What parts interchange between a 1983 Honda ATC 200 and the rest of the 200's

[timex69]

Hey
I just bought a 1983 Honda ATC 200 and was wondering what other parts of the 200 series parts interchange for this trike. If someone could help me out I would appreciate it.

Alex

[atctim]

I'll try my best:

All engines will drop in (200s, 185, 185s, **200M, **200ES(big red) **NOTE may be clearance issues with electric start and frame. Even the 200X will drop in.

As far as fenders go - noting else fits - neither front or rear, although a little creativity wil go a long way here. Rear axles are different between models too. The 200M and 200ES share the same rear fenders exept decals of coarse.

You can swap front ends as the neck on all models listed above have the same neck diameter and length - so you could put a 200s or even a 200X front end on your ATC200 (by front end I mean triples - forks - axle tire fender brakes etc).

185s and 200s share common fron fenders as well as headlight buckets and headlights. ATC200 and 200M share common headlight and headlight buckets.


Front and rear brakes will interchange between all models listed above as well except for the 200X which is disk brakes.

Carbs will all swap out, but I believe that all air boxes are only common to their respective machines. Again. some creativeness will go a long way here.

The ATC200s and 185s have 8" wheels - the ATC200, ATC185, ATC200M and ATC200ES have 9" wheels. 200s and 185s have 4 / 130 bolt patterns while the M, ES and plain 200 have 4 / 150 bolt patterns. Pre 1983 ATC200 have split rims - 1983 and after are 1 piece. All models fit modern quad hubs - which is a great swap out for 4 / 110 modern aluminum wheels.

Also - I believe (except for the 200X) all 200 series have common front and rear axle beaings.

Hope that helps - ask if I missed something you are wondering about.

Tim

[russell56443]

Great info,maybe this should be a sticky?

[burnoutboy]

Thought I would chip in here...

For ATC200e, you will have to notch the frame or remove the electric starter. The rest is a direct drop on.

Atc 200e/es/m fuel tank fits right up to the ATC 200.

Front and rear brake components are the same.

There are many other components that interchange such as throttle assemblies, handlebars e.t.c

[Russell 350X]

Basically anything from the 200/200S/200E/185/185S series will work. Electric start will take mod. if you swap motors ,but basically all the parts interchange, with exception of the axel and some modle fenders. The 200's had a bolt on set up, the 185s had a single piece.Carbs all all the same also, unless you count the 200X.

[team-red-rider]

all 185's/200's EXCEPT the X were 22mm the X was 24mm

[200xman]

If you need any parts let me know. I just picked up 5 83 200's. Here's a link.

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=64363

[82'185s]

I think the question should be...what doesnt fit.

[rally4x4racer]

axles do not swap?

[toolman0114]

I have a 1983 185s, I want to add a battery and charging system, will the regulator/rectifier harness from a 200e plug into my harness and work? thanx.

[rdlsz24]

You might be better off using the complete 200e wiring harness. Do you just want the battery for 12v accessories?

Rob

[toolman0114]

I just want it to power accessories, not to power a starter, I got a small winch for free and thought i might be able to power it if i added a battery and charging harness.

[leevarnado]

also the 200es has a drive shaft.if u were to use the top end of a 200x on a 200m,e,es u will have to either grind down the fins or slightly bend the frame so that u have clearance for the starter.

[Midnite_rider]

Great thread. I know it is old.... but so am I. I just acquired an 83 200. I have yet to get it started, but I think I can get it running.

[tri again]

Great thread. I know it is old.... but so am I. I just acquired an 83 200. I have yet to get it started, but I think I can get it running.

Actually, the tou and rules ask us to continue with threads NO matter how old they are.

IF you can find a small lawnmower gas tank (or clean yours to perfection) and start with cleanclean fuel supply, should prob go thru the carb and then run it to make sure it shifts, THEN you can spend time making it pretty and fixing little stuff.

Oh, and change to oil too if it's been sitting.

New trikes are fun to get going.

[Terry Ray]

i need parts i got a 83 200 dont know if its a S,ES,M,E would u know?

[1984 honda 200s]

would an axel from a 200M fit the 200s? i got it all appart right now.. my 200s carrier bearrings are garbage. i picked up a parts 200m and it has a good straight solid axel+ carrier, so id like to swap it out..

[wheelz420]

Will a 185 rear plastic fit a 200?

[DSHOT59]

I know the 200 S model didn`t start till 84, I have an 83 and it`s just called the atc 200. And for wheelz the rear plastics on mine are the two piece in 84 they are one piece on the 200 S I think so It depends on the year I guess not so much the model and if one piece or two seperate sides. Hope that helps some.

[Degoragon]

Will a 185 rear plastic fit a 200?

is the the 1980 185 (non S) or is it a 185S? the Regular 185 (1980 only) should fit, but the 81-83 185s will NOT fit.

[ps2fixer]

Headlight ring is the same part number for ATC200 (81-83) and 200E and FL250 81-84. Most of those machines have the same part number for the bucket too, so I suspect the headlight as a whole unit would be interchangable on them. The ring is slightly different than the 200ES, but am pretty sure as a whole unit they swap between each other as well.

Ignition switch is the same for the 200E, ES, M (84 only) and 125M (84 only)

Of what I have seen so far, all or nearly all 200 series heads interchange, same should be true for the cyl. 200x was higher compression, longer stroke or something so it could be an upgrade for nearly any 200 from my understanding (i know 100% it is true for the 200s).

Tool box lid (trunk) is the same part number for all 200 big reds and 200m, so the tool box might interchange between models too, but talk light brackets and such might be different.

I think most of the bottom ends are the same for chain vs shaft drive. Even heard a chain drive can be converted to shaft drive with the right parts, unconfirmed though. The exception to this is the 200x since the brake lever is mounted on the engine and overall the bottom end is quite a lot different looking, and it being the only one that is kick start.

I'm sure there are tons more things in common between the machines, but that is everything I can think of off hand.

[Dave409787]

Old thread to dredge up, but will 200s forks fit a 200es. I’d want to use ES fender, wheel, brake and axle, and switch out handle bar clamp for my neutral and reverse light. Headlamp brackets appear different but I can weld the tabs on, just my ES are seized and I believe that means they’re toast?
Also will 200s rear fenders fit a big red 290ES and also are the exhaust cans the same? Oh, and the CDI and keyed ignition?
Many thanks

[shortline10]

Nope on everything ! Forks are much small on the 200s

[Dave409787]

Good to know before I buy all those bits, thank you. Is it possible to rebuild the 200es forks, or best to weld them up rigid?

[ps2fixer]

The 200S didn't have a factory ignition switch. If you mod the wiring for it, it will function the same though, black and green wires are for the kill side of the ignition switch. The other two wires are for the lights/battery power, but since the 200S wasn't designed for a battery, it would take some pretty major rewiring to make the lights go on/off with the ignition switch. Mounting the ignition switch would be a task for you to figure out though, I don't have the research done for that yet.



What year is your 200S? If the connector matches the basic function of the CDI's should interchange file. The 200ES does have a safety system built into the CDI while the 84-85 200S one doesn't, so some mods would be required to the wiring to trick the safety system in the 200ES CDI.

Here's the stock marking for the two CDI's

84 200ES - CI-42 (969)
84-85 200S (and several others) - CF433 (968)


You can also make this CDI work too, but requires replacing the plug on your harness or running an adapter.

81-83 ATC200 (and several others 83 and older) - CI-08

On the front end questions, it might be possible to swap the whole front end if the neck of the frame is the same height and size around for the bearings. I don't know if those two exact models match up or not though. Sometimes there's some mods needed for the steering stopper too.

So short answer as you've already gotten above, nope nothing interchanges, but with some work/mods atleast some does.

[Dave409787]

Thank you, seems like a new me starter and that I should just stick with my 200ES parts and repair or replace as necessary, just seems very difficult to find 84 200 Es parts.

Any ideas on rebuilding the original front forks?

[ps2fixer]

The 84 ATC200ES was the most common/sold machine out of them all, however the front forks being bad is very common. There's a front end swap that's pretty common to do, but I can't recall which machine the front end comes from, maybe like an atc200m? I just remember it was the style with more normal shocks.

[Jd110]

One idea is to disassemble and inspect all parts. If the springs are okay and fork sliders aren’t pitted too bad, you might be fine.

[Thatoneguy23]

How would I power accessories for my 83 200

[ps2fixer]

How would I power accessories for my 83 200

The ATC200 generates around 50w AC power unregulated (lights normally use 100% of the energy generated while on). Regulator/rectifier tied to the stator wiring and put the output to a battery for charging for smooth power delivery, and you have pretty clean 12v dc power. Hondaline had a kit that did this but it was very uncommon for people to buy since it's a fairly expensive setup and you get a battery but still no electric start and the charging system doesn't really work while the lights are on since all of the power goes to the lights.

[ATC King]

How would I power accessories for my 83 200

You don't, without converting the system to DC.

You also need to describe what accessories. The charging systems on those won't handle much.

To convert to DC: https://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php/189953-ATC185S-200S-DC-Conversion-for-LED

I don't think I've covered it in that thread, but system inefficiencies because of the conversion mean even less power is available than stock. Just what happens when converting AC to DC.

Depending on what accessories you'd like to use, it may just be better to use ones that have their own power source (battery).

There are plenty of rechargeable LED lights that can be handlebar mounted, put out a lot of light, and will work for hours before needing recharged.

Mounts are available for rechargeable speakers. Plenty to choose from for ATV and motorcycle use.

I use an older handheld GPS, which doesn't have a bunch of dumb stuff like apps running the background, which means it will run all day on a couple AA. I have a handlebar mount for it.

Then of course there's phone mounts. All kinds of useful functions are on modern phones and there's a lot of waterproof mounts/cases available. They'll run down a battery pretty quickly if using a bunch of apps. A solution is to mount a battery pack for it to keep it charged. All pretty easy to do and reliable.

[TRIPOD guy]

The 200x has a shorter neck can't swap to older atc185 or atc200 front ends. 9 in rims 150mm 8in 2 piece rims 130mm, 83 and up 200x 250r 8in rims 110mm.