200x extended axle

[xman23]

does anybody make a aftermarket 200x axle anymore, or does any body have one in nice shape they are willing to sell?

[seadoo650]

I remeber reading somewhere on here that the earlier model (83-84?) 250r axles will work. I'm not sure of the years. Maybe 81-82? I'm sure someone will verify.

[ProCarbine2k1]

I thought that was only on the 86-87's, but Im not quite sure...

[Curtis-Tecate3]

xman,

You don't have to look very hard.
www.durablue.com


P/N 20-1115sp Axle Hon-250r '82/200x '82-85 Elim 2+2 (the 200x application requires a '81-82 250r sprocket) $489.70

Our Classic 3 Wheeler axle (# 20-1115sp & 20-1117sp - CLICK Applications button above) is an Eliminator 2+2 Axle (meaning it's adjustable from +2" to +4"). They come with the Posi•Lock system and sprocket flange. When using the #20-1115sp for the '82-85 200x, a sprocket from a '81-82 250r is required (bolt pattern specific). Otherwise, the stock parts from the bike fit the axle (no other parts are needed to install the axle). Warranty to Original Purchaser against bending or breaking (see WARRANTY for details).

[xman23]

have any of you guys tried this axle out? 489 bucks is quite a bit

[200x350xtriz250]

have you considered wheel spacers? you can buy a set that will add 2 or 2.5 inches to each side for @ $40.

[deathman53]

spacers tend to bend axles when used for jumping. I have the extended axles on my tikes, as mine are used for mx. A set of 400ex hubs will add about 3" to the width of the bike and get diferent offset rims 4/5 your width will be about 5 inches wider.

[200x350xtriz250]

"spacers tend to bend axles when used for jumping."
" A set of 400ex hubs will add about 3" to the width of the bike and get diferent offset rims 4/5 your width will be about 5 inches wider."


won't that do the same as wheel spacers?

[deathman53]

if you notice most your atv's now have those same hubs and they don't bend axles like crazy. Spacers move the weight further out, past the area of strenth of the axle. Also most spacers are about 2-3" for each side(about 6" wider total), moving the weight that much further out. The 400ex hubs are about 1.5" wider on each side(3" total), they won't cause the axle to bend, as the the axle doens't have the wieght moved much from the axle and for use the different offset rims, the rims will bend far before the axle. Will spacers you are moving the weight about 3" off each side of the axle and the spacer isn't self isn't exactly light also, that more weight on the axle. If those hubs are so bad for bending axles, how is it that most of your sport atv's from 86 on use those same design hubs and axles aren't bending light crazy with them?? Its kinda like spacers on the front for quads will break the spindles, but how come wider a-arms don't???

Its all about where and how the force is applied. Go to a track, besides a tt track, and look how many bikes use wheel spacers, that should be pretty clear to you what works and what doesn't. Spacers on the front and rear DO put more stress on the ends of the axle/spindles, where as the offset hubs still keep the weight on the axle, only a small part which is only about 1" off the axle and is very light. If spacers didn't bend the axles(I have seen a few), then spacers would be purchased rather than extended axle, same for front spacers, instead of longer a-arms.

[deathman53]

If you are jumping alot like me, spacers will last you 1 day before the axle is bent, if you don't leave the ground, the axle might last you a few years. Stock axles are weak to start with, why move the weight further out to put more stress on a already weak axle. Offset hubs do some, but not enough to affect the axle. Do a simple test, put a pipe(regular emt) on a bench, strap it down and leave about 1" from the bench, push on that one inch. It doesn't move much at all, now put a 4" pipe over the top of it and push on the end of extension pipe, it moves alot easier. This is the same thing wheel spacers do.

Before you try to tell me extended axles do the same, yes, they do bend over time like ANY axle, but also they are far stronger than the stock axles. Spacers put the force over a small part of the axle, with a extended axle, the force is spread over the whole thing.

[Dirtcrasher]

IMO wheel spacers add a weak link to the axle and aren't a good idea at all for anyone that jumps.

[200x350xtriz250]

easy deathman...no arguement here about extended axles being better if you jump, but if you read through the posts I don't see where xman23 says he's a big jumper but does ask for a lower cost sollution. my point is only spacers will increase the width 5" - I have a set - for @ $40 and you suggest buying new hubs and wheels that do the same 5". the reason hubs don't bend axles from 86 on, imo, is the axles are all bigger diameter than the 200x's.
botttom line is all I was trying to do was give the man another option, and again if he's a jumper, I agree spacers, or imo, hubs and offset wheels are not the way to go...find a longer axle.

[saturnshadow]

So..
400ex hubs fit 82-85 or 86-87's,200x's?

[deathman53]

both, they are the same spline pattern.

[Dirtcrasher]

How about 450R hubs....?? They are a dime a dozen and cheap. They are the same splines as all the 200X ones aren't they?? I also believe there about 36$ each from the dealer new but I wonder if that comes with studs.

I thought the 86 200X had something different than the 83 to 85 200X?? But, maybe thats just a difference when swapping axles and not hubs.

Sounds like just about every Honda had the same splines and offset and swap with lots of models. But the 350X is different correct?? Any other hubs that you guys know fit the 85/86 350X??

[1DEADPRESIDENT]

I got one and it's been freshly chromed... And it's for sale...
It makes a stock axle axle look dinky! It has the same diameter as my durablue on my 350x...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b135/onedeadpresident/DSCF0031.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b135/onedeadpresident/DSCF0030-1.jpg

[oldskool83]

250x 300ex 400ex hubs all fit, i had a set and they widen the rear 1" per side. if you use 250x 300ex or 400ex wheels, kxf400 or z400 wheels they will get you another 1" per side. all in all you can do a +4 for very cheap. i know hubs go for around 20-40 bucks.

[PWK39]

How about 450R hubs....?? They are a dime a dozen and cheap. They are the same splines as all the 200X ones aren't they?? I also believe there about 36$ each from the dealer new but I wonder if that comes with studs.

I thought the 86 200X had something different than the 83 to 85 200X?? But, maybe thats just a difference when swapping axles and not hubs.

Sounds like just about every Honda had the same splines and offset and swap with lots of models. But the 350X is different correct?? Any other hubs that you guys know fit the 85/86 350X??

85/86 atc250r and trx250r hubs fit the 85/86 350x