another 200x lmao but looks awesoem man lookin exactly liek what i was thinkign when i got it but the only diffrence is i didnt have the money to do it lmao. but cant wait to see it your gonna let me rid eit soemday righttttttttttt!!!!!!;) ;) ;) ;)
chris200x
03-19-2008, 03:01 PM
Umm,, I think I know a little someone who is intrested in that quad. LMAO!!!
Paul that X is turning out freakin schweet bro!!! I knew josh would regret lettin it go.
Bring it to Patuckey next year to rub it in....
brrcuda
03-19-2008, 03:15 PM
I dont know - it took me 2 months to get all the pink pennsyltucky mud off it.;) :lol:
It was cool to see the ol lakota running again in top shape, but i never missed it once.. This 200x reminds of my old 86 from when i was 16. Its way too small for me but i love the way it looks.
:TrikesOwn
the great gazoo
03-19-2008, 06:05 PM
Paul, that baby's looking nice! I really like the fork boots, those are OEM 350X's, right? I can't remember what the OEM 2nd Gen. 200X boots looked like.?
I'd also like to see your 'Cuda. I was a BIG Mopar man back in the day, I had a '68 dart GT w/ 318/4BBl, and a '74 Satellite w/ 383/4bbl, 727 & rear from my buddy's wrecked R/T charger('73?) & MAN, that thing would scream for a 383! Show us some pics of your Plymouth.........
chris200x
03-19-2008, 06:16 PM
mmmm... old mopars... :drool: :drool: :drool:
My old man had a dark grren 96 charger with a 440 6 pack... sold it before I got my license when I wae 16. prolly better off cause I woulda wrapped that *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* around a pole somewhere.. LMAO
My riding buddy in town has a swinger with a 383 in it. he hits the gas your piined to the seat....
AHHHH GOOD TIMES!!!
I guess this is a whole other thread tho...
Bring that vette down paul... we'll go out and pick up the ho's... :lol: :welcome: :lol:
sorry for the "brapp" typin.. but the bloody mary'ss are kicxkin in.. :w00t:
DeePa
03-19-2008, 06:17 PM
gonna post up for sale ad's again?
brrcuda
03-19-2008, 06:34 PM
gonna post up for sale ad's again?
Why, what do you want? I got some nice tri-z parts for you...
The plymouth is in western mass waiting for its quarter panels. I need to look on my spare HD for the pictures. I dont have too many of them.. check back soon. Last i saw of it, it was sandblasted and new floors installed.
Here is a teaser - my 4 speed piston grip shifter just happens to be sitting by my computer.:lol:
DeePa
03-19-2008, 06:37 PM
that comment was to chris.
why is it by your computer????
brrcuda
03-19-2008, 06:38 PM
that comment was to chris.
why is it by your computer????
I can dream drive...cant I...:lol:
chris200x
03-19-2008, 06:56 PM
LMAO!!.. I really nnedd to stay way from the puter when I'm boozin.:rolleyes:
I'm still into the whore HO Idea tho....
You guys are too much.. too bad we dont live closer togther... We'd have a hoot!
brrcuda
03-19-2008, 07:09 PM
LMAO!!.. I really nnedd to stay way from the puter when I'm boozin.:rolleyes:
I'm still into the whore HO Idea tho....
You guys are too much.. too bad we dont live closer togther... We'd have a hoot!
Corvette doesnt have a trailor hitch for the trikes though.... Talk about 80s retro chris - atari dashboard graphics and everything - cruise in style in that vette, put some rick springfield in the cd player - 4 speed stick shift - take ya back 20 years - haha.
adambrown792
08-22-2008, 02:09 PM
Hey ak I need some parts For my 87 If you have them pm me.
Brake res. front and rear
calipers front and rear
kickstarter
after market exhaust
brrcuda
09-10-2008, 02:18 PM
Started to look back into this project 200x this week. Trying to assess whats needed to finish it up. So decided to take a peek at the clutch plates. First opened up - I was excited cause it was so clean and nothing worn that i could tell. Clutch plates looked great and basket has no grooves whatsoever.
Oh well, took the oil filter cover off to find this - nut for the crank is welded on and looks to have had the old nut drilled off......:mad:
well its staying the way it is since clutch is nice and new. But i am worried about the timing and oil pump chains. everything seems tight from what i can tell,but who knows...
It has a DID branded timing chain on it now - does anyone know if that is oem? I dont think so????
Starting to look at it more of as a rider than show bike now that i see this........
userj8670
09-10-2008, 03:50 PM
She sure is pretty! How many hours and dollars would you say are in her if you dont mind me asking. Also could you post a pic of the dash, i always wondered how they looked in comparison to the SX.
Great work!:beer
Jim
200x newby
09-10-2008, 04:56 PM
that is the reason you make it a show bike! you cant see the inside of the motor so why not?
The 85 oil pump body looks the same as the 86.
Dirtcrasher
09-10-2008, 05:45 PM
Paul, those cranks SUK!! I have a bunch of cranks and every one of them has bad threads. Why you ask?? Because stupid people REFUSE to read ahead of time and that crank is LH threads and a very fine pitch at that! It's lovely that Honda abandoned the stupid 4 prong nuts of the 85 and under 200X and many of the XR's but they just had to go ahead and make it LH thread which seems to baffle most of society :lol:
I threw a new pump in my 86 just to be safe, it was 40$ brandy new. I can check on the DID chain for you but I'll tell ya that ALL the chains run loose and I'm surprised that there is no chain tensioner, but it seems to work. The only thing that keeps that plate in check is the plate that goes over it. I hope yours isn't missing....
DeePa
09-10-2008, 06:50 PM
who did you buy that trike from???
brrcuda
09-10-2008, 06:51 PM
The person did the same thing to the clutch basket nut as well - but did not weld it - just ruined the threads with a drill it looks like. Is that LH thread also? You can see in pic.
I gotta re-download the 86 200x manual since i restored my comp...
The oil pump chain is blue and timing chain is gold - i think the TC might have been changed......but IDK
brrcuda
09-10-2008, 06:54 PM
who did you buy that trike from???
You starting trouble again....:banned:
scooterroo
09-10-2008, 10:27 PM
Nice 87, used to have an 86, have always thought about trying to find another.
brrcuda
09-11-2008, 02:55 AM
To answer a previous question. I got about 1500 into it as it sits right now. Still needs topend - going with high comp piston setup, new valves and springs purchased, new chain and sprockets, and brakes gone through and rebuilt. Oh and needs an exhaust.
That doesnt include the kawasaki lakota that i traded for it to get it.
DC - i do have that plate that you mentioned for the oil pump. I will replace the pump as long as i can sneak it out of there without removing the centrifical oil filter.
:w00t:
brrcuda
10-05-2008, 11:49 AM
:Bounce Just picked up a full stock honda exhaust system including the heat shield and baffle intact for $36... sweet.... this changes the project a little now, but saves me over $120 compared to the cobra exhaust i was going to put on it.
I need DC to help me take a look at the valves/head better and get a piston kit, then start assembling this topend. :naughty:
I am trying to decide if i go flat track look for tires or slap the 22" ohtsus that are on my 250r on it for back to a more stock look. Now that the stock exhaust comes into play, IDK. I'll see how it looks as i go along... I do love the look of 10 inch rims though.....
Dirtcrasher
10-05-2008, 01:15 PM
Nice score.... I just got 2 new Supertrapp cans with disc etc that Honda250SX got made up for us. Then you can use the DG, Cobra or the rare Supertrapp headpipe. They THREW AWAY the jig to make the front half or cone of the silencer though about 10 years ago. I'll have to figure out how to make that myself. But if your down with the stock system blasted and painted or coated, thats sweet too!! Obviously the price was great!
More than happy to help out with that head anytime you need me to look at it :D.
Don't forget to search the 200SX quad too as that topend is the same as the 86/87 200X.
brrcuda
10-05-2008, 04:28 PM
well thats one question i had to you since i bought a 200sx head thats clean, but i was wondering if they were truley identical to the 200x head in performance. I heard the cams were diff but i have a brand new oem 200x cam ready to go in.
All the 86 200x heads were junk that i have seen and even bought one of them - want it....
brrcuda
10-05-2008, 04:31 PM
Oh yeah - i was cruisin Rocky mountain last night and they have clearance 38t rear sprockets on there for the 86 200x for 5.99. So i snagged one up at that price while i was buying my klotz 2 smoke oil...
chris200x
10-05-2008, 05:30 PM
...you'll be glad you didnt purchase that COBRA. :lol: :w00t:
brrcuda
08-01-2012, 07:29 PM
Figured id update thbitsld thread. picked up a motor on ebay recently and started in 2 kicks . Only a few pieces left. I'm liking the quiet exhaust. My quiet racer...
Check it out brapp. Someday I'll bring it to pa.
If anyone has a spark arrestor they dont want laying around. Pm me. I'm looking for one without buying a whole muffler...
Slowly getting last bits to start riding it.
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