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250r'en +TCB
11-12-2006, 04:50 PM
What else was this engine used in??? Surly there must have been some other companies that used the engine in dirtbikes or something right?? Somebody posted an ebay acution more than a year back, but obviously the aution is no longer listed.....

If I could find the engine, the rest of the machine would be pretty simple to build if you could get somebody with a Tiger 500 to take maeasurements! Use brakes off a rice rocket and get some Maier plastics for an R, tecate or Z (whatever works best) and modify them to look more Tigerish....

Just some food for thought, I'm soooo bored because it's crappy outisde!!!

88 Turbo Coupe
11-12-2006, 05:01 PM
It would be alot easier to find a rolling chassis and mod it to fit. You will need a 12 inch swinger to keep it on the ground.

BigGreenMachine
11-12-2006, 05:23 PM
I like the idea. I think a more modern KX/CR or maybe even a big Husky fourstroke motor would make an awsome powerplant for your idea.

The Tiger frames were really lightweight. I've heard they were also weak, caused by using the bare minimum frame material needed. I love the design but it wasn't very durable.

You'll need to improve apon that. Keep thinking, 1/16th tubing with lots of bracing.

250r'en +TCB
11-12-2006, 05:29 PM
I like the idea. I think a more modern KX/CR or maybe even a big Husky fourstroke motor would make an awsome powerplant for your idea.

The Tiger frames were really lightweight. I've heard they were also weak, caused by using the bare minimum frame material needed. I love the design but it wasn't very durable.

You'll need to improve apon that. Keep thinking, 1/16th tubing with lots of bracing.
I prefer 2-strokes personally...... Something about a 500cc 2-stroke just sends chills up the spine!!!:naughty:

Yeah I would make a beefier frame than Tiger did. I wouldn't follow their design 100%, just use it as a guide line.

As for the swinger, what was the gearing on the Tiger 500 stock??? I could always loose a tooth or two in the rear. People said the same thing to me when I put the 310 kit on my R. All I did was add 1 tooth to the front sprocket (14 tooth) and it's fine now!!! I could loose one or two in back if i wanted!

84honda200s
11-12-2006, 05:40 PM
i agree i love the sound and power of a 2 stroke. im putting a kowasaki 440 l/c sled engine on my go-kart. it should fly

xd 200x
11-12-2006, 05:52 PM
rotax motors are in sleds

250r'en +TCB
11-12-2006, 06:06 PM
rotax motors are in sleds
yeah but did they ever use a singe cylinder 500 engine in a sled??? If so what was the model????

88 Turbo Coupe
11-12-2006, 06:10 PM
I would like to shove that 500cc Rotax in a 88 trx frame!!!

250r'en +TCB
11-12-2006, 06:16 PM
^^^ sorry too many wheels for me!!!! 3 is the perfect number of wheels, not too little and not too many!!!!

I want to be able to do this!!!
http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/ATCteen/?action=view&current=tiger.jpg&refPage=180&imgAnch=imgAnch199

PowerTech
11-12-2006, 06:27 PM
sleds dont have transmissions. you dont want a sled motor

when i saw those close up pictures of the tigers. i swore i could build one myself.

you can copy just about any trike out there and if you build it your self it will look basicly like a tiger, because it is home built.

what i would do if i was doing this. is deside on a engine and build a bike around it. find a big honking 2 stroke , a after market honda style swing arm. a set of upside down forks. , dual front disk brakes, machine a triple tree and have it anodized, get a some cromaly tubing, build it a aluminum sub frame in the back.

pick a set of plasitcs and fuel tank. tecate or 250r.

none of this will be easy. proabably cost way to much and i would loose interest before it was done.

but it could be nice. i would just copy a 250r. build a nice smooth frame for it. with a beter set of forks. and like a 500 honda pilot engine or something sick.

oldskool83
11-12-2006, 06:28 PM
from the little information i know about tigers they used Can-Am dirtbike engines. Cam-Am build 500cc 2 stroke MX bikes back in the early to mid 80's. if you can find a Can-Am chances are its gonna be the same. keeping them running it alittle harder i dont know much about them other then they were a good bike and the company died off like macio's in the 80's

nd4speed
11-12-2006, 07:11 PM
Rotax is an Austrian engine manufacturer, founded in 1920 in Dresden, Germany. Operations were moved to Wels, Austria in 1943 and finally to Gunskirchen in 1947. In 1959, Rotax merged with the Vienna-based Lohner-Werke, a manufacturer of car and railway wagon bodies.

In 1970 Lohner-Rotax was bought by Bombardier, thus allowing Rotax to further develop its motorcycle motor section.

The company constructed only two-stroke engines until 1982, when it started building four-stroke engines and aircraft engines. Other important dates include 1962, when a Rotax engine was first installed in a snowmobile and 1989, when Rotax received Type Certification for its 912 A aircraft engine.


Rotax:
Sells engines to Italian Motorcycle Manufacturer Aprilia.
Sold engines to Canadian Can-Am motorcycles (Both Rotax and Can-Am's parent company are/was Bombardier).
Makes the Rotax Max range of kart engines.
Makes the four-valve, single-cylinder, water-cooled engines used in the BMW F650 series motorcycle.
Produces the Rotax 912 and Rotax 914 light aircraft engines.
The Rotax 122 & Rotax 123 two stroke 125cc engines are used in the Aprilia RS125 motorcycle.
Produces the Rotax 494 and 493 two stroke engines used in Sports Car Club of America F500 race cars.

4cylinders
11-13-2006, 02:20 PM
hey, great info. can anyone in canada find one of those bikes? maybe some one could recreate a tiger500?

250r'en +TCB
11-13-2006, 05:54 PM
hey, great info. can anyone in canada find one of those bikes? maybe some one could recreate a tiger500?
:lol: :lol: :lol: if you could find a tiger 500 you have found the god of all 3-wheelers!!! I would kill to find one, especially if the person I was buying it from didn't know what it was worth!!!:naughty:

they were just about the most basic design you could get! Engine, frame, swinger, tripple clamps, forks and tires basically!!! Oh and some plastics and a tank for good measure :lol:

twgranger
11-13-2006, 05:59 PM
^^^ sorry too many wheels for me!!!! 3 is the perfect number of wheels, not too little and not too many!!!!

I want to be able to do this!!!
http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e306/ATCteen/?action=view&current=tiger.jpg&refPage=180&imgAnch=imgAnch199
Sweet machine with the crappiest tires ever!!! WHY?

84honda200s
11-13-2006, 06:03 PM
Rotax is an Austrian engine manufacturer, founded in 1920 in Dresden, Germany. Operations were moved to Wels, Austria in 1943 and finally to Gunskirchen in 1947. In 1959, Rotax merged with the Vienna-based Lohner-Werke, a manufacturer of car and railway wagon bodies.

In 1970 Lohner-Rotax was bought by Bombardier, thus allowing Rotax to further develop its motorcycle motor section.

The company constructed only two-stroke engines until 1982, when it started building four-stroke engines and aircraft engines. Other important dates include 1962, when a Rotax engine was first installed in a snowmobile and 1989, when Rotax received Type Certification for its 912 A aircraft engine.


Rotax:
Sells engines to Italian Motorcycle Manufacturer Aprilia.
Sold engines to Canadian Can-Am motorcycles (Both Rotax and Can-Am's parent company are/was Bombardier).
Makes the Rotax Max range of kart engines.
Makes the four-valve, single-cylinder, water-cooled engines used in the BMW F650 series motorcycle.
Produces the Rotax 912 and Rotax 914 light aircraft engines.
The Rotax 122 & Rotax 123 two stroke 125cc engines are used in the Aprilia RS125 motorcycle.
Produces the Rotax 494 and 493 two stroke engines used in Sports Car Club of America F500 race cars.



great stats man you forgot something though they rock i love rotax engines.

im a sled guy after my trike of cource. i loved the 1980 454 l/c and the 583 in the formula and mach 1 but if i had to pick i would go with the 454 the 583 was a bear sometimes like any engine but was more offten than not. then they put the 617 then the 700 triple witch was a royal pain but when it ran it was a screamer.
i love the rotax engines because they are simple to work on.

SYKO
11-13-2006, 07:16 PM
didnt atk motorcycles use rotax motors? atk 406 is one model I think, and correct me if i'm wrong I think they made a 500 at one time, I know they have a 650 4 stroker model.

erectordale
11-13-2006, 08:27 PM
I would advise up front If you find a rotax/tiger 500 engine you need deep pockets if anything goes wrong. sleeves was almost gone when i bought the ones I have. pistons are stock bore only and cranks and transmission parts are exstinct connecting rods are a commonly used rotax rod so they sem too be plentiful trust me I have 4,000 worth of oem rotax parts just in case

burnoutboy
11-13-2006, 11:58 PM
didnt atk motorcycles use rotax motors? atk 406 is one model I think, and correct me if i'm wrong I think they made a 500 at one time, I know they have a 650 4 stroker model.

What about the ATK 750.. that has a rotax right?