New addition to the family!! (((ACTION PICS))) 56K beware!!

[Nick_R_23]

Had a posting up on craigslist asking for any trikes or parts, and this guy emails me, he said he had one that the front tire leaked and it 'didnt turn over but almost would'. Didnt have the time to work on it, so he said if I came and got it that it was mine. FREE!!!! Cant beat that lol. :w00t: Thought it was a 185 or something smaller. Turned out to be a 1985 ATC200S. Not too bad of shape, but definately more rust then I ever like to see. Has a Maier rear fender and what appears to be 250R rear hubs and rims.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-012F.jpg
Theres those damn tires again!!! There everywhere!!! :banned: Brand new set though.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-013F.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-016F.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-015F-1.jpg
Can anyone make out what this is on the rear carrier? Theres a piece that goes around the carrier that clamps on to it, and then this peice bolts to it, but I have no idea what its for. Homemade, maybe? :wondering

Also, it ended up turning over, IDK why he said it didnt. I bought a new stator coil and it gets spark now, but it wont start. I cleaned the carb, checked just about everything. Ill screw with it more later in the day. I got it home around 7pm and have been working non stop on it, I took those pics at 4:30am. Its now 5:15. I need sleep!!!! :lol:

So what all do you guys think about it? Any ideas why it wont start?

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[Jim mac]

cant beat free!!

[JohnRaven.exe]

You just need more starting fluid!!! :D Nice snag, man. Good luck with getting her running!

[DarkestGKnight]

nice find, looks like a great project, is it getting good compression? maybe the timings off? try some gas in the carb.

[team-red-rider]

when some people say wont turn over...they mean on its own power...ive come across that plent of times

[blue27]

Nice score I will take any thing for free! lol

Looks like 200x hubs and 250R rims if there 8 inch most likely 83-84 250R. The piece in the rear is part of a trailer hitch just the rest is missing.

[Nick_R_23]

Thanks for all the responces guys, I cant wait to ride it. I dont have the compression tester with me at the moment (kinda disappeared when we got a new toolbox), but I will try and find it.

That piece is a trailer hitch? How dows it work? I couldnt get all of it in the pic, the brake lever was in the way, but it is like a pipe inside, that is mounted to a plate. You might be able to make out what im trying to say?? :wondering

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[84honda200s]

sweet deal man !!! free is always good. i would think thats some kinda hommade jimmied up hitch of some sort. if you need anything for it give me a halla. i have some 200s parts left lol.

[RedRider_AK]

You're right, those Mud Puppy tires ARE everywhere. I remember my first quad (Quadrunner 250 hardtail) had those on it. As did my ATC 110. LOL.

[Nick_R_23]

Yeah if you look close you can see them on the rear of my brother's 185. Im gonna go get back to work and see if I can make this thing RUN! :w00t: Ill try and get a better pic of the hitch or whatever it is.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[Nick_R_23]

Well I finally found the compression tester, and I swear that this motor must not have rings in it or something. 65 psi!!!! It went up to 90 when I put oil in the cylinder, but no wonder it wouldnt run!!

So now that I know its getting gas, spark, air, but no compression, what should I look for? Is there something that might be causing the low compression, or am I gonna have to tear the top end apart on this also?

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[DarkestGKnight]

if your gasket is worn it will make the motor lose compression try that but your best bet is to just redo the top end. goodluck.

[RedRider_AK]

Ouch, 65 psi. That's terrible. Do you hear a leak around the head when you put a spark plug in the head and then crank it real slow?

[Nick_R_23]

Well Ive tried everything to start this thing, and Ive finally given in to the fact that it needs a rebuild. :lol: I think Ill stick with a topend, since the rest of the motor seems to be fine.

One more question, could the rings really lower the compression by that much, or is it more likely that a gasket is blown? The timing and valves are adjusted right so I dont think it is either of those. Ill probly get both gaskets and rings new since its apart anyway.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[DarkestGKnight]

i think the gasket will lower it that much not to sure tho. yeah your better off getting both the parts so you dont have any problems in the furture.

[Nick_R_23]

Ok, I went ahead and tore into it, and its a lot better then I expected it to be. Its definately had a top end done before, but if it was done right is questionable. MORE PICS!!!! :pics:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-012F-1.jpg
The next unsuspecting victim rolls unaware into the garage......

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-014F-1.jpg
Without missing a beat, hungry wreches and rachets immeadiately start ripping the beast to shreads......

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-015F-2.jpg
Unable to defend itself, the beast is slowly devoured, leaving behind only and empty carcass.......

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-016F-1.jpg
Here is a great delicacy, the heart of the raging beast......

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-018F.jpg
Which is soon claimed by the leader of the pack, a large 1/2" drive craftsman......

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-017F.jpg
Soon, all that remains are bits and pieces, scattered randomly across the scene, left to rot in the heat of the blazing hot flood lamps......

:D

Well Im taking a wild guess here, but I think the rings are a bit worn out...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-019F.jpg
The blow by went past both rings, but they feel like they are new?? Should I get new ones or clean up the piston and reuse the rings? The piston is gonna get used again, feels great in the cylinder.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[team-red-rider]

new rings and a hone

[Nick_R_23]

I forgot one pic last night, can anyone figure out what this is????

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-013F-1.jpg

You can see that in the right side of it, its cut at an angle. I think that its stock or at least aftermarket because the cuts and the welds have a 'factory' look.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[84honda200s]

idk man beats me. looks like something to tow with. maybe to put a chain threw ?

[Nick_R_23]

I took a look at the piston and rings again, and it turns out that they had the top ones switched, and one was upside down. :crazy: Theres just some people....

Would this be why it had so little PSI?? I checked all the gasket surfaces, no leaks, the rings (although misplaced) were brand new, piston is tight in the cylinder, valves look good. I just dont know why it only had 65 pounds.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[hondaatcvabeach]

That is a sweet deal.....................Can I have it LOL!!

[riverrat]

I forgot one pic last night, can anyone figure out what this is????

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-013F-1.jpg

You can see that in the right side of it, its cut at an angle. I think that its stock or at least aftermarket because the cuts and the welds have a 'factory' look.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

Thats a wheelie bar holder.....come on now......

Hey, don't go by feel. Get the right instruments, and make sure it all fits together they way Honda wants it too, and you will probably never have to rebuild it again.

Some where on this forum is a link to all the Honda manuals. Check the bore, and the size of the piston, and make sure the rings have the right ring gap.

[Nick_R_23]

Ive been so busy I havent had the time to mic anything out. Between working, my truck, the polaris, and now this, I dont have much time (or money) to run up to the shop anymore. Plus we got a new toolbox, and I cant find half the stuff we used to have anymore. I thought it was supposed to make finding tools easier??? :lol: I have the manual for it.

Rest assured though, its gonna be done right. :beer I just wasnt expecting to have another project all of a sudden.

I guess while the motors waiting to get finished, I should take the rest of it and pressure wash it, its covered in crap, feels all sandy and absolutely will not come off easy. Just rolls around on the surface.

Plus it needs an exhaust, the part that goes into the muffler was soooo rusty that it broke right off just when I touched it.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[bigreddaddy]

I think you found the problem with the rings being installed the wrong way. But I think you should get new ones and do a light hone as long as you check the cylinder out real good. That way you will have no worries. Besides, rings aren't that expensive. GL.

[RedRider_AK]

Yeah, if you install rings incorrectly they don't seal under compression. But I guess you knew that already. New rings (or a high-comp Wiseco piston :naughty:) and a good hone job will fix that thing right up. Maybe you'll have the head ported and polished while it's off anyway? ;)

[Nick_R_23]

I ordered the gaskets and rings from Hyperparts, they should be here shortly, then Ill put it all together and fire this beast up!!!! :w00t:

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[icp4life162005]

I forgot one pic last night, can anyone figure out what this is????

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-013F-1.jpg

You can see that in the right side of it, its cut at an angle. I think that its stock or at least aftermarket because the cuts and the welds have a 'factory' look.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

Maybe for some kind of drag? Like for a baseball field or a roller? o seen something like it before, it was a grass roller i believe 50 pound about 4 feet end to end and had 2 posts coming from the side going to a special hitch that a pin went sideways through. Here what I mean. I think for rolling seed or something?

|=[----]=|
| |
| |
/ \
/ \
/_________ \
|{ }|
|{________}|
So it can pivot over bumps.

[icp4life162005]

I was thinking of an old culdapacker in my last post. but here is what i mean except the "arms" were closer and connected by a pin. http://www.jimwcoleman.com/photoblog/042906%20grass%20roller.jpg

[Nick_R_23]

IT RUNS!!!!!!!! I got my gaskets and rings today, and spent the last few hours putting it together and cleaning it out. It started up on the first pull after I fixed a bad ground. Drives great, but like any free machine it needs some work still. Mostly a new exhaust, chain and sprockets, tubes for the rear tires, and some small stuff. Sounds like the timing might be off a link though, may be just the exhaust leak. Ill post pics when I get home, I dont have the camera with me.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[Dammit!]

I don't understand why people put tubes in atv tires. You're still going to get a flat at some point. With a tube you have to take the tube out to fix the flat (or use some kind of liquid sealer). With a tubeless tire you just plug it. Takes two minutes. If those tires won't hold air it's not because you need tubes. It's because those tires suck. ATV tires should not be super stiff. The stiff ones never seal around the bead worth a damn and guess what? They still go flat so there's no point in using such a stiff tire.

Seriously. Get some decent tires made of a softer compound. It'll ride better and the flats will be easier to fix.

Edit: and replace the valve stems!

[Nick_R_23]

They have a sidewall hole (not a whether crack) and Id rather not patch them there, plus the tires are almost new tread so Id rather just fix them then buy a new set.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[Nick_R_23]

OK!!!! Now that Im home and I have a camera with me, heres the best part of owning any machine....playin' with it!!!

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-012F-2.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-013F-2.jpg

Couple of pics after its recent top end... looks a lot shinier now that I cleaned it up a bit.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-017F-1.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-016F-2.jpg

Took it a bit to warm up...it bogged when it tried to pull itself up.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-018F-1.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-019F-1.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-015F-3.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-014F-2.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-020F.jpg

They got better when it ran a little longer. Almost stood it up in the last pic!

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[Nick_R_23]

Then I got bored and tore up the driveway.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-021F.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-025F.jpg

LookfastatthebeautifulAlaskanscenery!! :D

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-024F.jpg

This thing can really kick stuff up!!! :w00t:

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[Rustytinhorn]

Is that "thing" on your rear axle welded on the bottom where it curls underneath.
It looks like a trailer hitch to me that has been cut off and bent underneath for some reason. I'll see if I can get a pic of what the ones that go on the chaindrive looks like.
Also, are you missing your skidplate?

[Rustytinhorn]

Unbolt it if you can with all that rust and get a few pics of it off of the bike and we'll be able to help you better.

[84honda200s]

man looks like a blast. ooo yea did i mention to ya i may be moving to alaska ? well if i didnt..... i may be moving to alaska. im getting sick of crappy ny. so i may be seeing ya. ill help ya rip up your driveway lol.

[Nick_R_23]

Is that "thing" on your rear axle welded on the bottom where it curls underneath.
It looks like a trailer hitch to me that has been cut off and bent underneath for some reason. I'll see if I can get a pic of what the ones that go on the chaindrive looks like.
Also, are you missing your skidplate?

Well I got a little more info on the hitch thing. The part where it bolts onto the carrier is actually stock -- its part of a 2 piece hitch. Its bolted and not welded. The other part where it curls underneath, is homemade, but I dont think it was cut off and bent because its too perfectly round, theres no way you could bend it that nicely. And I still have my skidplate, you can see it in the last wheelie pic, knda hard to make out.


man looks like a blast. ooo yea did i mention to ya i may be moving to alaska ? well if i didnt..... i may be moving to alaska. im getting sick of crappy ny. so i may be seeing ya. ill help ya rip up your driveway lol.

What are you waiting for?!?! Get up here man! My driveway needs all the ripping up it can get! Plus we found a new pit and that could use the trike touch also. :naughty: If you wanna, move right in across the road from me, you could have the whole left side to yourself. :lol:

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[84honda200s]

im going to look into moving up there. im hoping i can afford the move.