Chain for ATC 110 ? Help

[chainless]

I recently revived a 1985 atc 110. It ran good until the chain fell off. I removed airbox and the few screws holding chaincase cover. The chain was off and is so rusted and stretched that it can't be used. From what I saw there is no adjustment and no chain tensioner on the trike, also I could not find a master link in this chain. I priced a chain at a Suzuki shop and the people there said that I HAVE to use a metric chain on this or else the sprocket will wear down really quick. My question to everyone is, can an american chain be used on the atc 110? chain numbers read 00428. Thanks for any help!

[rally4x4racer]

there should be a chain tensioner. get one before putting the chain on.

google the chain, theyre easy to find online

[maggiesboy]

you want a 428 chain, If I remember 96 links. Readily available at any quality cycle shop, and online at Rocky Mountain ATV

[zoomerman]

to tighten the chain there are four bolts holding the axle. you loosen them and them pull the axle back and tighten a little 12mm bolt until it's at the correct tension. then tighten the big 17mm bolts back up..

[chainless]

Thanks everyone.

[rally4x4racer]

mine has a tensioner - but its an 83, so may be different

[RedRider_AK]

mine has a tensioner - but its an 83, so may be different

Yeah, it's a tensioner. You basically loosen a bolt and move the arm to adjust tension. I have a complete good condition chain tensioner for an ATC110 if the original poster wants to have it, all he has to do is pay shipping.

[maggiesboy]

Yeah, it's a tensioner. You basically loosen a bolt and move the arm to adjust tension. I have a complete good condition chain tensioner for an ATC110 if the original poster wants to have it, all he has to do is pay shipping.

the tensioner styles vary. The early style that runs across the machine is different and will not work on the late model 110's and 125's. Those models you move the axle carrier.

[chainless]

Alright heres the deal, I looked at other models and some have tensioners. There is a junked different model that I took a tensioner off of that could probably work. I think that the 85 model never had one to begin with. Thanks for the offer of the tensioner though. If I cant get a good chain to stay on then I will weld on the splined rod to the chaincase and attach the tensioner. My original question still stands as to whether not an american made chain will totally tear up the sprocket. I could get a metric chain from a few internet sources but I am trying to save some money and buy a similar american sized chain,

[rally4x4racer]

I have never heard of an "american" chain.

maybe thats just cuz I have never replaced a chain on an "american" bike

[jason85atc250r]

YES 85 have chain tensioners you just loosen the axle housing silde it bacl and retighten the bolts. the bottom 2 17mm ones ahve the slotted holes exactly like a 200s. thats how you tighten the chain. DONT rig it like you said

only 83's and older ones have the tensoiner like pictured earlier.

[RedRider_AK]

I want to know what "metric" chain is... I thought that all chain was identical as long as the numbers (420, 428, 520, 530, 630, etc) were right...

[rally4x4racer]

you and me both...... you and me both

[chainless]

Thanks for help., when I get the chance I will double check to see If I can adjust the chain as you all have said, When I say "american" chain it is because I always thought that there was a slight difference between a "metric" and "american" chain. mostly because thats what the guy at a suzuki store told me.

[rally4x4racer]

on my first reply i almost said "stay away from that suzuki shop"

let me know if you find an american chain :)

[RedRider_AK]

Thanks for help., when I get the chance I will double check to see If I can adjust the chain as you all have said, When I say "american" chain it is because I always thought that there was a slight difference between a "metric" and "american" chain. mostly because thats what the guy at a suzuki store told me.

There is no difference between "american" and "metric" chain, because neither of those things exist. Chain is chain is chain, as long as the numbers match up, it works.

I want to know why people like that can get work at a shop... :crazy:

[maggiesboy]

There is no difference between "american" and "metric" chain, because neither of those things exist. Chain is chain is chain, as long as the numbers match up, it works.

I want to know why people like that can get work at a shop... :crazy:

so called metric chains 420, 428, 520, 528, 630


"american" chain....readily available at Tractor Supply comes on #40, #50

that is the difference.

#40 will work on 428 applications, and #50 on 520

[RedRider_AK]

so called metric chains 420, 428, 520, 528, 630
"american" chain....readily available at Tractor Supply comes on #40, #50

#40 will work on 428 applications, and #50 on 520

So why is there a difference? That's like having a metric and standard "Crescent" wrench. If they work on both types, why have two types in the first place? That just adds complication.

[chainless]

So why is there a difference? That's like having a metric and standard "Crescent" wrench. If they work on both types, why have two types in the first place? That just adds complication.

There are two types of chains, this is an attempt to confuse the hell out of me and make life more difficult.

[rally4x4racer]

were you planning on going to tractor supply to get the chain?

He might as well told you chevy rims would not fit on your trike while he was at it.

[maggiesboy]

were you planning on going to tractor supply to get the chain?



we actually got a chain on a Sunday from a Tractor supply store. It saved the trip for sure. It is actually a decent chain too. Not one of these " metal rubber bands" you buy at the bike shop for $12.00.

[maggiesboy]

He might as well told you chevy rims would not fit on your trike while he was at it.

What valued information is this? I was simply sharing information about chains..... as the thread is titled.

[chainless]

Well thanks to everybody for the help, hopefully I will be able to work on it tomorrow and possibly post some pics