Washing your ATC 250R , Now it wont Start! [Archive]

ceaserthethird

09-29-2006, 03:05 AM

Went out riding on the trail's and got her alittle dirty (ATC 250R '85 )

So when i got home i Took her a Shower and Now she won't start ! didn't wet the handle bars with the electric on / off switch.

Switch to a new spark plug (first i let the spark plug hole dry for few days) , Drain the Carb bowl.

i Kick it some many times .... it wont Start :wondering

What should i check :confused:

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TtownJoeShow

09-29-2006, 05:14 AM

try unpluging all the electrical connections and let them dry, just follow the wire bundles from the engine up

traxxasx

09-29-2006, 08:25 AM

I did this once on a dirtbike i had, i had washed my bike and somehow the water got threw the gasket on the stator cover , so the water reuind my coil. 70$ for a new one i remember that lol. Check if you have spark/

Kintore

09-29-2006, 12:02 PM

Happened to me as well, pull start the pig. I got some water in my exhaust and she wouldnt start on the one I sold. A quick pull start and 10 mins of running cleared her right out. She did smoke real white though lol

ceaserthethird

09-29-2006, 01:01 PM

How do you pull start :confused:

random-strike

09-29-2006, 01:11 PM

put it in say 3rd gear, tow it with something... when you're going let the clutch out and the tires will spin the motor over and give it some gas hope it starts.

similar to push starting a car.

Kintore

09-29-2006, 02:53 PM

Just like RS said, I use 2nd and pull it, with the switch "on" and choke it or I do. Then she will pop back to life like nothing, then stop. Untie the rope used to pull it and taker for a rip!

ceaserthethird

09-29-2006, 04:38 PM

How do i check for spark ?

traxxasx

09-29-2006, 06:36 PM

How do i check for spark ?

Simple, take the spark plug out the motor. Now replace the sprak plug back into the sprak plug wire but not back into the motor. Now hold it from the rubber part and touch the threaded part of the plug against the motors head, just ground the plug out basicly. Now have yourself while holding the plug or somone else kick the bike over and see if the plug sparks.

Psychotrike9

09-29-2006, 06:58 PM

yeah do that to check for spark but DO NOT TOUCH THE PLUG!!!!..why dont you just put in a new motor?

ceaserthethird

09-29-2006, 07:15 PM

That's funny .... put in a new motor LOL ....

Next time i wash the ATC what should i not wet directly or not wet at all ?

TtownJoeShow

09-30-2006, 05:11 AM

notta, i use lith grease in all electrical connections so water n dirt can't get in! some stator covers have a "breather hole" at the bottom, try not to get the stator wet! other than that it Should b fine.....lol you can even sink a engine while its running and start it within 10 mins, just gotta pull or kick the water out of it (well as long as alot of water doesn;t get into the gas, unlikly tho)

JohnR.

09-30-2006, 10:08 AM

Washing your ATC 250R , Now it wont Start!

Hey, what were you doing washing my 250R and how'd you get into my shed?

:lol:

Try taking the stator cover off and blow dry it with a hair drier. Do the same for any other electrical parts/connectors you may have got wet. Also, try a new plug, sometimes they foul out at the weirdest times.

John

DeePa

09-30-2006, 08:46 PM

why not hold the pulg? its the easiest test. if it hurts, your fine, if not, look for problems

firefirefire90

09-30-2006, 09:27 PM

To prevent water from gettin into the exhaust, buy an exhaust plug. They cost like 5 bucks and put it in every time you wash it and store you trike. GOOD investment!

ceaserthethird

10-01-2006, 04:24 AM

Their's No Spark When i kick it over , i did hold it to metal part's ....

NO Spark - What should i check ?

traxxasx

10-01-2006, 06:30 AM

Their's No Spark When i kick it over , i did hold it to metal part's ....

NO Spark - What should i check ?

Well if your plug dident spark then try a new plug. If that doesent work check your cdi, with an volt meter, if you get nothing follow it back to your stator, if you still get nothing your stator is ruiend, get a new one if so. Ohh you mightr want to check your on/off switch and for messed up wires, then do what i said above.

DeePa

10-01-2006, 09:20 AM

pull the stator cover off and drain any water out of there

mike

gravelord

10-01-2006, 11:42 AM

heres something else you can do, look inside the rear of the exhaust youll see a couple bolts, take it apart, and see how your muffler bearings are. if they are good, you will have spark.

ceaserthethird

10-04-2006, 05:02 AM

Ok guy's i open up the Stator Cover and their's water in their .... i dry it all up and left the case open .

But their's Rust .

What should i do ?

would it work again if i let it dry ?

traxxasx

10-04-2006, 07:07 AM

Ok guy's i open up the Stator Cover and their's water in their .... i dry it all up and left the case open .

But their's Rust .

What should i do ?

would it work again if i let it dry ?

Ha i was right, no it wont well it shouldent anyways, the water and the sprark from the kick shortends it out and ruins it. I would let it all dry clean it up with a wire brush and air compressor, and try to get sprak again, if you do hey awsome. If you dont look into a new stator. Replace it and you will be good to go.

Oh yea be sure to buy a new gaskey and replace it to. Clean up the old gasket off the case so you wont get any more water in there. Also next time you wash try not to wash more than you have to, cover up filter plug exhaust with a rag and dont start your bike after you wash it try to let it dry for a day or 2. So you dont get a short. Try a pressure washer next time it dosent just pour water onto your bike.

gotballs 250r 82

10-04-2006, 07:57 PM

Stator could have got wet take cover off. Dry out with carb cleaner kick it over dry with a rag and WD40 the stator. And change spark wire and cap NGK. Should fire up. Good luck

ceaserthethird

10-04-2006, 08:24 PM

Can i use " PB Blaster " on the Stator ? ? ?

gotballs 250r 82

10-05-2006, 08:10 PM

no use w/d 40 and could be wire and cap

ceaserthethird

10-05-2006, 08:51 PM

I'll be working on it tonight - Keep You Posted

RedRider_AK

10-05-2006, 08:54 PM

Be sure to check those muffler bearings, man. Those are very important, and if you run your machine with bad ones, it'll blow the motor.

ceaserthethird

10-05-2006, 09:33 PM

Muffler Bearings - you lost me their !

Fox250R

10-06-2006, 12:56 AM

Omg!!!!...

RedRider_AK

10-06-2006, 01:01 AM

Muffler Bearings - you lost me their !

Dude, if you've never heard of them, you need to grease them ASAP. They're meant to be changed every 10 tanks of gas. Take you machine to the local auto repair shop and ask them to press the muffler bearings out and re-grease them. Just be glad your machine hasn't started spitting chunks of piston out the exhaust yet.

cacustom

10-06-2006, 01:06 AM

pull start it. that always works. lol

ceaserthethird

10-06-2006, 01:54 AM

I Got Spark Yeah ...:Bounce

Are right Where is this muffler bearing location ? ? ?

Can some 1 add a picture ....

ceaserthethird

10-06-2006, 01:58 AM

I don't have wd-40 , I have " PB blaster " / Claim it's safe on electronic's ...

should i spray the hole stator ? ? ?:wondering

traxxasx

10-06-2006, 05:14 AM

I don't have wd-40 , I have " PB blaster " / Claim it's safe on electronic's ...

should i spray the hole stator ? ? ?:wondering

If you have spark leave it alone seal your stator cover up with silicone and tighten good and level. Also theres no such thing called muffler bearings there messing with your knowledge, just ignore it. Well since you beilived it i guess your not to mechanically inclined but its all good.

ceaserthethird

10-06-2006, 11:15 AM

I sprayed it last night with PB blaster ... still spark's

How big of a spark should i have ?

the 1 i get it's the size of a grain sand or 2 , Blue in color .

RedRider_AK

10-06-2006, 01:15 PM

Also theres no such thing called muffler bearings there messing with your knowledge, just ignore it. Well since you beilived it i guess your not to mechanically inclined but its all good.

Damn you! I had him going along with it too! :p

traxxasx

10-06-2006, 05:26 PM

Damn you! I had him going along with it too! :p

Yes you did, but c-mon you would prbably have him stripping his all bike looking for non exsiting bearings. Then he sure as heck wouldent have sprark. Anyways the spark should be a good blue spark, just throw everything back toghter and fule her up and kcik her over see if she fires up. Also seems how you got water into your stator you might want to check your oil for water.

gotballs 250r 82

10-06-2006, 05:29 PM

red what are you talken about your pass post tell the story..lol

RedRider_AK

10-06-2006, 05:43 PM

red what are you talken about your pass post tell the story..lol

Look at the first 2 pages and read. :lol:

ceaserthethird

10-06-2006, 06:11 PM

Red Rider_AK Grow Up !

What an ass ... You think it's funny ... What if i would have tore the bike down Looking for something that was not their ?

Or Wasted my time searching for this muffler bearing ....

What an ass you are ... you just don't get it

RedRider_AK

10-06-2006, 06:59 PM

What if i would have tore the bike down Looking for something that was not their ? Or Wasted my time searching for this muffler bearing

If you don't know what a muffler bearing is, should you REALLY be tearing down your 250R? Don't call me an ass because you don't have the simple know-how (it's common sense :crazy: ) to figure out I was joking.

ceaserthethird

10-06-2006, 07:35 PM

Quite new to this Sport , April 2006 ....

Just Learning the Basic at this moment , I come here for HELP , not to be mislead !!!

Think about it , it's common sense

gotballs 250r 82

10-06-2006, 07:58 PM

Dont think Howdy would think it is funny. This site is to help people not *Edited**Edited**Edited**Edited* them up.

traxxasx

10-07-2006, 04:42 AM

Yea thats only a cool joke to people that get into the sport because they think it will make them cool, or they just have the money to waste. But for a simple person just wanting to have fun and love the sport its not cool, exspecially when there new to the sport.

ceaserthethird

10-09-2006, 12:13 PM

SYKO

10-09-2006, 12:31 PM

hey you guys need to quit screwing with this guy, hes a fellow trike enthusiat.
any ways ceaser check your cdi unit, sounds like it or the coil may have went out, aslo sheck the spark plug cap, many of them come unscrewed and pull out somewhat from the coil wire, the ground wire is near the end of the wiring harness under the seat my the ac reg may have to take it off clean and reground, its a pain in the ass to located electricla problems, I jsut recently repalced the stator, wirring harneess, cdi and coil to get my R going again, good luck

jason85atc250r

10-09-2006, 09:35 PM

work on the 250R this weekend but no luck , i had spark few days ago.

Now No Spark - So i clean the connection's , Coil ( boot slide's off ) but i clean it.

CDI clean with electronic clean , Stator , AC regulator connections , After i clean them i added the Electronic Grease on the connections...

Still No Spark -

Where's the Ground ?

Should i change to a Ricky Stator or OEM Honda Stator ?

i had a 86 atc250r that would do the same thing after i washed it no spark. moister was getting in the flywheel cover and cuasing it . leave your cover off for a couple days and try starting it. just start it with the cover off it dont hurt anything.

i figured it out after it would not start and i pulled the cover got mad and left it sit apart. a couple days later it fired rite up after siting with the cover off. i put it all together and rode it i went to start it a week later and the same thing. condensation kept getting in there and causing it to loose spark from sitting in my shed.