ice riding...best technigues for tires?

[yamahauler/350x]

Ok guys it's getting close to ice time. What techniques does everyone use to get traction on the ice. I personally use about 300 1/4 inch sheet metal screws in each rear tire. then i run a few rows around the front tire for steering........just wondering what everyone else does....

[NINJA]

Sorry I missed this thread. Buy yourself a bag of Gold Screws instead of using those sheet metal screws. They're much harder and sharper. I and many other people use Cheng Shin C826 rear tires with those screws for ice racing. Use the 18 inch tires and the 5/8 course thread screws. You won't be dissapointed. That's about the best traction you can get on the ice.

[Bryan Raffa]

May be some one can help me out ..Im lookin for these kimplex screws..mutch bigger than gold screws...I need 2000 of them..they came from canada..you can make all kinds of power but putting it to the ice..is the main deal!

[RedRider_AK]

You can do what my friend did with his KTM (before it became mine): Take 80 or so "Gold-Digger" snowmobile studs and put them in your rear tire.

You don't necessarily have to do what he did after that, though... (he crashed and now has a line of dime-sized scars going up his leg and stopping about 4 inches away from his crotch).

[NINJA]

I haven't seen those kimpex track studs for a couple years. I was thinking about trying those Bergstrom Skegs Trail Grabbers though. They have the chunks of carbide on their heads. They've always worked great on the small displacement sleds.

[Yamada]

Do you think that by studing my tires I can gain traction on the snow???

Hey Raffa, I think Canadian tire ( car and supermarket store) is a dealer for Kimpez, I can try to see if they have those kimpex screws.

[RedRider_AK]

Do you think that by studing my tires I can gain traction on the snow???

I think it'll help pretty good in hardpacked snow, and less so the looser the snow becomes. You need paddles to scoop snow when it's loose.

[NINJA]

If you want crazy traction in the snow, pick up those 4 SNOW tires from Dennis Jirk. I really like those tires in the winter. You gotta gear down on your front sprocket though.

[RedRider_AK]

I think paddle tires would work best in snow. Just get some Skat Trak Haulers on it and own everyone, but don't get on too much hard surfaces or you'll trash the paddles quick. Does anyone remember those "Desert Storm" tires Skat-Trak made? Supposedly like hard-surface paddle tires? I want to learn more about those, I remember they had a nice bar across the tire, you could stud it and have a great ice/snow tire.

[icp4life162005]

never heard of it but i would be interested in them for the winter.

[Yamada]

ok here you go raffa.
Go to kimpex.com and find their ATV USA catalog and go to page 113 or click the link below.
http://kimpex.com/catalog.php?page=113&show=1
For whatever reason the lenght of the ice screw are not listed, but I crossreferenced them with the french catalog.
Item #009195 1/2"
Item #009196 3/4"
Item #009197 1"
Item #009198 1 1/2"
Item #009191 1 1/4"

Hope this helped you.

[Bryan Raffa]

you ment pg 125 right.. ha thanks

[bigred1]

just wondering if anyone knows if a hard tail with studded tires would do well on ice or is rear suspension a must (never been on the ice so totaly clueless) also if you put screws inthe tire do you need fixaflat or do they not go in that deep?

[tyman]

i believe most people use fix a flat because in most cases the screws go completely through the tire... i think..... and it would work on a hardtail too... its still tires touching the ground.... just remember once they are studded, you can't unstud them... easily atleast..

[RedRider_AK]

i believe most people use fix a flat because in most cases the screws go completely through the tire... i think..... and it would work on a hardtail too... its still tires touching the ground.... just remember once they are studded, you can't unstud them... easily atleast..

If you get tires with decent lugs, you can find screws short enough so that they don't go thru the tire and cause a leak. Then, when the season is over, you can MAYBE unscrew them, unless the head is too worn down. Then, you just ride with studs.

[NINJA]

IMO, paddles work like sh*t in the snow unless it's heavy wet snow. They're made for sand and advertised for sand for a reason. To get an ATV moving in the sand, you have to get the sand moving. To get an ATV moving in the snow, you have to cut the snow, not get the snow moving. Snow usually doesn't have enough mass to get an equal propulsive reaction out of your machine.