Top Tier Tri-z - REINCARNATED

[honda250sx]

Well after about 8 hrs to and fro travel and one seriously packed chevy equinox, I rolled into south charlotte,nc where i am working currently with something i have always wanted. I ended up getting this tri-z from a new member to the boards BadPredator04, Dave from atlanta,ga. We had to dissassemble her in order to sneak it into my small suv. It was overall a pleasure to deal with Dave. I paid an extremely fair price for it and got a bunch of spare parts. Overall it runs really well and is strong. Great compression and solid trans. I cant wait to start on this project when i get back to ny in october. From now till then i will be building an inventory for the build. Look forward to your guys questions and input along the way. :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN2444.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN2443.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2442.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/3wheeler005.jpg

[badasskfx]

are you going to ride around with that for the next three months in your car?

[honda250sx]

Haha, no. I have a garage in my apartment complex where she resides now.

[Dustin87R]

Congrats! I just picked up an 85 tecate on thursday.How much did you end up paying for it I know he had it advertised on craigslist for $700.00

[honda250sx]

It was close to that. Super nice guy to say the least.He paid alot more for it just a few years ago and sunk some money into and just wanted to get rid of it. He was getting married and had to many toys. I was stoked to get it! Just like any 21 yr old machine it needs some serious love. But with guys like sprock and ronnie spitting out all kinds of awesome stuff how can you help but not want to build a tri-z these days.

[Bryan Raffa]

sweet man nice find and grab!! now get going LOL akron drags are in oct!!!

[honda250sx]

Raffa, I wont be home from the carolinas by then to even start brother. But we will be there with our dragster and maybe Our NEW dragster! Can you say 4 yamaha 4stroke sled engines inline in a rail drag chassis. Thats right brother! Yamaha has teamed up with us for our latest creations and its gunna be SICK. We will be there running sleds!

[Bryan Raffa]

your gonna need it..if purple haze is there... that thing is super duper, crazy,stupid F A S T!!!! what motor ya useing?

see how its parked next to the crapper.... thats so you can get off and run to clean yourself up:lol: :D

[honda250sx]

Mother of god. That thing better be in a class of its own. Ridiculous. Price Perf Big Bore motor. I believe they used to be on Grand Island NY. Nasty big bore motors!

[ceaserthethird]

Love to see - you put it in the back of your Luxury SUV !

Did your leather seats get ripped ?

[ColeTrickle]

glad to see another Tri-Z with a twist throttle, the only way to go IMO! Have fun getting her minted out!

[honda250sx]

Lmfao luxury. Shes just a work vehicle. Work pays for her to see the road. No leather seats were hurt in this move. They smell of super techniplate though! The twist throttle is whooped. Ex-owner did include a damn near new thumb throttle though and new cable. It was a highlight getting her in there.

On the way back to carolina i got pulled over in south carolina for a 89 in 60. Trooper was a young guy and he was like God'damn a tri-z, went on to tell me a story about having one as a kid. Ask where i got it and where i was going. Called me a yankee and told me to slow the hell down and to have fun with it! Phewwwwwwwww.

[84honda200s]

holy crap raffa !!!!! that thing has to be fast. i love the name of it too.

[honda250sx]

Well I finally got myself and my Z back home to snowy new york mid october. I have been collecting alot of parts here and there for the rebuild process. I have been taking apart things little by little and completely refurbishing everything. Fortunate for me I work at a yamaha dealer part time and can get all that i need at cost. I also do my own powdercoat and blasting to cut costs. Here are some pics......

Misc. Parts redone. Epoxy gloss black powder
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2953.jpg

YFZ450 front master for the Z outfitted with ASV lever and rotating clamp.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2945.jpg

NOS 40 tooth sprocket with chrome powder hub. All OEM fastners.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2942.jpg

Completely rebuilt calipers. All OEM hardware used. Pads,bolts,bleeder,seal kits
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2947.jpg

Made some 4x100 to 4x110 adaptors for the stock hubs so I can run Honda rims
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2949.jpg

Rebuilt rear master. All OEM hardware used. Epoxy gloss black powder
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2951.jpg

Pro Taper bars
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2954.jpg

NOS goodies. Kicker,YFZ450 LED tailight, fuelpump, shift shaft, chain sliders, hour meter
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2959.jpg

NOS cables. Trick stainless brake lines.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2955.jpg

Sprock CoolHead 24cc dome, hagen's stator cover, Billet triple chrome grips, inline cooler
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2957.jpg

[honda250sx]

Red forkboots, new x-ring chain, allballs chain roller, ASV clutch lever and perch.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2960.jpg

LoneStar billet banshee axle locknut
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2961.jpg

[The Goat]

wow, amazing parts to drop on that Z man.

[chris200x]

Damn Dude... that's gonna be too nice to ride! I can't wait to see it all put back together. Got an approximate date set to be done? I know thats a hard question to answer! lol

I love those hub adapters btw..

[Brockey]

Nice pile of new stuff. Hows the bike doing? You gonna tear into the motor at the same time?

[honda250sx]

Thanks Goat :)

Chris - Not sure on a set date. I work a ton and I am usually traveling for my job. I do alot of QGT (quality garage time) when I can and thats when I blast, powdercoat, and rebuild whatever. Like I said little bits at a time.

Brockey - Bike was a runner when bought. My current problem is a frozen swingarm bolt that needs to be cut out. Motor is not yet out due to swingarm issue. Motor will get new bore, Ronnies port work, sprock coolhead and clutch basket, Barnett clutch fibers and springs, Vforce reeds, all OEM bearings,seals and hardware.

[Brockey]

Wish I didnt lose out on the Z that sold for peanuts here locally awhile ago. I love the shape and colors of the Z's.

[honda250sx]

OEM rear fender (black)
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2962.jpg

ITP wheels 4x110 honda pattern. Undecided on tires, tamers maybe?
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2963.jpg

[evand]

:drool: :drool: :drool: its gunna be sweet when its done!!!

[Bryan Raffa]

sweet Man!! is that a GYTR sprocket hub? theres NIB one on ebay..wheres my weaver feaver cover?:lol:

thats the wrong clutch cable:D ;)

[Mosh]

Wow going all out.I can tell it will be a bitchin build already.
You will love that DID X ring chain.I have pounded on mine for 2 years and only had to adjust it once.
Nice work on the powder coat.

[honda250sx]

Raffa - What color you want? ?:) Blue,Black and Red are avail. Dirtbike and atv masters. Wrong clutch cable huh? I haven't even matched em up.

Mosh - Thanks. I have put a ton of these chains on customer quads and they love em to say the least. The powdercoating is just a hobby deal. I basically only do it for myself unless a friend need something done. Works out great. Super easy to do and is tough as nails. Especially epoxy black.


ANYONE GOT A STOCK SWINGARM? I NEED ONE :)

[ATCT]

Looking really good. I was checking out those ASV levers myself. Can you use those on anything? Was thinking of getting some for my Tecate. The brake lever seems like it could pose a problem.

[honda250sx]

ATCT - Thanks. The ASV levers are refurbs. availible from ASV themselves at a super discount rate. Almost half price. The clutch perch is universal atv/dirtbike applications. The brake lever is machine specific for a YFZ 450. What problem do you forsee with the lever? Mounts quite nicely on the bars and feels like butter.

[ATCT]

Oh, I was just thinking that the brake lever was specific to certain machines and wouldn't work on the Tecate. Is that actually the brake resevoir on there or is it just a cover for the resevoir?

I definitely like them, however. I'll check out their site and see what they have available.

[Tryzeedudeman]

I know there is a stock swinger on ebay right now, dont know what it going for at the time though

[honda250sx]

Thanks Tryzeedudeman. I have been in contact with Todd about that swinger.

ATCT - That is a YFZ450 master cylinder as stated. The lever is for that master cylinder. The cover is something my dealership makes up to put on every new quad and dirtbike. They are nice and better than advertisement stickers because they cant be removed easily without having another cover :)

[honda250sx]

Hmmmmmm.... :w00t:

Ronnie the impellar will be going on the tree this evening in your honor. Pretty nifty paper weight i might add:naughty: ... And to think it only took 3 budlights to do all of this is an accomplishment! Thanks for the Grease leather jacket, its flattering:lol: And well the head work is well nothing short of ******* amazing. Brought a tear to my eye. You Ron do phenomenal work. Im in machine shops everyday all around. Your skill level is in another galaxy. Guys like you are all just about long gone from this industry. :beer Heres to you YAMAHONDAMAN :D

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN2964.jpg

[honda250sx]

BEFORE

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN2497.jpg

AFTER THE YAMAHONDAMAN PROCESS

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2965.jpg

[Tri-Z Pilot]

What's the significance of the grease jacket?:crazy: :D

[Tri-ZNate]

Now I wanna take my head off and look :eek

[Yamahondaman]

Just Wait Till you see whats in the mail by next Monday !! :naughty:
Hey Tri-Z Pilot... the Jacket is just some stuff lay'n round the "shack" for Shipping and Packaging Purposes .. :lol: ...

[Bryan Raffa]

once again..Ron waves his magic wand ..turning junk into RAGGS!

YAMAHONDAMAN

[Yamahondaman]

It's Sat. the 22nd. ,, i GIT there yet ?... maybe Monday the 24th. ?
Also .... i got the Stainless Tripple Dust Cap's done today along with some Clutch Actuater Arm Washer's... got's to Drill out the Stainless Foot Peg Pin's and send after the Holiday's !! .. HOLLARRRRRRRRRRRR

[honda250sx]

I got a phone call from home and there is a package waiting for me on the workbench in the shop. From none other than Ronnie Hopkins. I will be home late this evening and plan to put it under the tree!

[Bryan Raffa]

you will know if it's authentic if it says Git it Ragg!! on the box...:naughty:

[honda250sx]

Ronnie your work is ridiculous! This stuff is so well done. Very very impressive :w00t: I don't know what to say........speechless.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2990.jpg
Here is a little update on the teardown process.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2968.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2972.jpg
This is my new dilema. The swingarm bolt would not come out. I literally cut the swingarm clear off of the trike. I then stripped it down and removed the engine. After cutting one of the sleeves that was rusted solid on the swingarm bolt I proceeded to try and tap it out of the engine cases. No go, wont budge one bit. :( Has anyone had this occur before? How did you remove it? Press?

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2991.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN2992.jpg

[Tri-ZNate]

My Z wanted bling BAD so everything slid out nice :D. Usually you can heat up the nut/bolt but I dunno about being that close to the engine

[honda250sx]

Wheeliepop, I am worried about heating that aluminum something fierce. I am thinking cut the other end off and machine a fixture to press out the swingarm bolt out of the cases.

[Bryan Raffa]

heat the steel incerts and use a press.. get the motor tore apart as mutch as you can ..it will be easyer to handle in the press

[NINJA]

That's your best bet, that and alot of PB Blaster!

[honda250sx]

I will have to see what i can do. Raffa I will need them trips from you. I can shoot out a money order after the holidays. Sound cool? PM me an address bro.

[Bryan Raffa]

yep yep.. when your ready.. you gonna have to find something to slip over the bolt to help re inforce that right side case around that steel incert..ya know...

also if you get it out of the left side case, you could heat the alum. around the other side incert and drive that out with the bolt..

[honda250sx]

Yes i am going to design a fixture to hold the engine. I may try to heat it just a bit with some map gas and soak it a bit. Then try to drive it out.

[Dirtcrasher]

Take off the clutch cover and whatever guts you need to, your gonna go through the motor anyhow? Set it up on parallels on a milling machine and have at it.

Thats how I'd deal with it anyhow.......

[honda250sx]

Had sometime at home this weekend to tinker on the Z project. Went down to the ducati dealer near me who used to be a dealer for alot of assorted companies. Most importantly aftermarket companies. Scored some cool oldschool decals. Raffa you like the vintage dynoport decal?

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3048.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3049.jpg

Decided to build a TRX250R thumber to pull a big carb. All the guts inside are brand new OEM, bushings,spring, and that funky cam linkage they use in there.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3051.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3052.jpg

Scored this as well recently. NOS handlebar switch for the Z. Also redid the harness with all new connectors, plug wire and spark plug cap.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3054.jpg
Also scored this as well. Looking to trade possibly for other Z parts
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3055.jpg

[honda250sx]

I also had some time to shoot some powder and blasted up my Z's spring and shot it in some epoxy gloss red. Came out nice!! I decided to go with a white stock swinger with my red frame and black plastics. I might even put some westcoast decals on it. I also whipped up a galfer brake line at work. At the dealership we got all the goodies to make up anykind of brake lines. Lastly I got to thank X.SYSTEM - Jim! Sweet bushings man. I will be using this instead of bearings and bushings. Thanks man!
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3050.jpg

[ATC-Eric]

Holy COW Jeff!

This is the first time Ive really dug through your thread here. :drool:


The bikes going to look amazing! Your doing great.




That shroud, do you have both sides?

Looking to trade for Z parts eh? I have a little of everything, and would be willing to throw some stuff down for that!


Good luck, and taker it easy! :beer

[honda250sx]

Eric thanks bro. I have been just crankin parts out here and there. Doing my own blasting and powdercoating sure helps. Along with working part time at a dealer and getting dealer cost its the only way workin on these relics is economically feasable without sinking thousands into it. That shroud was an early AM ebay score. You dont want to know what the BIN was? Lets say it was cheaper than one person can eat at Mcdonalds for....... Anyhow i dont have the other side. Just one in the wrapper, stapled shut. Haven't opened it myself. I really dont have a clue what i want to trade it for.

[ATC-Eric]

Well Ill give you more then a mcdonalds meals worth for it :lol:


If you want to gets ride of it, name your parts, and we can deal :beer


EDIT: doing your on powdercoating rocks. Im working on something right now to save myself some money on the next bike.

[honda250sx]

No sweat man if i do decide I need to get rid of it for something I will look ya up!!!! As for the PC it saves mad cash!!!!

[honda250sx]

Corey this thing looks killer. A truly beautifully done piece of machine work. It will be sometime before this even hits my motor as the motor will be built lastly on my build. I have to thank you again for your continued investment in the trike community. Your hard work and skills shine brilliantly in your work.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3113.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3100.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3101.jpg

Ronnie I got a big nasty goody box from you too. The triple cap looks damn good along with footpeg pins and the other items! I will have something in BLUE for you in the near future :)

[TRITecate350]

No problem, glad you like it. You should take another picture like the first one with out the base gasket.... then I can steal it and use it on ebay :)

[honda250sx]

No problem. Sprock i will PM you a pic.

[honda250sx]

What to do about an axle? I would like to go wider than stock. Maybe +4? By the looks of things it will be a banshee axle. Is this a direct swap? Stock rotor and hub for sprocket fits fine? G-force, Durablue, RPM dominator, lonestar? Whats a guy to do? What would you buy? Post up links as well.

[honda250sx]

Haha I would have loved to trade you for that headlight shroud that sold on ebay today? I danced around the buy it now for a bit this morning :(. If ya had to go new Mike what would ya do?

[honda250sx]

Yeah your telling me. I totally dig that blue. It would be killer. But I always loved the 85.5 colors. I plan on going with a stock swinger in powdercoated white to mimic the westcoast. That switch was not selling, no one was bidding so i shot the seller a message and asked him to throw a buyitnow for 35 bucks and he did it. Thanks for the info and help Mike.

[Yamahondaman]

Ronnie I got a big nasty goody box from you too. The triple cap looks damn good along with footpeg pins and the other items! I will have something in BLUE for you in the near future :)

Glad the stuff looks good .. take care of all of it as they will be rare in the future :naughty:

[honda250sx]

Well, starting to look at motor ideas and so on. Ronnie will be doing my cylinder port work. I will be running a sprock coolhead w/interchangeable domes. Looking to wake my Z up with a bigger carb. What do you Z guys think is best bang for the buck? PWK 39mm or 38mm AIRSTRYKER?

[chris200x]

you should keep it stock. more reliable.

[honda250sx]

Negative, nothing stock about this thing. Besides, if i have trouble with it....DR. RAFFA's Tri-Z Emergency Room is only an hour a way!

[chris200x]

LOL.... :beer cheaper too! :lol:

whatever you do hurry up! Can't wait to see this badboy.

[Tri-ZNate]

I have a 38mm PWM that was bored to a 40½mm and that really woke up the stock engine, Since your goin all out might as well go BIG ;)

[Bryan Raffa]

Im running a 39pwk on my race bike,38 pj on my trail bike. I would go with a PWK..it smoothed out the light switch effect

[honda250sx]

When you ask the MAN he delievers. Thanks Bryan.

[Bryan Raffa]

ronnie ran that carb on the mantis also.. what ever you get make shure its as big as a 38

[dmotoxrider]

what about one of those lectron carbs? anyone ever use one. I guess you don't have to jet them.

[honda250sx]

Well finally got my rear tires and mounted them up this weekend. Went with the classic turf tamers 20x11x9 on some ITP wheels. They are 4x110mm bolt patern. The hubs I am running are the PARTS UNLIMITED Yamaha spline/Honda bolt pattern hubs (PN#144512). They are cast aluminum and run about $60 bucks a pop. I powdered these with Super Mirror white powdercoat.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3127.jpg

I decided to mock up the front end of the Z as well. The forks have been completely rebuilt with OEM bolts,seals, and etc. They have also been outfitted with Progressive suspension and some 15wt. BelRay fork oil. Fork legs done in epoxy gloss black powder. Front hub done in Super Mirror White powder. Front hub has ALLBALLS bearings and Ronnie's stainless nuts and washers. Also running Ronnie's front stainless axle and spacers.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3128.jpg

I decided to go with a G-FORCE banshee axle +4 and a PWK39 carburetor. Those will be in next week.

[Bryan Raffa]

verry nice .. cant wat too see it!

[honda250sx]

Raffa, When I get the engine and everything ready. First stop I make will be in Conesus Lake. Im gunna need your tuning skills bro!

[Bryan Raffa]

Raffa, When I get the engine and everything ready. First stop I make will be in Conesus Lake. Im gunna need your tuning skills bro!

shure we can go over to my buddys farm , and jet it on the airplane strip..:Bounce

[honda250sx]

Muahahahahaha sounds gooooooooooood

[Tri-ZNate]

Very Nice. Seems like everyone's Z has been getting some goodies lately :naughty: I gotta post some updated pics

[tri-Z ripper]

Mine def needs some goodies and some love! she is getting some TLC in a nice warm basement!

[honda250sx]

This Z is sparing no expense.

Sprock Coolhead
Sprock Clutch basket
Sprock Billet Intake
Sprock Quickchange clutch cover
Yamahondaman Lightened flywheel
Yamahondaman Porting & Piston work
Yamahondaman bling package
EDS Motorsports full silicone coolant hoses
Galfer Stainless brake lines front and rear
X.Systems swingarm bushings
Hagen's Stator cover
Progressive Suspension
PWK 39 mm Carburetor
V-Force 3 reeds
G-Force racing +4 Banshee axle
Lonestar racing anti-fade nut
ProTaper handlebars
ASV clutch and brake levers
TRX 250R thumb throttle
ALLBALLS bearings all the way around
TONS of OEM bolts, bushings and seals all NEW
Turf Tamers and ITP rims
PRM-ATV desert grab bar
NOS YFZ450 L.E.D taillight ( this machine will have complete working brake light system)

All I can think of right now, lol

[bigpimpin]

nice trike. what are you using to powder coat?

[Tri-ZNate]

EDS Motorsports full silicone coolant hoses


Let us know when these suckers are done. I'm gonna need a set

[tri-Z ripper]

i second that notion nate definetly would love to have a set of silcone hoses!

[honda250sx]

Ripper/Wheeliepop - Last I talked to Mike at EDS they were finishing the dies to create the preformed hoses. So Im hoping by the end of the month they will be ready for us. Availible in Black,Blue,Red,and Yellow.

Bigpimpin - Eastwood hotcoat gun and a couple of free ovens from craigslist.

[honda250sx]

Got my PWK 39mm carb today and I was wondering what throttle cables you guys are running with these things. I bought a brand new 86 style cable for my Z thinking I could run that. The end of the cable has the black female threaded part and the PWK came with a brass ferrel threaded into the carb cap? What do you have to do to make this work. Raffa, Mosh, Ronnie, ATC-Eric? How do you guys have your PWK's set up? I will be pulling it with a TRX 250R thumber.

[Tri-ZNate]

Got my PWK 39mm carb today and I was wondering what throttle cables you guys are running with these things. I bought a brand new 86 style cable for my Z thinking I could run that. The end of the cable has the black female threaded part and the PWK came with a brass ferrel threaded into the carb cap? What do you have to do to make this work. Raffa, Mosh, Ronnie, ATC-Eric? How do you guys have your PWK's set up? I will be pulling it with a TRX 250R thumber.

1983 Honda 250r is what I use

[Bryan Raffa]

1983 Honda 250r is what I use

I use the 83 R cable on everything..even my 48mm lectron

[honda250sx]

Thanks guys. I will order one today.

[Yamahondaman]

I Used the 1985 ATC Cable along with the ATC-TRX 1985-1989 Thumb On the MANTIS

[honda250sx]

Finally got my G-force after a screw up in shipping. Slapped some of the parts I have already redone on it to see how it looked. Looks pretty good. Stretches to about 52 inches across.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3133.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3134.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3135.jpg

And a couple pics of the new PWK 39mm. Wheres a good place to start jetting? High comp. dome,v-force 3, ronnies port and polish, etc.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3136.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3137.jpg

[ATC-Eric]

Looks great man!


Id start with a 55 pilot, and a 170 main. Im pretty sure thats about where mines at. Only difference is I gots a pump gas dome on right now.


Finish that sucker! I cant wait to see it!

[Tri-ZNate]

I needed a 200 main, clip dropped all the way, and a 60 main to keep enough color to make me happy.

40.5mm PWM, Boyseen power Reeds, DG National Pipe, open air box with a K&N

[honda250sx]

Thanks for the tips guys. It sure helps when you start fresh.

[honda250sx]

Well I wish it was a WestCoast swinger no doubt about it. Ever since I had seen mikeinlongisland's real deal westcoast swinger I said F' it Im gunna make my stocker look like that. So here it is in Super Mirror White powdercoat. X.Systems westcoast decals and tri-z bushings. Got This Rag with ronnie's stainless caps and swinger bolt. OEM chain sliders from Yamaha and some stainless socket heads for looks. Other than that shes OEM. This will have a OMF swinger guard when Bones gets it done! Next update won't be for a while. I have to travel out of the country and by the time I get back I will have a frame ready and hope to have a roller by May.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3158.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3159.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3160.jpg

[evand]

ahaha that looks awsome man, it would fool me:beer

[honda250sx]

Didn't expect these to be back in ONE day turn around from the local anodizer! Talk about service. Damn fast and nicely done. $40 bucks to have all of this done. I had to break up all the bling from stainless and billet. So I had these done. Note to anyone anodizing Hagen's clutch covers. They are not T-6061 aluminum some foreign alloy so they tell me.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3164.jpg

And I couldn't bare to resist throwing some bolts in and dreaming :)
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3165.jpg

[Dirtcrasher]

Oh yeah! Looks sweet! Thats a nice price from the anodizer too. Wish I had a reasonable coater/anodizer around here....

I've got lots of stuff I want the zinc chromate plated on and some aluminun goodies too. Humm, why hasn't anyone anodized a complete motor??

[evand]

man that thing is going to be top notch when its done!thats cheap for all that work 2:beer

[tecat-z]

Oh yeah! Looks sweet! Thats a nice price from the anodizer too. Wish I had a reasonable coater/anodizer around here....

I've got lots of stuff I want the zinc chromate plated on and some aluminun goodies too. Humm, why hasn't anyone anodized a complete motor??

I tried having the cases, cylinder, and head anodized on my Tecate a few years back. It doesnt work. The aluminum that is used for these pieces is basically a very poor quality with lots of other metals mixed in. The best way to describe it is that it looks like dirty copper. I had them done in blue. High quality billet pieces that are machined turn out like the sprock head. Bright and high luster.

[honda250sx]

Steve if I had a complete billet motor I would anodize it in a heartbeat! Problem with anodizing is there are too many contaminates in casted aluminum. Even with different alloys, high manesium or high copper aluminum can wreak havoc on the color of choice. That stator cover from Hagen had to be dipped 3 times before they get there "brew" right when they coated it. They say it takes best to 6061 aluminum. The shinier the better they say as well. If its polished like a mirror the better finish you achieve. Steve if you ever need anything billet done let me know man. I work about a mile from this place. Quick cheap easy quality!

[honda250sx]

Ed beat me too it. You are correct! I thought about polishing my lower triple and having it done but instead it will be just polished.

[honda250sx]

Get em while there HOT boys! Bout time we started having all the luxuries of the Honda's. These look so great Mike! I donated my hoses months ago to Mike's efforts at E.D.S Motorsports in the U.K. If you have seen his work on the ATC 250Rs its top notch. These will look SICK with the new MOSH's blue plastics!!!!!!

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/smalltri-z.jpg

[Tri-ZNate]

These will look SICK with the new MOSH's blue plastics!!!!!!



Forget that! yellow hoses on an All yellow Z :cool:. Yellow and chrome here I come :Bounce. Thanks for taking the effort

[honda250sx]

whatever color combo you desire wheeliepop!

[tri-Z ripper]

AWESOME will definetly be putting those on my Z

[honda250sx]

Had some spare time to get into the tri-z engine this weekend. Sure glad I did. This engine has had some water in it for sometime. It does appear to have had the waterpump gear and mechanical seal changed recently. After removing the clutch and everything else related to that side of the engine. I was able to drill some holes in the plywood I had between sawhorses and lay the engine flat. I then took a Razrblade grinding disc and cut off the swinger bolt that was frozen in the cases. I was then able to drive out the pin that was frozen in. It got even better when i split the cases. The tranny was completely encased in sludge and grime. Either way oh well. This will get all new OEM bearings and seals. Not the ebay bargain bearings and no name seal kits. Anyone who is familar with yamaha knows they run teflon around the sealing surface of the seals. Tranny shafts and gears look good. They will get cleaned up in a sandblaster that i use walnut shells in. Much for forgiving on delicate parts :). Frame will be back tomorrow from powdercoat and then its only a matter of time before there will be a roller!!!!

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3168.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3169.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3170.jpg

[ATC-Eric]

Wow thats nasty! :eek:




Hurry up man I wants more pics! :w00t:

[honda250sx]

Eric in due time my friend. The engine will be a while. I have a ton of parts on order @ the dealer I work at. I have seen to many guys "rebuild" motors and not do what needs to be done. They figure one bottom end for every two top ends. This motor was on 68.50. Which is the second run for the bottom end. She is definetly tired. All the sealed bearings had signifact bubbling on the seals themselves, which means one thing RUST! Crank bearings didnt seem to terribly bad. But whats the point of spliting the case and not changing them. This wont be a whine and complain thread when I have a cosmetically good looking bike with a junk motor because I didn't take the time to do it RIGHT!

[Dirtcrasher]

Well said.....

I cannot believe anyone would split a motor without changing crank bearings and or seals and many people do.

It's funny how people don't have the money to "do it right" but they do have the time and money to do it twice.

These OEM powerplants lasted almost 25 years in some cases. Then you have guys here that "rebuild" them and they rebuild them in STOCK form so there should not be a reliability issue. But, 2 weeks later comes the post " my engine seized" or "my tranny isn't shifting right" amongst many other problems.

Take your time, do it right and be done with it!!

Nice build Jeff!!

[honda250sx]

Thanks Steve!

Yeah maybe that was a little bit of a rant post but I mean lets look at the contributing factors here. Not mentioning names but there are alot of guys doing some great things to keep these bikes up to date and so on that get these things "finished" and next thing you know its, "At my whits end", "Motor blown up", "I need crank bearings", "Hopefully this fix's it or all my bikes are forsale". Suck it up come on. I plan on this trike lasting me for a while or at least long enough for me to realize I want to build another or something else. So what, I know I will loose my ass but its been a hell of alot of fun doing it. If some of these guys get frustrated over a $250 dollar carb not running right then I hate to see what the hell they are really like in there normal day to day life with a wife and kids and a job too boot!

[honda250sx]

Fresh outta the MF'ing' oven man! This is what the motor looks like mocked up. Color is Gunmetal grey metallic from columbia coatings in tennessee. Boy is this thing sharp to the eye in the sun! God I cant wait to get this thing together! No expense spared yet again. All OEM in the bottom. Crank will get trued up with a new rod and the pin tig welded in. Hope to be able to keep a wine glass on the seat LOL. Just teaser I had an early day from work and couldn't wait to finish powdercoating her!

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3172.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3173.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3174.jpg

[BigGreenMachine]

Turf Tamers FTW! :drool: That rear is nice!


And I couldn't bare to resist throwing some bolts in and dreaming :)
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3165.jpg

[dreadhed]

Looking sweet man. Looks like that motor will be fun.

[Bryan Raffa]

L@@King Great! cant wait too see it in person!

[honda250sx]

Well got my frame back and took two days off of work to play! Started putting her together tonight.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3175.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3176.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3177.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3179.jpg

First sets are in the STATES!!!!!
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3178.jpg

[thefox]

Well got my frame back and took two days off of work to play! Started putting her together tonight. [/IMG]

Now that is a true triker!!! :TrikesOwn

[bigpimpin]

bad to the bone. it must be hard to look at it without having it together to be able to ride it. how long you think before its done?

[honda250sx]

Yeah it is. I rode it once. Scared myself. Bought it. Tore it down. Threw it in my car and have been building and aquiring parts ever since. Maybe this summer. Maybe not. Still have to do all the motor work and what not. Lots more parts on the way......

[honda250sx]

Late night again working on the wheeler. Got rad's installed and plumbed with new silicone hoses. They do require some triming as they are not "perfect" length's but do fit nicely. I recommend for anyone buying the hoses to inquire about Mike's worm clamps he offers. They work nice! Waiting on OEM suspension shock bolts to install the shock and dogbone assembly. Front tire came in and need to get front wheel powdercoated this weekend. Not far from a roller. But a ways before shes done.

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

it is looking pretty sharp! i love the turf tamers, just got me a set for my 1987 zilla last week, they hook hard in the straights and slide real nice in the turns

[ATC-Eric]

Man thats lookin great! Gonna be one of the nicest on the boards!

[honda250sx]

Thanks for the compliments guys...Didn't get much done today other than powdercoating the front rim super mirror black and mounting the new 489 tire i got for the front 23 incher instead of 25. Looks sharp with the blacked out wheels and white hubs.

[honda250sx]

Rolling...Rolling...Rolling!!!

Few labatt blues and playoff hockey in the backround and this actually happend tonight!

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3182.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3183.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3184.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3185.jpg

[bigpimpin]

sweet. i cant believe that is the same bike

[honda250sx]

Actually me either. Its been a long time since it was a huge hunk of garbage. Guy said it was solid....lol riiiiiiiight.

[TRITecate350]

Looks great! Cant wait to see it finished!

[honda250sx]

Thanks Corey. Cant wait to see the intakes in person. They look great to say the least.

[honda250sx]

Well I was getting the bearings in the cases last night and found that at one point something broke in the kicker mechanism and had hairline cracked the case all the way down to the rear transmission bearing. So that totally F***** me over. I need a set of cases. Is it possible to use just the right side? I think they are matched sets correct me if im wrong please. I NEED CASES :) PRONTO:)

Also picked this up
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3190.jpg

[ATC-Eric]

Well I was getting the bearings in the cases last night and found that at one point something broke in the kicker mechanism and had hairline cracked the case all the way down to the rear transmission bearing. So that totally F***** me over. I need a set of cases. Is it possible to use just the right side? I think they are matched sets correct me if im wrong please. I NEED CASES :) PRONTO:)

Also picked this up
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3190.jpg

Nice float bowl :cool:

The cases are machined to eachother. If you pick up just the left side, you will have to deck them to get them to match.

[honda250sx]

I really need cases. If anyone has a set. Im willing to part with this.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3055.jpg

[Bryan Raffa]

I have mixed cases before with no problems

[Dirtcrasher]

Hey, I wanna see pics of the bad case!!

[Macs]

i think i might have a set of good cases i really wasnt planning on getting rid of. Actually it would be a complete lower end since i am to lazy to seperate. pm me an offer and we will talk.

[honda250sx]

DC its at the weld shop currently. I never took pic's. I was too upset when it happend. Luckly it didnt end up on the other side of the shop in pieces........

[Bryan Raffa]

so do you need cases? Ill be in buffalo at 9am....I HAVE A SET OF 86 CASES GLASS BEAD BLASTED READY TO GO..BUT ,,,, you owe me big time!:p

[honda250sx]

UMMMMM will they work with my 85 guts???? You should stop by!

[Bryan Raffa]

there it is my last set of cases... and 86 no less:drool:
yes direct swap.. I want your old ones

[Bryan Raffa]

;) see you in the morning!

[Bryan Raffa]

jeff.. you need anything else? any stupid grommets or anything that you can think of?

[honda250sx]

Decided to get a little more done on the tri-z this weekend. Met up with Raffa on saturday morning! Great guy no doubt. Real comforting to know that a guy that possess his knowledge about these things is only an hour a way. Currently the shock is out for rebuild by a good friend of mine. I got the dogbone powdercoated in some chrome and replaced all the bushings seals and bearings in it. All new OEM bolts as well

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3193.jpg

Hose routing from the back two outlets of the fuel pump. Does the bottom nipple hook to the bottom nipple of the tank? The top nipple hook to the top mount back by the grab bar?
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3195.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3194.jpg

[chris200x]

An hour away? so we'll expect to see you running this at icefest next year? :beer its lookin schweet too!

Top to top bottom to bottom I think. I did a write up about it here and .org with alot of pics,, along with the whole fuel pump nitemare.. :lol: good luck with that! :lock:

[honda250sx]

HELL YES Chris...

I was searching thru your posts a minute ago. You asked alot of the same questions I have just in many multiple threads. I am still looking.

BTW........Fuel pump brand spanking new... stole it on ebay for 40 bucks BIN one morning:)

[Tri-ZNate]

Lookin good, so just about everything on the Z will be new right? Looks like a new gas cap even :lol:

Where did you find the rubber grommets for the air box cover? are they still available OEM?

How much do you figure you'll have into it?

[chris200x]

The local hardare store has those grommets nate.. Heck I still got abunch of them if your lazy... :)

[Tri-ZNate]

Sounds good chris, Maybe next ride I''l bring the beer :beer

[Bryan Raffa]

:beer :beer :beer NO,, bottom nipple - to top nipple (RES) side nipple to the bottom nipple (ON)

eather way it will run ,,just the switch on the pump will be backwards..

wish I could have hung out longer ,,but two 5yr olds in the back seat..I was getting stressed.. got too Gplarrys friends house and there was a playground across the street... thank god..

can you get them air cover wing nuts new? if ya can grab me a couple please...I never tryed to get them...

[honda250sx]

Wheelipop - Gromets are still available. I have extra's if need be. And access to alot more. Many yamaha's use these. Gas cap is old as the trike. Little white paint pen and a steady hand and yours can look like that too. Numbers on how much I have in it... Lots of receipts no time to tally. Not sure if i want too lol.

Bryan - Microfiche reader in my basement and i still dont think to look at it :) Hey man no problem on the wing nuts. They were just available the other day when i got that one. I will grab ya a few when I order the pumps this week. :beer :welcome:

[honda250sx]

According to the Man, B.Raffa.... Bottom of the tank fitting to top fitting on pump (RES)....Side tank fitting to bottom fitting on pump (ON) Correct???
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3196.jpg

Pump output to T-Fitting to on/off petcock... Out of petcock to PWK39mm...?

Out of brass fitting to vac. port on cylinder...?

T-fitting to large fitting on tank to return fuel...?

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3198.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3199.jpg

Also is this where you guys mount some fuel line to protect kicker and the footpeg? Just trying to gather all the info learned from searching threads and apply all this to one thread so I don't have a million threads on one trike:)
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3197.jpg

[Tri-ZNate]

Also is this where you guys mount some fuel line to protect kicker and the footpeg?


:wondering thats new to me.

[Bryan Raffa]

kick start hits on the front of the peg..not the back and it will slice that gasline like butter..

and thats a banshee rear resv....:)

Pump output to T-Fitting to on/off petcock... Out of petcock to PWK39mm...?

Out of brass fitting to vac. port on cylinder...?

T-fitting to large fitting on tank to return fuel...?

YES YOU GOT IT!

that motion pro gas line is great stuff.. stays flexable a long time..

[honda250sx]

Ah okay. So what do you put some hose on the kicker itself? I remember you talking about it in another thread somewhere.

Yes brand new banshee rear resi with the other mount machined off :) ya got me!

Yes the tygon motion pro fuel line is amazing stuff. No one wants to buy it for its price. I just pull it off a 100ft spool hahahaha.

[Bryan Raffa]

ya right on the kicker.. when it gets chewed up I just replace it..

[honda250sx]

And Nate thought we were crazy:) haha. Thanks Raffa. Always quick with a camera and answers!

[honda250sx]

Decided on a grab bar. Love my other PRM grabber and went with the same damn model just cause it rocks. PRM also included 250sx tail light mounts that I plan to weld to this grabber so i can use honda's nice little rubber mounts to suspend my YFZ450 tail light on it.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/tz188.jpg

Should be here tomorrow!

[honda250sx]

I am currently trying to figure out what I can do to run an airfiter on the tri-z. I am going to be running corey's new intake on a cylinder with ronnie's porting. Im feeding it with the ever popular 39mm PWK. What do you guys run for a filter that run these carbs. Stock airbox just doesnt seem ethical. Clamp on's??? Pics of your setups always appreciated!

[Tri-ZNate]

I am currently trying to figure out what I can do to run an airfiter on the tri-z. I am going to be running corey's new intake on a cylinder with ronnie's porting. Im feeding it with the ever popular 39mm PWK. What do you guys run for a filter that run these carbs. Stock airbox just doesnt seem ethical. Clamp on's??? Pics of your setups always appreciated!

In the phase 2 wrench report they list a K&N (looks like it came off a carbed truck) that secures under the seat to the 90* rubber intake piece. The filter is still available from K&N if you'd like to go that route


And i remember now, just been a while.

[Bryan Raffa]

K&N with a outerware and 12- 1" uni vents in the the stock air box & lid. With the rubber stuffer on the front of the box pulled out. it keeps the filter cleaner and still get plenty of air.;)

[clutchcargo]

Why not just run it with the lid off?

[Tri-ZNate]

Why not just run it with the lid off?

I'm guessing his filter stays cleaner that way

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

i got the " come get some " set up the mantis, and ill get you pic of the red/black one. i used a 12 inch k@n with a 4 long billet tube, it has the top mount alumuim tank though. it comes back half way under the seat

[honda250sx]

Nathan how did ronnie hook the mantis up like that? Any closer "undercover" photo's?

[Mosh]

I am running a Pwk 39 with a pod filter straight off the carb on My big bore.

It has a 20 degree boot with a 4 inch pod filter.I had to trim down the boot at the carb a little.I measured the OD of the carb and the amount of area to the tank,went to K&N site and ordered by the dimensions I came up with.
I had to relocate The over flow bottle.
I moved it up to where the airbox "was" and zip tied it to the center frame rail.(Kinda hokey I know,I wanted to make a bracket or use a Shee bracket,but have not gotten to it yet)It works fine though.

I dont remember the part # off hand,but I can try to find it.


The only downfall to this is,when I need to clean the filter,I have to unbolt the 2 front plastic bolts under the seat to get enough room to remove it.But in reality,It isnt any more complex than servicing the stock filter.And at least I know I am getting a good seal,unlike the stock airbox.

But since I only drag it,I do not have to clean the filter too often.

Your Machine is coming along nicely.You are doing a great job.

EDIT:I will go upload pics here now.Give me a few minutes.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/cosmicquads/filter4800.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/cosmicquads/filter1800.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/cosmicquads/filter2800.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m40/cosmicquads/filter3800.jpg

[honda250sx]

Rob without guys like you and Raffa...where would I be! I was actually thinking of getting a YFZ 450 coolant resi and moving it back to where the grab bar is tucked up nicely bolted to the frame. That way the height will be the same for the resi and i gain that much room for a filter. I am really going for a setup much like you described. But if i can i may try to develope something like what ronnie has on the mantis. Thats kinda nice and much easier for removal.

[honda250sx]

This will give you the idea. This is meant to be mounted on the left hand side but due to the exhaust on the z being on that side I would mount it on the right hand side of the subframe. Wouldn't take much to make up a nice mount and move the resi over there.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/yfzresi.jpg

[Mosh]

Nice Idea,with the fo fiddy bottle.

Ronnies set-up is trick too,Ronnie's if I recall had a tube going up the back bone like the stock set-up,but made from billet.

I figured with the 310 motor,it would like the extra gulp of air without all the extra bends and curves,that the factory set-up restricts.

Obviously,I could have cut out my plastic,but did not want to hack it up for this filter.

I saw that you said the OEM rear plastic was available yet.Did they check if there were still units on hand?

Keep up the good work!

[honda250sx]

When i checked with them yesterday they had all three avail. What throttle cable do you have on that pwk. I was told 83 250r. I got one and the only way i could run it is if i take the locking nut off of the end and remove the locking nut on the cable guide on top of the carb. I am running a TRX250R throttle too. Thanks for the quick pics. If you get a number for that filter let me know. I LIKES IT!

[Mosh]

I custom made that cable.I think it originated from a 85 250R,and I shortened the steel cable and re-atached the carb end.I also run a Sprock billet thumb throttle.So maybe that has something to do with my custom set-up.I cant remember anymore.Man I am gettin old.LOL

[Mosh]

I got my K/N from J&L atv.

I either got the part# RU1700(2 and 1/4" carb size) or part # RU1750(2 and 7/16th" carb size)I honestly dont remember which one it was.Cant find the reciept either.

The are both 3 and 1/2 inches diameter;4 inches long and a 20 degree boot kick-up.You just need to measure your intake flange on your carb O/D,to order the right one.

[honda250sx]

Rob awesome. Thanks for diggin' up that info. Greatly appreciated!

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

this is a pic of someones tri-z in ohio from two years ago

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

i did this setup a few months back. a six inch filter (k@n) witha plastic tube . i cut the center of the rear fender to make it easier to get around the filter. now i have a billet tube and a foot long k@N

[dirtbag]

orange shee looks like a marvin shaw shock on there ,how do you like it

[honda250sx]

how bout you pm Nathan find out.

Nathan thanks for the great pic's. Ever decide if you had a bottom end that you want to part with?

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

i have both jeff, i have cases and the internals. heres the BUT. dan dale on .org is buying the turbo crank, so the cases are at the machine shop with the crank. but yes i can sell a bottom end less the crank if need be,or you can buy the cases .

i have two types of shaws, the comp is the greatest hooking shock for dirt drags ive rode. i have the chrome coil over version too, but it rebounds way to fast, the comp comes up very, very slow. so slow that in 300 ft, it almost back to the top at the end of the run!
the shock pics are on two differnet tri-z's, even though they look like the same bike.

[Yamahondaman]

orange shee looks like a marvin shaw shock on there ,how do you like it

:naughty: :naughty: :naughty:

[honda250sx]

When ever your ready to sell nathan. Thanks again for the helpful pic's!

[honda250sx]

Coming home to boxes of parts is the best thing in life haha. Got back into town this week and had my new PRM bumper at the house. Along with a bunch of billet intakes for anodizing from the sprock man! Got the bumper mounted up. As always another quality piece from the guys in Oregon. No bending, filing, cutting and tweaking. Just a few stainless bolts and painless installation.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3220.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3221.jpg

Also took sometime to mount up the YFZ450 L.E.D. tail light that i snagged for this build. I utilized the stock mounting holes on the back side of the tail light. I drilled and tapped the mounting holes on the tail light to an M6x1.00mm bolt. I then used the stock tail light rubbers for the Tri-Z to mount it. Once those were bolted to the tail light i used the mounts for the rear tank guard as a mounting point. Two longer stainless bolts and some washers and she is rubber mounted and ready for battle!
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3222.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3223.jpg

[starky1234]

Looking good i like the YFZ450 L.E.D. and the PRM bumper

[honda250sx]

Well after playing with the airfilter options I have lowered it down to either a style like moshmans or the cold air intake aluminum tube style. I am trying to locate the tubing that these cold air systems use on cars. Anyone know where it can be purchased? Then i could mount a K&N in the stock location.

[honda250sx]

Got my Waterpump back in the mail today from Dirtcrasher aka Steve. Which those of you who have never dealt with or pm'd back and forth is a great dude, not to mention knowledgable in just about anything and everything. I sent him my pump to have it pinned. Came back just as I expected. High quality job complete with a stainless steel roll pin. Great job Steve. I really appreciate you doing this for me.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3226.jpg

I decided to throw together a collection of pictures on putting one of these pumps back together. I know alot of guys have experienced the failure and alot of guys inquire on how to do it. Here we go.

First off I made sure the journal where the shaft rides was free of burs and any damage that may have been caused by the removal of old mechanical seals in its life time. I just lubed up the seal with a little BELRAY waterproof grease and tapped it in with a seal driver of adaquate size. Be sure to have WATERSIDE facing out.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3228.jpg

Once the seal was installed I lubed the inside of the mechanical seal with some more Bel Ray waterproof grease. Here is the parts that are required to do the job. I purchased all brand new parts.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3229.jpg

With the shaft now installed thru the clutch cover it is now time to flip the cover over. Install the washer on the pump shaft and then insert the dowel pin.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3231.jpg

Next install the water pump gear to the pump shaft. Notice the retention area for the dowel pin on the backside of the gear. That goes face down onto the shaft so that the shaft can be mechanically driven by the gear.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3232.jpg

With the gear installed, the last thing to do is install the e-clip that retains everything on the shaft. Once that is done the job is complete. Do not forget when installing the cover to put the washer back on the end of the shaft before fitting to the crankcase. The washer is easily retained with a dab of grease and installed.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3233.jpg

Thanks again DirtCrasher for supplying your services:w00t: :beer :w00t:

[Dirtcrasher]

Your very welcome :beer

I still say those impellers need to be made out of aluminum and pressed onto a stainless steel or stock shaft. And I'd still either pin or key them......

Good talking to ya Jeff.....

[DeePa]

hey steve where did you learn to pin those?

[honda250sx]

He told me you were the first to be PINNED!

[DeePa]

haha yeah 2 of them...i was the lab rat...

sorry for stepping over the rear brake caliper in the other post, didnt even read the thread

[honda250sx]

No problems. I dont even really need need them. I just wanted extra's just incase.

[honda250sx]

Just had these anodized for the man himself. These are yet another piece of high quality machine work offered by Sprock Racing. These intakes will soon be availible for the TRI-Z's... Those of you who did not preorder may have wished you did. They will be availible in Black,Red,Blue and raw aluminum. With Sprocks new intake you will be allowed to run that bigger carb you have dreamed of and have unprecidented throttle response if you buy the complete package which includes V-FORCE 3 carbon fiber reeds.

GET ONE!
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3253.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3256.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3254.jpg

[ATC-Eric]

Phrukin NICE!!!!! :cool:

[chris200x]

:drool: :drool: :drool: Tri z porn at its finest... :cool:

Too bad they dont stay runnin very long! :D

....makes me wish I never got rid of mine. :rolleyes:

Can't wait to see this finished up and get the ride report. :w00t:

[NOS_350X]

Too bad that intake wont work on my Z
Mine is about 5 inches wide :w00t:

[Tri-ZNate]

raw aluminum.

mmmmm Cant wait till he gets the boots, then away they go :twisted:

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

Too bad that intake wont work on my Z
Mine is about 5 inches wide :w00t:

hmmmm, what is that???:wondering
looks the i the infamous "k" model..:eek:

[WLL]

mang that some sick azz *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited*!!!!

[Ryan.]

Too bad that intake wont work on my Z
Mine is about 5 inches wide :w00t:


is that power valved? looks just like my yz power valve cover haha

[Bryan Raffa]

Hey did you get your PISTON yet? getting ready to go to Swain tec to get a few coated....

[honda250sx]

Added a little red to the carburetor by having the RDZ racing float bowl anodized. Looks really killer. Also added a nice magnetic moose racing float bowl drain bolt.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3257.jpg

Had this in the works for some bit. I had another member copy the dimensions of there OMF skid plate for the tri-z. This was bent up by me and welded by a good friend. It is .190 thick stainless steel. Never will rust :) This will be going to the polishers for some bling treatment. I almost forgot about making this until I seen one pop up on ebay this week.

Original OMF
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/d35d_1.jpg

My Stainless Steel version - triangles only tack welded at this point
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3270.jpg

Finished and ready for polishing
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3271.jpg

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

magnetic float bowl bolt?? are you running metallic fuel or something??

[honda250sx]

:crazy: ummmmmmm no:crazy:

Just there to pick up anything if it gets past the filter....

[NOS_350X]

is that power valved? looks just like my yz power valve cover haha


Yes it is a Pv cyl.

[Dirtcrasher]

Jeff, I have a TON of 1/4" and 5/16" aluminum plate if you need some for a skid plate or something?? I can cut you off whatever you need....

Looking nicer every day!!

[Bryan Raffa]

we'll whats the scoop? where you at on this?

[honda250sx]

Engine arrived safe and sound. Time to TEAR DOWN, powdercoat, install bearings, Ship crank to Sprocky and WAIT FOR THE TOP END:)

B.Raffa. No sign of pumps yet :(

[Bryan Raffa]

thats great! ... and not so great...:lol:

[honda250sx]

Well this has been bullshitted about many times. Lots of guys always wondering will it work. Will it fit. MoshMan was the first to attemp and he banged it out MINT! Rob is surely no dummy on tri-z's so I bit the bullet and ordered a new TUSK wave rotor.

Compared to stock the TUSK is just about 1/8th inch less in diameter.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3323.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3325.jpg

The bolt pattern is just a hair off. Minimal filing is required.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3324.jpg

Bolted to the stock tri-z hub
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3326.jpg

Eyeballed up on the G-Force Banshee +4 axle.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3327.jpg

I need to fire up the CNC and crank out some .350' spacers for the rear caliper alignment.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3329.jpg

What finished product should look like. Alot better than shitty looking stock.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3328.jpg

[Mosh]

Awesome,it is looking good.That will also fit the front too.Some I had to file a little,others went right on.

Hey if you make some nice stainless spacers,run me a few too,if you dont mind.

The front is a direct swap.No spacers needed.

[tecat-z]

Very nice, and prolly a bit lighter.

[tri-Z ripper]

very very nice thanks for the idea!!

[honda250sx]

Spent the evening mocking up my OMF "remake" skid plate for my Tri-Z. This is out of .190 stainless plate. Welded by a good buddy of mine. Really happy how it turned out. Going to powdercoat the side you see tomorrow night.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3330.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3331.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3332.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3333.jpg

Got the MONSTER wrench in today's mail. Wow totally impressed. Cost me more to ship then to buy off ebay. $9.99 auction. $11.00 shipping. Haha. Worked so fantastic. Always kicks major ass to have the right tool for the job!

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3334.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3335.jpg

[BigGreenMachine]

Cannot believe this thread is not in the top shelf subforum yet.

That wrench kicks ass! haha

[honda250sx]

BMG apparently you have to kiss some serious ass to get in there or something. I guess I haven't spent enough money and time on this build to do so.

[Tri-ZNate]

Definatly comming together, slowely yet surely. I think I'm going to go with the yz490 OMF engine skid. Raffa has used them and they are close to bolting up if they arent a direct swap.

[pickleweasel_00]

Gotta question for ya, where did you get the grommets for the airbox cover?

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3332.jpg

[DeePa]

they are avail oem yamaha

[honda250sx]

Definatly comming together, slowely yet surely. I think I'm going to go with the yz490 OMF engine skid. Raffa has used them and they are close to bolting up if they arent a direct swap.

Yeah I know its not a build of epic proportions in 20 days or something of that nature. But take a look at the big picture here. 90% of the powdercoating was done by myself. Takes alot of time and prep work. All of the parts used to rebuild EVERYTHING is OEM yamaha. This Z has the finest of upgrades. All the bells and whistles. All of which cost serious CASH. Thats what takes time.

[Tri-ZNate]

Yeah I know its not a build of epic proportions in 20 days or something of that nature. But take a look at the big picture here. 90% of the powdercoating was done by myself. Takes alot of time and prep work. All of the parts used to rebuild EVERYTHING is OEM yamaha. This Z has the finest of upgrades. All the bells and whistles. All of which cost serious CASH. Thats what takes time.

Oh i know it. We have all followed the build and seen the cash the Z has had poured on it. You've done an amazing job with that Z and never half assed anything, always went the extra distance to rebuild everything. It'll be in the top tier thing here shortly, just some PMs need to be sent

[honda250sx]

Today the front TUSK typhoon rotor showed up and I knew it was going to so I jetted outta work early to come home and play with the Z. Went on just as I expected. Flawless. Super trick and easy.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3338.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3339.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3340.jpg

[honda250sx]

Powdercoated this today and got the nice OMF sticker on there and bolted her up with some nice stainless. Looks wicked!!

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3349.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3350.jpg

[twgranger]

Very Nice Work!

[tri-Z ripper]

Holy crap is that the one you made for yourself or did OMF make you that as well i only thought they made the swingarm skidder? can you make more?

[honda250sx]

Ripper - I was informed by Daraugh "Bones" Flynn at OMF performance in riverside,ca that they STILL make this engine skidplate after I had made this from stainless! He was unaware that they were still offering these skidplates until I inquired about them so he asked the fab guys. So I ordered up my rear swingarm skidplate then instead. You can still get both of these for your TRI-Z. They require about 2-3 weeks lead time.

I will not be making any of these. I just pretty much made one for myself.

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Wow, just wow. This trike is just awesome! I can't wait to see the finished pics.

[clutchcargo]

By the way, to order the tusk rotors, what bike did you use for the parts interchange so the rotors fit. Banshee rear? or Honda front? My rear rotor is bent a little and I may order one as a replacement.

[honda250sx]

04 YFZ 450 rear rotors. Just have to file out the bolt pattern just a touch and they go on real easy. Both the rear and and the front utilize that same rotor. The rear you will have to space over accordingly to accept the brake caliper

[250rfan]

Powdercoated this today and got the nice OMF sticker on there and bolted her up with some nice stainless. Looks wicked!!

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3349.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3350.jpg


Real good workmanship here,,,,:w00t: ,,,,just wondering tho, do you need a hole in the skid plate for draining the oil?

[clutchcargo]

04 YFZ 450 rear rotors. Just have to file out the bolt pattern just a touch and they go on real easy. Both the rear and and the front utilize that same rotor. The rear you will have to space over accordingly to accept the brake caliper

Thanks! I appreciate it.

[honda250sx]

Rfan. you bet. that will be handled with a knockout after i install the motor to locate where it needs to be installed at.

Cargo. No problem

[honda250sx]

Anyone interested in Oversized Tri-Z radiators???? Check out the new product forum!

[honda250sx]

Scored this earlier in the week. Seller posted this on ebay and I wanted to snag it before it went for some ridiculous fortune I didnt want to pay. Seller removed it from the bay and was more than generous with the price.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3411.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3410.jpg


Got it mounted up along with mosh's repro shrouds. Looks pretty killer! Definetly happy about how its coming together. Finishing touches will be the engine and shock for the rear. The brand new OMF swingarm skidplate thats coming from BONES! And of course a cosmicquads seat!

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3412.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3414.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/DSCN3413.jpg

[maggiesboy]

that trike looks really sharp, keep it up :D

[Eric250R]

It never ceases to amaze me when I click on the top tier link. Another awesome build.:beer

[honda250sx]

Recieved my brand new OMF skidplate in the mail today from Bones @ OMF. These guys are top notch people to deal with. I knew from the second that I spoke with them that I had nothing to worry about. The plate took a few weeks to make. As they do not carry these in stock. It had to be cut, bent up and welded. I am VERY pleased with its look and quality. The welding on it is beautiful.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3447.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3448-1.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3449-1.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3451-1.jpg

Installation was a snap! OMF provided all the necessary hardware to bolt it right up. It took about 10 minutes to bolt up. No cutting,grinding,filing,tweaking or bending required. No bullchit at all. Bolt up and your done. Just the way it should be. If you guys are considering purchasing one of these for your Z your crazy if you don't. These things are well worth the cash.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3452-1.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3453-1.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3454-1.jpg

[HEAD09]

i didnt see how much before.....and the bike is sick:drool:

[honda250sx]

$99.95 + shipping from Cali.

[DeePa]

jeff, how much clearance do you have under the sprocket? my chain/sprocket rubs...but its been through a bunch of rocks too...

[honda250sx]

Mike, I must now go look. You have my curiousity. I will BRB and let you know.

[honda250sx]

Mike, About an inch and sixteenth.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3457.jpg

[DeePa]

is that at the tightest position for the chain? I remember going up a tooth on the front sprocket and having some minor issues. I think the tighter the chain, the less clearance. Its must be nice to have nice new parts. I kick the *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* outta mine and i just call the rubbing an extra chain tensioner

Thanks

[honda250sx]

Mike I truly wont know until the motor is in and the new chain and front is fit. I plan on starting with a 14-40 ratio. Thats a NOS 40 tooth in the rear right now. Thanks for the heads up Mike I appreciate that!! . Im sure the boys @ OMF would be glad to rework it if I was unhappy. They seem the really go the extra mile.

[Youngrasher]

This is a really nice tri-z, is there any progress on this rebuild?

[cody2]

That tri-z is sick, any progress ?

[honda250sx]

It is currently awaiting an engine. Which is being built. It will not be disapointing. I will be scared to ride it. HAHAHA.

[clutchcargo]

Yeah, it looks great! I would be afraid to ride it also. The first scratch is just gonna kill ya!

[njeffery]

WOW! I can tell it will be the best Z ever!:cool: :beer

[honda250sx]

Well I received these pictures from Tammy Mosh today. I am blown away. Superior job. When it comes to seats. Theres only one name Cosmic Quads.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/jeff2800.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/jeff3800.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/tri-z%20project/jeff1800.jpg

[honda250sx]

Hate to say it. But there is Zero traffic up here in top tier builds. Might be the place for things to go when they get finished. Mine's no where near... Just a thought.

[honda250sx]

Well finally had sometime to tinker with the Z project. I am currently in the process of moving from the Western Ny area down to Cranberry Township, PA. That is the reason for hardly any updates in awhile. I recieved my seat from Tammy on saturday, but was too busy kicking ass at the local grass drags to open it. I got around to opening it up today and mounting the new seat rubbers and seat latch. I took it downstairs and slapped it on the Z. What can I say about Cosmic Quads seats. Pictures dont do it justice. Phenomenal work. Awfully comfy as well. Thanks again Tammy and Rob.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3485.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3486.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3488.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3487.jpg

[Dammit!]

Awesome Z and the seat is perfect match for it. Tammy does awesome work doesn't she?

[WIkid500]

WOW that is simply amazing. I just figured out what's going on my 200x for a seat. Imagine yours but blue and the words 200x on the side. Love the black gripper top, thanks for the Idea! Top shelf build here. Very nice.

[honda250sx]

Awesome Z and the seat is perfect match for it. Tammy does awesome work doesn't she?

Doug, hell yes she does killer work. It fits perfect. Looks perfect. I am super stoked about it. It has brand new foam from hi-flite!

[honda250sx]

Well my WORKS shock should be here this week sometime. Its going to be a thing of beauty. I cannot wait to get her in and see how nice it is. In the meantime I have machined some custom banjo bolts for my master cylinders and calipers. These are pretty trick. They have been anodized for corrosion resistance.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3496.jpg

[Dirtcrasher]

Well my WORKS shock should be here this week sometime. Its going to be a thing of beauty. I cannot wait to get her in and see how nice it is. In the meantime I have machined some custom banjo bolts for my master cylinders and calipers. These are pretty trick. They have been anodized for corrosion resistance.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/DSCN3496.jpg



YOU !#$@!#&*%! :lol: - Those things came out SAWEEEEEEEET!! Apparently they're an alloy? Not 6061 I imagine :naughty:

Great stuff Jeff :D

[tri-Z ripper]

wow man top NOTCH of course!! ill take a few in silver please :rolleyes:

[honda250sx]

Thanks guys. Its been super tough moving away from home. This is still at my parents place. I need to bring it to my new townhouse and get wrenching. I need something to come home too!