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muskegnmud
04-27-2003, 12:10 AM
It's gone...sold the Big Red this week. Went riding with my wife and daughter a couple of weeks ago, I on the trike, them on the quad. Mr. Big Red had trouble staying on three wheels that day.....flipped it over twice, once with me laying under it. Needless to say that was the end of Mr. Big Red in my life. :rolleyes: took one week to sell Mr. Big Red, got $1500 Can(about $ 1000 US) I'm missing that trike already. It was sweet other then the fact it only had three wheels....and no suspension!!!!pounded my guts out on the frozen trails at times. So what do I do now????? Any ideas???

wanta250r
04-27-2003, 12:41 AM
Buy a 200x it has good suspension. -D

ATCRYDER
04-27-2003, 12:42 AM
...buy a 250ES or 250SX...youll be glad you sold the 200ES after that.

Sell the Honda Quad too and move onto somethin better if youre using it for more than yard work. ;)

Chemical442
04-27-2003, 01:01 AM
It's gone...sold the Big Red this week. Mr. Big Red had trouble staying on three wheels that day.....flipped it over twice, once with me laying under it. Needless to say that was the end of Mr. Big Red in my life. .....It was sweet other then the fact it only had three wheels....

No offense, but it sounds like 3 wheels just aren't your thing. Maybe you would be happier on quads? I can't imaging flipping my trike twice in one day... Let alone selling it for said reasons.

Chemical442
04-27-2003, 01:02 AM
...buy a 250ES or 250SX...youll be glad you sold the 200ES after that.

Good point. An SX would be a good trike for you if you DID stay in the trike scene. :-D

muskegnmud
04-27-2003, 10:59 AM
I guess like with every thing else a guy should show a bit or respect for what he's riding on. It was just not a good day that day.....the ground was frozen, just a little bit of snow, perfect for donuts and driving like an idiot. I'll wait for things to settle down abit and then look for something with suspension

plkmonster2
04-27-2003, 01:49 PM
my dad was doing donuts is snow when his 200e ran. once it hooked up with the dirt, it flipped itself right over.

muskegnmud
04-27-2003, 10:32 PM
If I don't have a trike anymore why am I still looking thru here????? :( I think I'll start looking for alother one tommorrow..

Blazin350X
04-28-2003, 12:11 AM
Just to add to the flipping thing, riding like that was not caused by the fact you only had 3-wheels. I see quad riders getting cocky on those types of terrains all the time and flip them right over. It has nothing to do with the machine or number of wheels.
You have to be aware of your surroundings and riding abilities and the capability of your machine.
In my opinion if your having trouble keeping the shiny side up on a non-suspension bike, you are going to have more trouble on a fully suspended bike. Non-suspended bike are excellent to learn how to handle a bike properly, once you master a non-suspended bike then go to a fully suspended, you'll be a better rider and respect the bike more.
Just my 2 $

NOS_350X
04-28-2003, 01:04 AM
blazin you dont know what your talking about if you dont have suspension its going to bounce more and be more likely to flip also depending on the type of person you are quads are harder to flip than a trike

TimSr
04-28-2003, 01:25 PM
Unsuspended models roll much easier than suspended models. Im with Chemical on this one though. Maybe those front training wheels of the quad would be a better place to get started. As much as I love riding my Z, Id rather be on top of a quad than under a trike if those are your choices!

RacerRichie
04-28-2003, 03:50 PM
Quads flip as easy as trikes dudes!
May be its better to let the next guy get it.

TimSr
04-28-2003, 04:32 PM
Quads flip as easy as trikes dudes!
May be its better to let the next guy get it.

Not in any physics class Ive ever attended, dude.

Blazin350X
04-28-2003, 05:02 PM
Nos,
If you don't know what your doing on a 3-wheeler or 4-wheeler they both flip just as easy as as the other. That's what gave all our trikes a bad name in the first place rider era not bike, so don't tell me a trike flips easier than a quad, only if you can't handle one. I'll out ride and out manuever a quad all day long any time of the day for that matter and do it safer.
Ya, a unsuspended trike is more apt to flip than a suspended one jumping, but if you can't handle a unsuspended trike and learn how to properly ride a trike, going to suspended one is not going to make a difference. If you can master or handle an unsuspended trike then go to a suspended one will be a better rider. Just saying because you can't ride a unsuspended machine your going to go to a suspended one is stupid.
The way he was riding for the conditions has nothing to do with the bike and I don't care what kind of bike your on, riding like that, your going to end up on your head if you can't handle the bike period.

ATC crazy
04-28-2003, 05:32 PM
Nos,
If you don't know what your doing on a 3-wheeler or 4-wheeler they both flip just as easy as as the other. That's what gave all our trikes a bad name in the first place rider era not bike, so don't tell me a trike flips easier than a quad, only if you can't handle one. I'll out ride and out manuever a quad all day long any time of the day for that matter and do it safer.
Ya, a unsuspended trike is more apt to flip than a suspended one jumping, but if you can't handle a unsuspended trike and learn how to properly ride a trike, going to suspended one is not going to make a difference. If you can master or handle an unsuspended trike then go to a suspended one will be a better rider. Just saying because you can't ride a unsuspended machine your going to go to a suspended one is stupid.
The way he was riding for the conditions has nothing to do with the bike and I don't care what kind of bike your on, riding like that, your going to end up on your head if you can't handle the bike period.

I don't know what you've been smokin but a 4wheeler is a hell of a lot harder to flip than a 3wheeler. :? You have to be doing something pretty darn stupid to flip a quad...I could just stand on one foot-peg of my SX and get it on 2 wheels whithout leaning or pulling.

TimSr
04-28-2003, 05:59 PM
C'Mon guys, this is silly! Of course a trike rolls easier than a quad which is why a trike requires more practice to master. Its simple physics, otherwise training wheels and extended axles would have no purpose, and guys wouldnt spend big bucks on +3" A-arms for their motocross quads. Ive got a little experience on these things, and I can easily whip any trike up on two wheels, but I seem to have a heck of a lot harder time getting a quad up there, though it can be done. Ive got plenty of experince rolling both, and I still roll my trike more often than my quad, simply because it rolls easier, not because my IQ drops 40 points when I get on the trike.

Unsuspended trikes roll easier than suspended ones for a couple of reasons. The first is that they normally use balloon tires to compensate for lack of suspension. Rounded soft balloon tires will roll easier than hard flat profiled squared ones. The other reason is that ANY bump that is not hit evenly with both wheels will throw it one way or the other. The more the suspension absorbs, the less your axle will have to. Doesnt matter if youre jumping.

muskegnmud
04-28-2003, 07:33 PM
I guess I should explain my problem and yes the problem is all mine.....it's a matter of respecting what I'm riding on....I found that when I ride the quad I don't try the stuff that I try when I'm on the trike. Getting on the trike just kinda makes me want to fool around, spin donuts, ride on two wheels,front and one side only...back two only and sometimes only on the front one,..... get them big fat tires spinning and splat mud at anything and everything etc,etc, In general do things that don't cross my mind when I"m riding the quad.......and that I realize now is the beauty of owning a trike versus a quad for me...yes it's a whole lot less safe but a whole lot more fun

Blazin350X
04-28-2003, 10:52 PM
C'mon, you guy's are not getting what I'm saying if you ride them properly, one will not flip any easier than the other, ya if you ride it like a wild man and don't use your head, the 3-wheeler is easy to flip over. Like TimSr. said, a unsuspended bike was not designed for jumping or flying over stuff like logs, rocks and hitting them on an angle, otherwise you'll be cartwheeling on two wheels.
Over the years I've ridin Warrior's, Quad Sport's, Quadrunner's, Recon's, LT125's, YTM125's, 200X's, 225DX's and my 350X They all have there place's and types of riding skills required to ride all of them, If you ride them within there limits or beyond there limits one is no worse than the other.
It's like saying if I stand on the sissy bar of a of 230 Quad Sport and take off that because it stands up on the back wheels, it's light in the front end, or put all your weight on one footpeg of a 250SX or a 225DX it's flips easy.
Like I said and I think TimSr. seems to agree if you can't master an unsuspended bike, going to a suspended one is not going to help keep you out of trouble or your face out of the dirt.

RacerRichie
04-29-2003, 02:28 PM
Quads flip as easy as trikes dudes!
May be its better to let the next guy get it.

Not in any physics class Ive ever attended, dude.

Any way its the RIDER not the bike. I hope you teach your kids that so they don't end up trying to be book smart and get things wrong in life.
Physics yeah right. and how many of those classes did you take?
Wana race good buddy?


Edit by HondaATC:Calling people out on this board is not what its here for. Trying to tacticly call someone fat doesn't work. Next time there will be more then an edited message.

TimSr
04-29-2003, 04:47 PM
Along the same lines of wisdom one might pick up in life that he wouldnt find in a book is how lacking in judgement it is to blindly issue challenges to people youve never seen ride, dude. Of all the people on this board, you pick the guy who regularly competes in both motocross and harescramble events. I guess youll be at Trikefest, and you can show me how much more accurate your theories of inertia and centrifugal force are than my useless ones that came out of a book. I guess this means youll want to run on the smaller supercross track so you can show me your superior maneuverability skills. Since one does not tip any easier than the other, Ill let you pick whether youd rather I smoke your butt on my TriZ, though I sure youd rather I did it with my much slower TRX250R since its no more difficult to tip, and all. Im sure an old fat guy like me wont give you much competition.

Then after you rest a bit, Ill let my 8 year old run you. He doesnt have a trike any more though he is proficient on one. He understands that wider doesnt tip as easy, and I didnt even have to use a physics book for him to comprehend that theory. He figured out he could take corners faster on his quad without rolling all by himself, so he is lifesmart like you, and not booksmart like me.

See you at Haspin. Dont forget your safety gear. I wouldnt want anybody getting injured just in case one of those lifesmart calculations may be incorrect.

Yamaha_Rules69
04-29-2003, 08:08 PM
That is gonna be one hell of a race. That sounds like a challenge made from TimSr. Wish I could be there to watch it...