One of the original test trikes...... atc70

[Paradox2221]

After a lot more probing by my friend in Eastern Quebec.. the same fellow that scooped the atc70 for me at the estate sale.... checked with some of the locals and was told the bike I have was a test bike that WAS cobbled together in 1970 for testing in extreme cold weather and adverse conditions that exist in Eastern Quebec. It was also supplied with the 2nd engine... from an atc90... the paperwork confirms it was registered in Quebec in 1970 as does the ID plate and the VIN# stamped into it.

Everyone was under the impression it had been returned to Honda North America
after the testing period was over.... and were surprised to find it was under tarps and crud in an old ramshackle out-building 30+ years later... With this being unit #096 I've decided to go with a full rebuild in the original colors etc.

Does anyone have access to the color code numbers for the Daytona Orange and the Silver paints used in the '70 to '73 era. At my age...62... I've got nothing but time on my hands and my disability pension to concern me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated....

[Rex Karz]

Sounds fun, sure would like to see a pic !

[Dirtcrasher]

Mike at Vintage Motorsports can most likely help you with anything you need.

[TravEX]

I would love to see some pics too!!! Great find!!!

[ATC-Eric]

Here's your pics guys

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=60391

[vintagemotorsports]

I just got an email from him regarding this machine , First off this is not a test bike I can guarentee it , almost all of the proto type bikes are not issued a VIN # and they were destroyed after testing this happens to all models even all these high tech works parts the motocross guys use are destroyed after the season thats just how it works. plus I think I am reading the number right it looks like there might be a 7000 model number tough to see . I know a guy right now that has number 36 of the 1973 ATC70 that was bought at a dealer in 73 by his friend. It sounds like a cool story but unfortunatley not true. on another note Honda even as a prototype would never test something that looks like this bike . It is a 73 K0 model witch is still cool although its going to need alot of correct parts located almost the entire bike is wrong .

[Paradox2221]

To Eric and those that endeavored to assist me, I thank you for your input, I really appreciated it... seems I now have a lot of new questions to ask my friend in Quebec.... a lot of questions....

To Mike, I'm glad I only asked if you carried the Daytona Orange and Silver paint from Honda.... based on your posting.... which I still haven't figured was for my
benefit in separating the truth from the myth in Quebec that I paid for.. or to let everyone else know how smart you are... I allow everyone to make a fool of me
ONCE..... and one of us just ran out.....

Thanks guys, but if this is how new members are treated by the senior members, I'm gone.........

[burnoutboy]

Hey Mate,

Mike was only telling you that the machine was not a test bike. Nothing rude was said in Mikes comment. It is still a very cool trike, regardless of its history. Don't take it to heart man.

[Paradox2221]

Hey Mate,

Mike was only telling you that the machine was not a test bike. Nothing rude was said in Mikes comment. It is still a very cool trike, regardless of its history. Don't take it to heart man.


You're right mate.......

I've got both feet back on the pegs now....

TOO SOON OLD.... too late smart

Thanks

[TravEX]

Yeah, don't take it to heart. I didn't see anything offensive either, just information from someone who had the info. You still got a nice project there, and a great story.

[vintagemotorsports]

Hey guy,
Im sorry if you thought i was trying to bash you etc, thats not the case. I was just trying to help you out identifiing what you have there so you know before you sunk a bunch of money in to it . send me an email i would be happy to help you out with the correct color paints etc if you want to go that way, I have restored 5 of these to new specs and they are getting hard to locate all the parts to do them correctley but I can help you in any way i can
Thanks Mike

[Paradox2221]

Thanks Mike........ I appreciate that....

BTW... what was the 7000 series..... the more I look at the ID, the more I think you're right...:wondering

[ATC-Eric]

You know, even if members round here do get ignorant, let it role.

I have been here for a while, and speak from experience when I say that rude people dont last here.

Not saying you were ignorant Mike.

There are a lot of fools around here, dont let any of them get the best of you!



Cute puppy too! Yours?

[vintagemotorsports]

Post the entire VIN # on the bike and i will check on it through my contacts at Honda. it should start like atc70-100-------.
thanks Mike
www.vintagemotorsports.net

[Paradox2221]

From what I can read of it.....

atc70-100?096 the ? could be a 7.

[TravEX]

Spray the #'s with brake parts cleaner or something like that and they will appear. Or you could rub it with a pencil and paper.

[vintagemotorsports]

Ok if its a 7 its number 7096 if its a 0 then its 96, pretty simple. I would take 400 grit sandpaper and hit the tops of the numbers and see if it clears it up . Mike

[Yamada]

What is the VIN # on the registration, in 1970 they should have the true number.

[Paradox2221]

Ok if its a 7 its number 7096 if its a 0 then its 96, pretty simple. I would take 400 grit sandpaper and hit the tops of the numbers and see if it clears it up . Mike


The sandpaper worked... you're right.. it is a 7

VIN# atc70-1007096

[andrew j hyman]

Hi it is a shame they told you a story about your bike. Its real sad that they would lie? Not sure why people do that ? Your bike is a atc70 1973 that some jerk srew up They put alot of newer parts on bike not from early 1970's . Mike from vms and I work for Honda collection Hall In japan we both Know alot about Hondas atvs We did a us90 one of the fisrt to come to the usa also i found one of the first 150 that was ever bult from near canada . We both have talked to guys from Honda in Japan for hours about there atv. Also Tony that his nick name flew over to the usa and met with us to do the us90 that went in Honda Colletion hall. One good thing if you need parts to restore your bike give us a email if i have extra parts will sell some I do have a ton of Honda NOS parts for MOst ALL honda bikes andrew

[Klondike1020]

A guy offered to sell me a 1968 honda 90
i am goin to get hte vin and see if its anyhting special
its in semi rough shape but running and ridding his 13 year old has been beating around on it for a year or two

is a 68 90 anything special?

[andrew j hyman]

HI us90 /atc90 they did not make 1968 first year was late 1969 !!!! thats when first us 90 came in the usa

[Paradox2221]

Hi it is a shame they told you a story about your bike. Its real sad that they would lie? Not sure why people do that ? Your bike is a atc70 1973 that some jerk srew up They put alot of newer parts on bike not from early 1970's . Mike from vms and I work for Honda collection Hall In japan we both Know alot about Hondas atvs We did a us90 one of the fisrt to come to the usa also i found one of the first 150 that was ever bult from near canada . We both have talked to guys from Honda in Japan for hours about there atv. Also Tony that his nick name flew over to the usa and met with us to do the us90 that went in Honda Colletion hall. One good thing if you need parts to restore your bike give us a email if i have extra parts will sell some I do have a ton of Honda NOS parts for MOst ALL honda bikes andrew


Thanks for the info... disturbing... yes.... regretful.. no.. Now I definately have an even greater desire to rebuild the wee beasty.... and it definately has to be called
"FRANK*N*TRIKE" Kind of like the old Johnny Cash song... One Piece at a Time...

I suspect knowing my friend was not a local and it was going to an Anglo on the west coast couldn't be passed up.... not to worry though... I've got a decal somewhere around the house of 9 Beavers pi**ing on a frog that I can hang in a frame from the rear grab bar.

I want to thank everyone for their great help.... something good has definately been created... a friendship I won't forget... and a greater desire to breathe life back into the '70.

As for the goofs in Eastern Quebec that are no doubt rolling on the floor laughing... May the Sewers of Rangoon back up in their Habitant Pea Soup.

[thefox]

How in-depth are you going with the restore? This could definitely be one of the greatest resurrections on 3ww.

[Paradox2221]

How in-depth are you going with the restore? This could definitely be one of the greatest resurrections on 3ww.


I'm willing to go all the way.... I've got plastics coming in for it, but that will only be temporary.... I want to rework the metal body parts... I think they can all be salvaged without need for any Bondo... hate the stuff anyway... have a neighbour
that is a wiz on the English Wheel.. and has a paint booth... so I'll be getting the exact paints from Mike.

Just got an original atc70 gas tank from a fantastic chap in Arizona and a couple of original rims as well, good thing as the gas tank that came with it is from an atc90 and looks like someone took out their frustration on it with a 12 guage.

Both engines look not that bad.... carb needs cleaning and rebuild kit... going to tear both down and rebuild.. replace all bearings and gasgets.. etc.

Rubber looks good... Dunlops... so I have to research the brand of the original tires.

The one thing I do not have is a SEAT... or any of the seat components....

Lost my workshop in the last blizzard... anyone need kindling????? Wonder what
the wife will say if I use the Pecan dining room table on the white carpet.....

I wonder what would happen if I put my spare CB450 Four on it... besides going straight up.

I'm retired, so time is no big deal for me... waking up each morning.. finding my glasses and my teeth... standing up... and having a cr*p is.... but I'm usually ok by noon, so little by little she will regain her original glory. Dream on....