86 or newer swingarm on an 85

[dufrain]

I am building up my 85 r .I am trying to build up the rear end strong but am having to get used parts.I want to eliminate the chain flying off and killing a case.I want to get a tapered bearing carrier along with an anti fade nut.It looks like most of the carriers are for the 86 and then the trx 250r.Can I swap in the 86 or trx swingarm.is there any better years to look for in the trx swingarms.If anyone has one pm me,thanx

[PowerTech]

i know you can bolt in a 86 atc swingarm. you will need the brake bracket, and the carrier bearing, i dont know if the TRX one will work i think it won't . but not sure.

the axle i think is the same. from 85 to all of them. but agin not sure.


here is a nice double row. not a taperd . but good price and good brand.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RAD-Bearing-Carrier-HONDA-ATC-250R-85-only-H2_W0QQitemZ220043467783QQihZ012QQcategoryZ43972QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and the anti fade nuts, and aftermarket lock nuts fit damn nere all of the honda bike models

the carrier and the brake caliper mount are the 2 big things between teh 85 and 86 swingarm.


what i would like it if there was a way to put one on the 89 style aluminum swing arm on the ATC that would be sick. i think it is longer or shorter though ?. longer is cool shorter not good.

[MathGSR98]

85 atc bearing carrier is different, all the other years are the same.
Same thing for the axle.
The 85-86 swing arm are the same, but I'm not sure.
THe 87+ swing are is 1 inch shorter so I would not put it on my trike unless you want to wheelie all day long.

[breastman569]

85-86 swinging is not the same it is a little different by the way the rear claiper mounts.

[dufrain]

SO is the axle the same then,and the caliper itself

[Yamahondaman]

85 axel is solid....86 axel is hollow ....
the sprocket bolts are bigger and tappered on the 86

[KASEY]

the axle is different!! the carrier is different!!! THE BRAKE STAY IS DIFFERENT TOO,,,,,,,, if you have good components why switch to 86????
i have a dual row carrier in the swinger on the 500 its all 85 and i have no problems !!! make sure everything is in good shape is all you have to do,,,,,,,

[dufrain]

The only reason I was considering it ,before I found that the axle and brake stay is different to ,Is its easier to find a good carrier used.I guess I will kepp hunting,unless someone here has one.thanx guys

[dufrain]

Ok,How about those anti fade nuts compared to the cheaper locking nuts.Are the cheaper lock nuts pretty good.

[2strokes4life]

KASEY has it right.

[Yamahondaman]

86 carrier is bigger in dia. and shorter.....
it will not fit in the 85

[KASEY]

i have a STOCK lock nut setup and i see no reason to spend the big $$$$$$ unless you want to, i also just picked up a used lonestar axle for a 86,,, and it works in a 85 carrier even though the sprocket mounting is different,,, cheap shot for the other site !!! :lol: :lol: :D :D :D

http://i11.tinypic.com/4fwuxds.jpg

[dufrain]

I was reading about the tapered bearing carriers and they said make sure to ge a better nut for them Is what got me to thinking about that .Maybe I will just get a double row one and use the stock nut or a cheap lock nut.Now If I can just find a good deal on one that will go in this 85.

[350xBomb]

Is it just the axle end of the swinger thats different? Well I mean, will an 86 swinger (and components) fit an 85 frame? What is the advantage to tapered bearings and can they be used with a stock carrier?

[2strokes4life]

the bearing carrier is different so the axles are not interchangable, the 85' also has a stud on the side of the swingarm to mount brake caliper linkage,the while the 86' does not have a stud or use linkage. either set up can be put on either year bike.