Anyone know what these forks are off of? (lots of pics)

[Nick_R_23]

Hey I finally got ahold of a camera for a few days and I was wondering what kind of forks got redneck'd onto my 185s (185x). The guy I got it from said he thought they were 200x forks, but I think they are 250r because of the gold rim and hub. I was told they could also be 350x? The disc is on the right side and the rim bolts onto the hub from the left (with the bike facing forward sitting on it normally) Also the front fender was demolished in front so the pieces hanging on I cut off and turned the fender around so it is on backwards in the pics. And the sticker on the side says MELETZER but it comes up as a tire company on google so I think that sticker was placed on by someone but it is on both forks so I dont know? Anyways heres a few pics:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-010F.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-015F.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-014F.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-009F.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-008F.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-007F.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-006F.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-005F.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/MVC-004F.jpg

Thanks for any help!!!

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[maggiesboy]

look like 250r to me. Might want a second opinion. I only play a dr. on tv :D

[84honda200s]

yea looks like r to me too.

[Nick_R_23]

Yeah 250r is what I thought when I first saw it. This guy had a small pile of trike stuff he said I can come haul it off for free and this was laying on its side and the first thing i saw were the forks and wheel and I got all excited and was like 'holy **** is that an R!?!?' Too bad it wasnt lol. :lol:

Is there any way to tell for sure, a part # somewhere or something only R forks had? Any idea what year R these are from?

Here is a pic of what the fender is supposed to look like:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/250rfender.jpg

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[firefirefire90]

Those are from a 250R. Either...those are from a 83/4 which i do not believe they are, then the wheel and the forks are on the wrong sides...someone correct me if im wrong or getting warm?


EDIT: forgot to add, I think they are liquid cooled 250R forks and wheel. :beer

[Nick_R_23]

the wheel and the forks are on the wrong sides...

Thats what I thought because I cant find a pic of a trike with those exact forks, but I guess they are on the right way because the mount for the caliper is on the same side with the disc.

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[GPracer2500]

Well, if you take the fork caps off and there is a 4 or 5 inch spring sitting on top of a much longer spring then they are 85 250r forks (or 85/86 350X forks??). If there is only one long spring then they'd be 86 forks. AFAIK, that's the only difference between 85 and 86 250r forks.

[Nick_R_23]

So these for sure are 85/86 forks?

I wonder if these could be 87 forks, definately possible up here with all these weird parts I come across daily and who knows where people come up with this stuff, and like I said Ive never seen a set just like these, so there might be a small chance??

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[gizmo_22]

kind of off topic but is that one a runner, im interested on how it handles with the front so high... makes me want to mod my 185 into a small fully suspended one

[Rajunrick]

they look to me like they came from an 83-4 R. can't be 85-6 because the tree and forks are different from these.

[Nick_R_23]

Actually it is a runner, but it doesnt start when its cold and the carb leaks so I havent been riding it lately. But it is the absolute funnest machine I have ever ridden. The steering is great, way improved handing vs the fat front tire. It cuts through anything, and for me it seems to try to tip less. When you jump it, it leans way forward, and when you try and catwalk it it leans way back, so its center of gravity is very fine lined. It also rides differently, it leans way back, and the handlebars seemed either too high or too wide (dont remember) but I got used to them real quick so I dont notice it now.

Whats sad is that this machine hit something VERY hard before I got it, and the frame is bent 2" to the left, and yet it is the only machine we own where you can go down the road and let go of the handlebars and not have it veer off in some direction. :wondering You can see one bend in the frame in the 2nd pic (showing the side of the front fender) It is just below the tank -- that part is supposed to be straight.

The only thing im worried about is the oil pump is in the front of the engine and it leans back enough I dont think it gets enough oil, so I use about 1 3/4 - 2 quarts of oil, seems to work ok. Because the bike leans back it also has less of a tank because it lets the gas rest beyond the reach of the reserve so you have to watch your fuel level when you go on a long ride. Also in the 5th pic (facing the trike) you will see a crinkle in one side of the gas tank -- that is from the tripple trees hitting it -- although I think that if I had a good frame (and it hadnt've had that accident) it would not do this because there is no dent on the other side.

Also like I said this was a redneck job, so the triple trees dont fit exactly into the fork tube. They used a different kind of bearing then what was originally in the 250r forks (im assuming the original 185s bearing) so when it comes to that you'll have to use your imagination.

The only thing I wish it had different was a light!!!

-Nick

[Derrick Adams]

The forks, triples, and front wheel assembly is all 83/84 250R or 200X.(Pretty much the same). There's a couple ways to tell. First off is the diameter of the forks themselves. 83/84 R and 200X are 34mm where as the 85/86 R are 39mm. Secondly the 83/84 R front hub shares the same bolt pattern wheel as the 200X, which is larger than the 85/86 R and 350X. (which this hub and wheel are). Lastly the triples on the 85/86 R have substaintially more rake built into them than the earlier models and the steering stops are cast into the back, not the front.

Any year 250R front fender will bolt on as well as 83-85 200X. Nice bike!

[Curtis-Tecate3]

Actually the 83-85 200X had 33mm forks where the 83-84 250R had 35mm with longer travel. This is / was one of the racers upgrades for the 200X back in the day. You have enough meat on the 200X triples to bore to 35mm and then bolt on the longer travel R forks.

Curtis.

[atctim]

Personally - they look like 83-85 200X to me. Measure the tubes as everyone is saying to positively identify them.

By the way - neat trike you got there. I like it's looks:naughty: and stance.

[oldskool83]

that front fender is a 85/86 250R fliped backwards, look at it again the front is busted up and turned inside to the frame.

i think they are 83/84 250R forks.

[Nick_R_23]

Yeah the fender was broken so I turned it around. When I get home today Ill go measure the the forks, but what part do I measure, the bottom part or top part?

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[yamaha_tri_z]

That is most likly what they are.

[Curtis-Tecate3]

Measure the diameter of the top sliders (the plated tubes).

Curtis.

[Derrick Adams]

Actually the 83-85 200X had 33mm forks where the 83-84 250R had 35mm with longer travel. This is / was one of the racers upgrades for the 200X back in the day. You have enough meat on the 200X triples to bore to 35mm and then bolt on the longer travel R forks.

Curtis.


I'll be dipped. I didn't know that. I always thought they were the same. Are the triples interchangable?

[Nick_R_23]

Well I just got back from measuring them, they are 35mm exactly. So I guess that means they are 83/84 forks. Thanks for all the help!!

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[Curtis-Tecate3]

I assumed it was 83/84 250R due to the gold wheel.

I am not sure about the interchangeability of the triples from 83-85 200X to 83/84 250R but it is highly likely.

Curtis.

[mike from long island]

thats a picture of my fender!!! who gave you permission to use that pic. i am going to tell the feds on you!!! :D :D :beer :D :D



Yeah 250r is what I thought when I first saw it. This guy had a small pile of trike stuff he said I can come haul it off for free and this was laying on its side and the first thing i saw were the forks and wheel and I got all excited and was like 'holy **** is that an R!?!?' Too bad it wasnt lol. :lol:

Is there any way to tell for sure, a part # somewhere or something only R forks had? Any idea what year R these are from?

Here is a pic of what the fender is supposed to look like:
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k28/Nick_R_23/250rfender.jpg

-Nick :TrikesOwn

[badasskfx]

85 250r forks have a cap over the shrader valve so definately not 85

[Nick_R_23]

thats a picture of my fender!!! who gave you permission to use that pic. i am going to tell the feds on you!!!

Lol is that really? I got the pic off ebay while I was looking for a new one cause im gonna make that machine look nice, and also couldnt find a good pic anywhere else.

Dont complain its free advertising!!! lol :D :D ;)

-Nick :TrikesOwn