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bigred1
10-09-2007, 09:23 PM
possibly getting me an 85 250sx and wondering from you sx owners what you think from a stock stand point are they pretty same/interchangeable or big difference between the 3 years? and also do you think i will see a big difference between my 82 and 85 200 hard tails vs the 85 250sx?

Name Brand
10-09-2007, 10:27 PM
Besides the colors, the only big differnece in the years that I know of is the rear swingarm is a much easier design to work on on the '86-'87 models. I wouldn't worry about it too much; you just have to dissasemble alot more stuff to take the '85's swinarm and driveline apart. This isn't a reason not to get an '85. The SX, any year, is a good machine.

The SX will be a vastly different ride over a hardtail. I went from the 125M to my first SX; it was really amazing.

tecat-z
10-09-2007, 10:45 PM
I love my 85sx. Super comfortable and has proven very reliable in the 4 years i've owned it. It goes with me to every TF and is perfect for the technical backcountry riding, and quiet for the occasional casual night ride.

Tri-ZNate
10-09-2007, 10:51 PM
they all interchange and there are no real differences like stated

Each year had a different carb (Part numbers from Honda)
'86-'87 had a more water tight swingarm
Different colors

You cant go wrong with an SX

keister
10-09-2007, 11:21 PM
Get the '85SX!
You can't go wrong with it. I would trade my 250esBig Red any day of the week for an SX in the same condition (and I love my BR). It's as close as trikers get to perfection in rear suspension, maintenance free motor and shaft, racks, and trunk space.
There is only one better 4-stoke (350X); BUT but it (most of them anyway) can't haul a tent, cooler, hot country girl, her clothes / sleeping bag / pillow, extra ice, steaks, fishin' rod, lawnchairs, skillet, hatchet and chainsaw all in one trip to the campsite.

keister
10-09-2007, 11:24 PM
do you think i will see a big difference between my 82 and 85 200 hard tails vs the 85 250sx?

i love my 85 200S hardtail too, but now it sits on the trailer in case of triking emergency. Once you hit the trails with rear suspension, you'll never go back.

Bo0YaA
10-09-2007, 11:45 PM
There was a day that I asked the same exact question and was convinced to go with the 250sx and I have loved it ever since. Im a bigger guy at 6'3 230 and it lugs me places I never thought it would. Plus it does it in comfort.

Itrike
10-09-2007, 11:48 PM
I know may 85sx had regular type hub bolts and my 87sx had lugs more like a car. I also thought there was a diff in the carbs and wire harness.

Dirtcrasher
10-10-2007, 03:32 PM
There as a huge difference in the 86/87 rear end from the 85.

I once had 6 250SX's and every 85 had a rear diff that water had gotten into it. The drum seal is completely useless on an 85 and very water tight on an 86/87. To me it most certainly IS a big reason to avoid the 85 model. Other than that, there is no difference that you will notice or that made huge improvements over the 3 year run.

Differentials run 150$ and up to find in decent shape used and the axle bearings and crap can run another 100$. And they aren't easy to rebuild either. You can easily dump 300$ into the rearend of an 85 250SX thats why I was selling 86 rears for 400$ on EBAY and sold a few of them with no hassles.

the great gazoo
10-10-2007, 04:35 PM
There's also the difference in carbs, the 86 & 87s have a series of hoses to alleviate the cold start problem the 85s had. My '87 came w/ the hoses misrouted and/or missing, they're kind of a PITA, but workable. I should just slap an '85 carb on my '87 & be done with it.
Also, the 2nd Gens header pipe's got a heat shield, at the first bend there, supposed to protect the fender? a lot of good it does though, see pics.....

the great gazoo
10-10-2007, 04:47 PM
Sorry about that, here's the pics.

Dirtcrasher
10-10-2007, 04:49 PM
The hoses don't do crap.... It's the starter jet that made the big change. The 86/87 Keihen 08 carb has a threaded starter jet that is sized right for cold starting, the 85 has a pressed in jet that doesn't like to start.

the great gazoo
10-10-2007, 04:53 PM
Really? I didn't know that. So what's up with the hoses? Somone told me once they just took them all off, & his trike ran fine, whether or not he was telling the truth is any one's guess, though.

the great gazoo
10-10-2007, 04:56 PM
I'm new at the pic posting thing, sorry for the doubles.

the great gazoo
10-10-2007, 04:58 PM
WTF is that? Oh, I know, it's where the top hose connects......

Huffa
10-10-2007, 06:35 PM
Another very small difference is the 85 choke switch at bars does not have 2 notches to hold it at two setting so if you put it on full choke it ends to slide it's way down to 1/2 choke sometimes, depends where it slides on how well your cable is lubed to.

Just thought I'd point it out even though it's not a big deal at all.

Also there is some sort of plate back at drum that protects something on the 86/7 model, 85 doesn't have it.