big bore kit for atc 110

[rugabugadouglas]

does any one know where i can get a big bore kit for a atc 110 that doesnt require alot of head work? how about any motor parts to make it morepowerfull? any info would be great!!!:Bounce

[team-red-rider]

a cam from web cam a custom weld piston porting a bigger carb ect...

[Vealmonkey]

There have been big bore pistons on ebay lately.

[rugabugadouglas]

i already have a mukuni carb on it would porting the intake help? also does any one have a pic of a aftermarket frame? i cant think of the 2 names? mine hasone but i want to know which kind i will post pic when i get the chance. keep the replys comming i can use all the help i can get im kind of new to the three wheeler motor ive done a few dirt bike but now im on to bigger and better things than those

[team-red-rider]

nick nicholson sp??? and i can remember the 2nd

[Vealmonkey]

Nicholson, Bandit, Joker, Hi Performance atv, Johnnys Speed and Chrome. There were lots of them.

[rugabugadouglas]

heres some frame pic

[firefirefire90]

you can get the 134cc kit for the 110. Stroker kit i believe. I've ridden one...but it was a honda 90 with the kit...FAST!

[hotrod 110]

You can use a cam from an S90 I found mine on Ebay. K&D cycle in Yuma was a good source for parts I built a stroker with parts from them ended up 13:1 beast!!!I got an S90 race cam off Ebay along with a Joker tube frame and Bandito h/d axle . I set it up with a 185 front end - needed the second brake. Wish I had pictures of it but this was before I had access to a digital camera.

[hotrod 110]

Your frame looks like the Joker I had. I don't know if gold was common for a/m frames but mine was also gold.

[rugabugadouglas]

where can i get a stroker kit? and how much work are they to pt it do i have to have the jug bored out and valve work done?

[rugabugadouglas]

also where were the joker frames made and by who?

[rugabugadouglas]

would any of these be hard to put in or work well?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&rd=1,1&item=140045090169&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=140045092702&rd=1,1

[greenhuman]

That frame is a Pauter Machine frame. They are in Chula Vista Ca and are still into the VW engine stuff.
If you get stuck for a big bore kit, you can use a piston out of a Honda CB125J. There is a little bit of machine work to do to the top of the piston and a rebore. They are 56.5 mm and will give 124cc's.
There is not enough difference in Honda 90 stock cams to make a difference in performance that you will feel. An aftermarket cam is the only way to go. Watch Ebay. Don't get confused with these 110 pit bike parts, though. They are not the same at all.

[xljimmy]

Whys not start with a atc125 engine or trx125 ('84 and '85 fore sure) same thing but 5 spd with reverse and no H/L. Then big bore them.

What kind of machine work is needed on top of cb125 piston. Just to lower compression or something else. Im not a bike guy but does it have to be the cb125j. I am assuming there is other cb125's.

[rugabugadouglas]

how much machining is required to the top of the piston? also could i use a 125 jug on my 110 motor? my motor is fairly new on the inside now. i wonder why they dont have a big bore kit for these and they do for 90s? the 110 seems more common?:confused:

[rugabugadouglas]

does anybody have a idea where i can get a 125 with reverse fairly cheap? i miht be willing to part with the good old 110 motor:( but power comes befor orignal i want a bad little 110 when im done

[xljimmy]

The 125 cylinder wont bolt on without machining. I dont know alot on 110/125 but do know that the 90 will take the 110 cylinder but it has to be machined shorter and sometimes slight amout of case work for the cylinder to go in. (a file or dremel would handle that) I would figure 110/125 is the same cuz of the stroke is longer.

[xljimmy]

I wish I knew more on the years of the trx125 with flat 110 style motor. I was watching ebay and asking sellers question for a while trying to get it narrowed down but that was taking for ever. I was also asking on the spds and reverse. I do believe the '84 and '85 are for sure possible others. I know the '87 are the upright engine but dont know on '86. My bro had trx without a engine and dont know the year and I put a 110 motor in it, bolted right up. It did have a reverse light so know it had reverse originally.

I get first dibs on the ebay ones though. j/k I have been watching for them forever and found nothing on just a complete engine.

[rugabugadouglas]

do you think the cams i listed earler would be any good? or at least biddibg on?

[rugabugadouglas]

yea the 125 motors are scarce on there even for atcs!!!

[Vealmonkey]

rugabug, Your frame is definitely a Pauter Machine frame. As far as the eingine, if you can find all the components, you can build a square engine for the 110. You would have to find a stroker crank and a piston that are both 61mm. The real trick is, you have to carefully heat the connecting rod of a 110 and gently and forcefully squish it some 2mm, not for the faint of heart. Unless you can find all the components that are already done. Then the next biggest obstacle is having your cylinder resleeved to accept the piston. The next biggest job after that is to address the oiling, cause sometimes oil can become starved to the topend of the bigger engine. You also need to find out what cam you are using and wether or not you will have to modify the piston to use in the cylinder, as truly big pistons are not always compatable with the honda 110 head, and may have to be modified, lightened and balanced. Having dealt with all those issues, then you have to possibly relieve excess crankcase pressure from all this new and higher rotating masses inside the engine cases. You also have to decide if you want to keep the stock clutchless shifting or go for a manual shift. You also need to decide if you want to have the hi\low gearbox setup or you want just a regular single ratio setup. The clutch and the elimination of the hi\low gearbox assembly can be done using stock honda components, but, will have to be really searched for. If you do not want all the hassle, just stick to the 124 piston, and a nice little cam. See if you can find an aftermarket intake, not made for many years by the way, match port it to your intake and use about a 24mm carb and jet properly. You can use a 26mm or larger, but it will lose alot of low end and isn't very good for average putting around. 24mm is about the best all around. You have yourself a really nice start to a fun machine. The square engine will give you around 180ccs' or so. And the components are very, very hard to find or make. Good luck either way you go. And listen to greenhuman, he rocks when it comes to modifying. He builds my dream engine, the modified 200x.