New Project... Need suggestions for build !

[sandpuppi101]

Well I have too say that me building the ATC 600X was actually a really fun build this year ,totally beating down the ATC 350X custom I built last year.Anyway's last year I asked this same question and just wanted to get some input on what you guy's would build as a one of a kind custom trike.This year I have too say that I was totally impressed with the 450's ,and I have an idea Derrick and Jason and others are in there garage's plotting up more sick build's for next year also..This to me has become something that I believe pushes everyone else to come up with something more inovative and custom ,and it's alot of fun too see what we all bring to the table.Now with that being said, I personally would like too come up with again something that has'nt been done yet. I 'm interested in something practical I would like too do another 4 stroke but,a 2 stroke would also be cool.
Don't even suggest a crotchrocket or big road bike conversion,that's not me.I was kinda thinking about a KTM maybe this time.My root's are Honda but I would go for something like that,no Kawi or Yami's though.I know that me and a few other member's have come up with smaller build idea's but I'm looking at my option's.As for if I want a drag trike or a mx or trail trike I guess it's all up in the air until I get the machine picked out..Let me know what you'd like to see or what you'd build ??Serious suggestions and opinion's Please !;)

[x.system]

Suzuki LTR trike hasn't been done yet :D

[BigGreenMachine]

Nor has a 640 KTM trike or a big Husaberg.

[chris200x]

I'd like to see some sort of 2 stroke motor stuffed into a 200x. Parts for those X's are plentiful and cheap.

[84honda200s]

put a kowasaki ltd 750 in that thing. i dont think its bin done yet. to bad you cant find a trashed bosa with a good powerplant. now that would be one scary trike to ride. a 1200 or 1300 cc turbo charged trike. :drool: :drool:

[seadoo650]

I'd like to see some sort of 2 stroke motor stuffed into a 200x. Parts for those X's are plentiful and cheap.

I second Chris's idea. A 83-85 200X with like a CR125 motor, ATC250R front suspension (or newer CR inverts), TRX rear swinger and suspension. This would be BADASS.

[oldsking86]

How about a supermoto trike using a KTM like BGM mentioned... those things are freaking sweet!

[firefirefire90]

I second Chris's idea. A 83-85 200X with like a CR125 motor, ATC250R front suspension (or newer CR inverts), TRX rear swinger and suspension. This would be BADASS.

Why not build one with the modern XC200 KTM motor? Modern day 200R??

[McDerry]

3 wheel drive!

[honda_atc200es]

heres a way out there idea, how about a trike theat has 2 wheels in the front and 1 in the back, that is something i would like to see, curious as to how it would perform compared to a regular trike

in order to do that you would need to use a quad frame to start though

[iowarotax]

Ive had serious thoughts about turning a KTM 500 into a trike. I think the tank and overall look is old-school badass. This is a 85 500. The engine is actually smaller than a 250R engine.

[Mosh]

A 200x with a cr 125 would be cool.I actually have a running 98 cr 125 engine here.
Also A Raptor 700 powered trike,,,
Or a far fetch note stuff a Harley motor in a trike chassis??????
I also still would like to see a newer crf 250 motor stuck in a R chassis,,and they have dual pipes...

[Dammit!]

heres a way out there idea, how about a trike theat has 2 wheels in the front and 1 in the back, that is something i would like to see, curious as to how it would perform compared to a regular trike

in order to do that you would need to use a quad frame to start though

Dirtwheels did that back around 1988. They took a Yamaha BW200 two wheeler and put a quad conversion on the front.

[Derrick Adams]

I've been considering that 200X/CR125 build for a couple years. I think that would be a cool build.

Roger, you already know what i'm building.

[Derrick Adams]

Heres a 125X hybrid for you to stare at!

[honda_atc200es]

I've been considering that 200X/CR125 build for a couple years. I think that would be a cool build.

Roger, you already know what i'm building.

that looks liek my pitbike but with one more wheel lol, you gotta love the stuff xtreme churns out

[sandpuppi101]

Oh yeah Derrick,I'm with that also.I'm deffintally building one of the one's we talked about ,that's a given..That should be a fun build for both of us,and of course I ain't gonna copy you but ,I'm gonna do something along the same line's.I like the KTM idea already,Different yet unique.

[j.Lawson]

heres a way out there idea, how about a trike theat has 2 wheels in the front and 1 in the back, that is something i would like to see, curious as to how it would perform compared to a regular trike

in order to do that you would need to use a quad frame to start though


KTM is doing somthing like this now, its on pge. 11 of the august dirtwheels.
It looks more geared for street though. its a very neat design though...

[RedRider_AK]

KTM MXC300 engine in a Honda 200X frame. That would be mighty fast and mighty ballsy.

[Dustin87R]

Suzuki LTR trike hasn't been done yet :D

I'd also like to see an ltr trike.

[firefirefire90]

If your going with the 125 in the 200x chassis...why not try to re-create a 200R? It would be way sick indeed.

[oldsking86]

I have been throwing around the idea of using a KTM motor around also.. those things make some serious power, especially the new ones! kinda pricey but it would be a hell of a trike!

[Jason Hall]

I would love to see a crf 250 powered 250-r or 200x, but the engines are so expensive.

I have an Idea that I wont let out yet. It's a 250r based bike for my oldest boy with a 4 stroke heart. Not a crf 250 though. I will also be building a custom frame suspended atc70 before next year. I thinkin of starting from scratch with the frame.

I think Seedbump should pluck the engine from the new green machine & build a 4 stroke Tecate :beer :beer

[ATC-Eric]

Heck, who says it has to be a sport bike? Why not think about something big in a Big Red? You could build an extreme trail bike............

[RedRider_AK]

Heck, who says it has to be a sport bike? Why not think about something big in a Big Red? You could build an extreme trail bike............

Make a "Gorilla Axle" style mud-trike with extended swingarm and forks for a super-tall lift!

Driving it on hard surfaces may be troublesome. :lol:

[McDerry]

Make a "Gorilla Axle" style mud-trike with extended swingarm and forks for a super-tall lift!

Driving it on hard surfaces may be troublesome. :lol:


Personally I'd Build the ultimate trail trike.

Use a newer sport engine with a reverse gear and frame (300EX sounds like a decent canidate).

Build My own triple tree's and head on the frame.

Run the chain to a jackshaft, and run a chain up to a setup on the front like on this 2x2 bike made of a TRX125.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/docs/docDownload.aspx?guid=B3D902A9-9E81-47A1-B073-75CDDD852B0F&webtag=rokon

http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/docs/docDownload.aspx?guid=BAE74779-3138-45C9-89A8-CF93F96540BD&webtag=rokon

http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/docs/docDownload.aspx?guid=B3556520-C554-4F26-B993-6AB0A3EA98DF&webtag=rokon

For a front hub, I'd Probally machine out a 4/110 rear hub to accept a piece of 1 1/2 sch 80 steel pipe, so as to replicate a front hub and be able to have a boss big enough for a bearing to be fitted turned into the ends. Also one would machine the hub to be offset by 1" so as to axcept a modern ATV rim.

Id also Find the largest and widest Rim I could to mount up the largest ATV tire I could. I don't Know about you guys, But a 3x3 trike with a set of 26x12 gators with over 1.2" of lug impresses the hell out of me for a trail machine.


Another advantage of the jackshaft is you can engineer in some more reduction by having a larger tooth count on the driven gear on the shaft then on the motor. in turn you could keep a superlow first gear that would be usable as a utility animal with the clutch instead of having to just slip the clutch.

[Tri-ZNate]

a KTM525 hybrid would be sick!

[RedRider_AK]

Personally I'd Build the ultimate trail trike.
Use a newer sport engine with a reverse gear and frame (300EX sounds like a decent canidate).
Build My own triple tree's and head on the frame.
Run the chain to a jackshaft, and run a chain up to a setup on the front like on this 2x2 bike made of a TRX125.


The only questioni left is how are you going to get the output to the front of the trike unless you're using a machine with an output shaft already there (the TRX300 comes to mind).

I hear you about the Rokon-style front drive. Riding that beast would be rough as hell though, no suspension and big thick heavy tires.... :drool:

Also, the "Biggest" tire you could mount would either be the 29.5 inch Outlaw or the new 30 inch tall Mudlite XXXL. Those would be MONSTROUS on a trail bike powered by a 200S engine or something. That would definetely kick balls.

Also, on that TRX125/trail bike thing, it looks like the front drive chain is a #35 chain, the same stuff they use on the Kitty Cat snowmobiles? That seems REALLY weak, any decent amount of stress (mud or a hill) will snap that thing like a rubber band.

[oldsking86]

I wonder how stable a tall trike would be in the mud though? haha unless you can ride a wheelie all the way through it'll be tough! but really freaking fun lol

[oldsking86]

Hey anybody remember the Sandsation videos of glamis that where on vhs?

[McDerry]

The only questioni left is how are you going to get the output to the front of the trike unless you're using a machine with an output shaft already there (the TRX300 comes to mind).

I hear you about the Rokon-style front drive. Riding that beast would be rough as hell though, no suspension and big thick heavy tires.... :drool:

Also, the "Biggest" tire you could mount would either be the 29.5 inch Outlaw or the new 30 inch tall Mudlite XXXL. Those would be MONSTROUS on a trail bike powered by a 200S engine or something. That would definetely kick balls.

Also, on that TRX125/trail bike thing, it looks like the front drive chain is a #35 chain, the same stuff they use on the Kitty Cat snowmobiles? That seems REALLY weak, any decent amount of stress (mud or a hill) will snap that thing like a rubber band.


You get the front output off the rear output via a jack shaft. The engine powers the jack shaft, the jack shaft has two sprockest one going to the rear the other going up to the front.
check out this Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0CaMF7rTTg) I've seen this bike in person its a small tank. Note how they run the front drive off the rear drive.

And thats #40 chain on the trx125 bike going to the front wheel, and the guy used a timing belt to run from the rear of the bike to the front as a safety precaution. Id personally use some more #50 (520 roller chain is the same pitch by the way) or equivalent and make a guard for it.

Also note its fully suspended, front and rear. Dry weight of

TRX125 2x2(297lbs) next to a Rokon(208lbs)
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/docs/docDownload.aspx?guid=C20B575C-8E2B-49AF-B135-3A21131EBBFB&webtag=rokon


300cc Thumper churning some huge tires, with all three spinning on the slick stuff, Gnarly!

[RedRider_AK]

Jeez. That thing looks badass from the front! I'd hate to have it coming at me!

[honda_atc200es]

if it is going to be tall it has to be wide too but not super wide because the last thing you want to lose is the trike trademark narrowness and tight turning

[RedRider_AK]

That's why I said "hard terrain may pose a problem" because it'll be tall and narrow and very unstable.

[McDerry]

How much clearance do you honestly need.

How much do you guys have under your 200 series bikes??

I easily have 8 inches at the frame on my 200s, those rokons have 15 at there frame.

I'd probally aim for 12 inches frame height and call it good.

You wouldnt need all the height to get over an obstacle as you could shift all your weight forward to teeter the bike over the obstacle. Let the front tire drag the bike till the rear tires grab the obstacle. Then its away you go.

Mind you your seat height will still be relatively low in comparison to most other 4x4 atv's. Also you could do wider at the wheels aslong as its not wider on the whole vehicle. When a wheel clips an object it tends to climb around the object, when the body hits its plain stuck.

[sandpuppi101]

AHHHH', I don't know about the 3x3 fella's.Thing does look pretty sick tho,I gotta tell ya that.Maybe one of you other guy's should take the plunge and do a 3x3 build though .You should make a thread on making that machine.I am more a less thinking about ,MX or drag or trail.Does anyboby have more info on the KTM's,the Bigger KTM's.

[BigGreenMachine]

Hit up www.supermotojunkie.com for info on reliability and hop ups. The LC4 motor is very popular with the street tards over there.

Also look into the exotic Supermoto makes like VOR. Sexy aluminum frame, would be a bad to the bone conversion.

James

[oldsking86]

Man I hope somebody get's this conversion because talk about a revolutionary step for trikes! a KTM powered monster! :w00t:

[riverrat]

Some things I thought I migth do one day.

RM80 conversion
3X3 trike
Harley powered drag trike

[nouseforaname90]

heres a way out there idea, how about a trike theat has 2 wheels in the front and 1 in the back, that is something i would like to see, curious as to how it would perform compared to a regular trike

in order to do that you would need to use a quad frame to start though

http://www.go-t-rex.com/high_resolution_pictures.asp?nav=en-us

Like this?

Man these things are SWEET.. I would hate to see the price tag though... :cry:

[atctim]

I would suggest a big old plush trail / utility trike - based off the Big Red or SX. Something huge, and comfy and practical. Put a big thumper in it like a utility 400 or 500cc.

Maybe even experiment with independent rear suspension. Graff on a newer quad rear end. and maybe use newer utility quad rear fenders for a real unique look. I can tell you this - those Big Red frames are T_O_U_G_H!!!!!! I've never seen one cracked or broken. Would be a great starting place.

In closing - I love my "sporty" Big Red - just wish it had a little more power now and again. This would be the ultimate build in my book!

Just my 2 cents.

[DIGGER DOG]

crf 150 r little unicam pit trike

[oldsking86]

Some things I thought I migth do one day.

RM80 conversion
3X3 trike
Harley powered drag trike

The idea has been somewhat thought out already
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-Custom-Harley-Davidson-ATV_W0QQitemZ290134298390QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6726QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[strongrightleg]

how about a tecate 450?

[Orangecnty250r]

That YTZ 450 is one of the sweetest things built EVER . If I had a choice Besides my updated tiger I plan on building I would go with.......hmmmm

The suzuki idea as mentioned above (I have though of that one many times)....I would love to see a performance suzuki three wheeler built as if they were to build a performance model in 86 (kinda of stock looking ...Yellow plastics with the blue motor. A stock Blue quadzilla 500 motor would be super sweet.

Iowarotax's idea is nice as well KTM bigbore.....NICE!!!!

[sandpuppi101]

Well I gotta say that I have had lot's to think about with your guy's idea's.I was at a supermoto race yesterday and was verrry heavily checking out the KTM's and talking to a couple of the mechanic's.Not 100% sure yet but this is kinda what I'm thinking.Kinda leaning toward getting a big bore KTM,not sure which size yet and also desinging a matching pit trike.Now I think that would be sick,still not 100% sure though.

[84honda200s]

sounds like it would be pretty wicked man.

[oldsking86]

If I remember correctly the 535 is a great place to start is with the dirtbike, like a 530 (its the new model, but something close to that).. The supermotos are bigger but im sure expensive to get

[riverrat]

heres a way out there idea, how about a trike theat has 2 wheels in the front and 1 in the back, that is something i would like to see, curious as to how it would perform compared to a regular trike

in order to do that you would need to use a quad frame to start though

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1864311023023723302

there ya go!

[riverrat]

The idea has been somewhat thought out already
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-Custom-Harley-Davidson-ATV_W0QQitemZ290134298390QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6726QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's not a trikw though ;)

I figure someone must have done it, but that wouldn't stop me from tryin too :)

[iowarotax]

Found this over at the KTM site. Its got a KTM 550 in it. It looks pretty sweet to me.

[BigGreenMachine]

That is Moose53's Tecate. Its one trick machine in every aspect.

[Jolly Roger]

I think the KTM powered trike is a great idea. The Polaris Outlaw 450 and 525 are KTM powered, ans soon KTM will be coming out with thier own quad. I would use the 525 with the IRS (independent) rear suspension.

[200xfreek]

how bout a 85-86 200x bike with a 4-6 inch stretch,250r frontend and honda 450powerplant TURBOCHARGED or even without the charger. Then you can have reverse,electric start, and a 6 speed. Hell for that matter you can do it with a built 400ex motor also. The 2 stroke 125 wont have the torque to pull some of us big guys. 6'3" 215lbs with no riding gear.