1985 honda 250sx wont start

[samplefarm]

stupid question but does the key have to be in, in order to use the kick start to start it?

[ATC-Eric]

yes it does.

[samplefarm]

so would the kick start would not move if the key was not in?

[ATC-Eric]

No, you can kick it all day long without the key. Just wont give the bike any spark is all.

[samplefarm]

ok so if the kick start dosent move then the engine is probably seized?

[ATC-Eric]

Could also be your kick gears. Can you push the bike in gear at all to see if the piston will move?

I would suggest you get a manual. You can download one from this link. They ask for a small donation in exchange. Well worth it!

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=56218&highlight=manuals

Crack into that case and see whats going on!

Good luck

[samplefarm]

thanks ill give that a try after everything melts from the ice storm

[Tri-ZNate]

try diesel fuel and Automatic transmission fluid in a blend, let it sit for about a week and then try breaking it loose if you havent already

[samplefarm]

right now i have it soaking in marvels mystery oil its been soaking for bout a week

[Huffa]

What's the history of the machine? Is it siezed from just setting or what?

[samplefarm]

it ran fine and then the tire had a hole in it and i just got busy so it sat for about 10 years

[samplefarm]

i just tried moving it with it in gear and i can't push it forward but it will easily roll backward and it moves just fine in neutral

[Huffa]

it ran fine and then the tire had a hole in it and i just got busy so it sat for about 10 years

Sat where? Was it inside all the time?

Look at this pic and take #14 cap off, you will then see a bolt that you can put a socket on, do so and try turning the motor back and fourth this way.

http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/assets/schematics/Honda/H00270018.gif

You may have trouble getting the cap off, might want to heat it up gently with propane if you have a problem getting it off. Use a wide enough bladed screw driver or a good impact. They are easy to butcher up if you are not careful.

Some really HOT oil through the spark plug hole might help loosen it up too?

[samplefarm]

ok thanks yah it sat outside for that whole time and i made a stupid move by not covering it

[samplefarm]

#14 is right under honda right?