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nouseforaname90
03-05-2006, 10:14 PM
So. I am buying Derrick's awesome Tri-Z. Sounds perfect, right? WRONG! Buying this Z means that one of the other wheelers have to go.. I just can't afford 4 at 15. So.. what would you guys do?
The 350X has to stay.. it is my graduation project and I am halfway done with it.
So that leaves the 250SX or 250R to sell. Which would you guys sell?
I could probably sell the R with all of the extras (swinger, extra set of rims w/ tires all around, new rear tires, original plastics..) for $1500-2000. $1000 of that money would go to paying for the Z, and the extra would go to finishing the 350X project. Now the SX I would HAVE to get atleast $1500 out of it, because that is what I have into it.
I'm thinking about selling the R and keeping the Z for a kind of showpiece/racer (even though I probably won't race it much), keeping the SX for woods riding (the R definately isn't very good for that!), and keeping the X for a garage queen/yard cruiser.
What would you guys do? I hate to see any of the trikes go.. but I just can't afford them all..
The only reason I'm hesitant about selling the R is because it is faster than the Z (From what I have heard..), it has more HP than the Z, and it holds its value better than the Z.
I don't know.. give me opinions!! lol

firefirefire90
03-05-2006, 10:20 PM
My opinon, sell the SX. Then your 350x can be your trail, R can be al around, and Z can be the racer

nouseforaname90
03-05-2006, 10:24 PM
Well I'm mildly attatched to the SX.. lol. I'd sell it if it came to it, yes. But I could get much more money for the R, and I really need money right now. Unless I could get $1800-2000 for that SX, it really wouldn't be worth it.
Not to mention the reason I was thinking about selling that R is because it needs a new front brake hose and lever, and the rear caliper doesn't work because it is missing one of the hex bolts. They are easy fixes, but it needs much more than the Z or SX do..
I mean I would love to keep all 3 of the sport trikes.. but I don't think I could get $1800 for the SX, could I?

SpeedBump
03-05-2006, 10:29 PM
Sell the R, you can ALWAYS find decent 250Rs for sale. Keep the SX for Trails, as it would be the hardest to make a profit on and the sentimental value is higher as well. Resto on the 350X. Whatever ya do, you'll be ok. You got a stable of fine machines to play with.

nouseforaname90
03-05-2006, 10:31 PM
You can always find them for sale--on eBay, yes. But in my area, they are pretty well wiped out and hard to find..
When I am out of high school and through college and have a decent job in.. 10 years or so.. are there going to be any nice 250R's out there for a reasonable price? Thats my dilema and thats why I don't want to part with ANY of my trikes..

370banshee
03-05-2006, 10:35 PM
theres always a way to keep em........ if theres not a way. make a way haha.....

BigGreenMachine
03-05-2006, 10:40 PM
Don't judge the selling price by what you have spent on it. You'll barely ever get back the money you spent on it. I have over 4 large in my T3 and I'd be hard pressed to get 1500 for it around here.

Might add that the powervalved Z would kill that stock R.

nouseforaname90
03-05-2006, 10:49 PM
Well I saw an R on eBay that was exactly like mine (even had the torn seat cover, no taillight, and crappy headlight!!) go for $1700. I figure that I could squeeze $2000 out of mine because it has the +2" swinger, brand new chain, brand new front sprocket, and if I include the stock plastics, swinger, rims, tires, and the brand new Shredder's that came with it.

Tri-ZNate
03-05-2006, 11:14 PM
I say sell one 2 stroke and get another. Trade the R in

nouseforaname90
03-05-2006, 11:24 PM
Thats sort of what I am thinking. Have a 2 stroke sport bike, a 4 stroke sport bike, and a 4 stroke utility bike. A bike for all occasions..
It just sucks having to get rid of a trike!!!
Everyone out there knows what I'm talking about.
Oh well. If I can get $2000 or maybe a little less out of this R, I'll be satisfied.

bigredhead
03-05-2006, 11:59 PM
what ever you do... keep the SX....

I'm kinda very partial to the SX for personal reasons.. but as said above.. why have both an R and a Z.. and no SX....

You need to keep a ride to initiate new trikers to... i don't know if you let your friends ride your trikes at all.. but if you do it would be better to have friends on an SX than a 2 stroke or even the X.. lol...

crackshot
03-06-2006, 12:06 AM
Get rid of the SX. They are not a racing trike anyway and have bogus suspension.

370banshee
03-06-2006, 01:26 AM
keep em.. you'll regret selling any of them....... get a job at burger king if you have too..... and do yourself a favor..... keep the 2 strokes......

nouseforaname90
03-06-2006, 07:28 AM
I can't.. no matter how I cut it, I can't.
To get the SX, I used money that I saved up from Christmas and my birthday last year. To get the X, I used some of the money in my bank account, and to get the R, I took the rest of my money out of my bank account. I still have about $10,000 in bonds, stocks, and another bank account, but that is for college and I can't pull money from there. Hell.. I still have $3000 from the R and X to pay back into my bank account. If I keep the Z, that will make my debt $4000..

Bigred200
03-06-2006, 07:47 AM
Well what Ive seen from ebay sometime's it all depends on where you live some machines bring more money in different states then other's if I had the money I would come get one of them from you but as alot of others I'm broke as well and hopefully be starting a new job this week good luck whatever you do.

350x'inNY
03-06-2006, 08:12 AM
I got an idea.... don't buy the Z from Derrick and keep a pure stable of Honda's! :D I'm sure Kintore would back me up on this one! hahahaa

jason85atc250r
03-06-2006, 01:45 PM
i agree with 350x'inNY just dont bother getting the tri'z. the 85 atc 250r is a way better trike. better suspension and handling. you 'll regret getting rid of it.

nouseforaname90
03-06-2006, 03:45 PM
No.. I want the Tri-Z. It is just alot better looking than my R and needs alot less work. It is in my better interest to get the Z, because that way I will have to sell a trike which means I will make money; which I need.. badly.

Kintore
03-06-2006, 04:29 PM
I got an idea.... don't buy the Z from Derrick and keep a pure stable of Honda's! :D I'm sure Kintore would back me up on this one! hahahaa
LOL!:lol:
Nah its ok now, im going to try and find a yz and do the swap. I want to do it like Nathan and find a 83 direct bolt in. :w00t:

Nouse- Sell the R IMO. You want the Z so bad take that, sell the R and get some money back. Like you said on msn, theres always more trikes out there.

03 ORANGE SHEE
03-06-2006, 07:27 PM
can you post some pics of the r?? i want a r, but $2000 is way out of my price range unless its mint

dizasterzrfun69
03-06-2006, 07:33 PM
can you post some pics of the r?? i want a r, but $2000 is way out of my price range unless its mint


I believe he only paid like $1000 or $1200 and that was just a few weeks ago. I sure as hell wouldnt give $2000.


Kevin

dizasterzrfun69
03-06-2006, 07:40 PM
well i was wrong, he didnt say what he payed for it ( i just checked the thread from when he got it). I'd say it's worth about 1500 with the extra parts.

dizasterzrfun69
03-06-2006, 07:42 PM
heres the link http://3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=48093

nouseforaname90
03-06-2006, 08:00 PM
I actually bought it for $1500. And since then I have put a new chain and front sprocket on there. I saw one in just the condition mine is in (even the torn seat cover) go on eBay the other day for $1800 w/o the extended swinger and extra parts.
If I sell this bike, the original plastics, swinger, rims, tires, and an extra set of Shredder's go with it.
I figured I can probly get $1800-2000 out of it on eBay, but I was going to offer it here on the forums for about $1600-1700 before I went eBay..
PM me if you're interested and I can tell you about it.

crackshot
03-06-2006, 08:12 PM
Dont sell the r. get rid of the sx!

nouseforaname90
03-06-2006, 08:13 PM
Nah.. the SX is my baby.. lol. The SX is my woods/trail/mudder.. and a very good one at that. The X is going to be my fun/cruiser trike, and the Z will be my racer.
I've decided that the Z is so much nicer than the R and so much more modded.. lol. The R has got to go.

crackshot
03-06-2006, 08:38 PM
I dont like the tri-z's personally. They have ugly style and have to take seat off to put gas in it!

nouseforaname90
03-06-2006, 08:48 PM
I've always liked Z's. Not to mention Derrick already has this Z set up for people my size, Z's are alot nicer to people my size, and I've been told that they have a lot softer ride than a 250R.. that means a softer suspension= not as good as an R for jumping.. but I'm not going to be jumping this Z.

crackshot
03-06-2006, 08:55 PM
I've always liked Z's. Not to mention Derrick already has this Z set up for people my size, Z's are alot nicer to people my size, and I've been told that they have a lot softer ride than a 250R.. that means a softer suspension= not as good as an R for jumping.. but I'm not going to be jumping this Z.

Heh. I don't jump either. Gettin' too old for that and might break a hip! :lol:
Plus I am not into unwanted repairs also.
Derrick seems like a straight up person from all I have read so I am sure you will get an awesome piece of equipment.
If it works for you, do what ya gotta do and be happy! :naughty:

seadoo650
03-06-2006, 09:02 PM
I can't.. no matter how I cut it, I can't.
To get the SX, I used money that I saved up from Christmas and my birthday last year. To get the X, I used some of the money in my bank account, and to get the R, I took the rest of my money out of my bank account. I still have about $10,000 in bonds, stocks, and another bank account, but that is for college and I can't pull money from there. Hell.. I still have $3000 from the R and X to pay back into my bank account. If I keep the Z, that will make my debt $4000..

When I read the title of this thread I knew what it was about. So let's see if I am getting this right. You have four of the most poplular sport trikes out and they're all in decent shape or soon will be and you're only $4000.00 in debt. WHAT"S THE PROBLEM? I'm sure there are many members on the forums that are way more in debt and don't have as many nice trikes as you will. So here is my advice (and remember you asked for it). :welcome: to the real world. We're all in debt but who cares it is the american way. You're still young and it sounds like you have a stable head on your shoulders. Especially for being only 15. Keep all the trikes sell other stuff or maybe the parts you don't need and with summer coming work your arse off to make up the deficit. Problem solved.

P.S. The R will be way faster than the Z. I've raced Derrick's Z with my stock 350X at TF-05 and I blew it away.HAHAHA. Just kidding derrick. But seriously we were side by side the whole way.

Also. Please don't take much of what I said seriously or be offended even though most of it is true.

I hope this helped.

nouseforaname90
03-06-2006, 09:12 PM
I would love to keep all 4. But the problem is that $1000 of the money isn't mine.. and I can't come up with $1000 very quick. $1000 of it (the money I'm buying the Z with) is my parents money from taxes, and they need the $1000 back my May 8th. I don't turn 16 until May 15th so I can't work to pay it back. I have about $500 in my one bank account that I still need to finish up the X, and I have alot in my other bank account.. but I can't touch that because it is for college and its in a 2 year (I think) CD right now..
Believe me.. if I had a way to keep all of these trikes, even if I owed myself $4000.. I would. But its not all my money.
My grandmother died about 2 months ago (:( that sucked!!), and she left me like $3000 in her will. I would be more than glad to use that money, but I won't be getting it for quite awhile.. they need to sell her house and all of her property, put the money into the estate, and only after everything is sold can they divy up the money.
But I'm sure I can find an R again some day, and maybe even a nicer one. They are quite easy to find in my area compared to Tri-Z's and 350X's. So for now, this one goes..

03 ORANGE SHEE
03-06-2006, 09:28 PM
thanks for the heads up kevin!;)

Derrick Adams
03-06-2006, 10:06 PM
When I read the title of this thread I knew what it was about. So let's see if I am getting this right. You have four of the most poplular sport trikes out and they're all in decent shape or soon will be and you're only $4000.00 in debt. WHAT"S THE PROBLEM? I'm sure there are many members on the forums that are way more in debt and don't have as many nice trikes as you will. So here is my advice (and remember you asked for it). :welcome: to the real world. We're all in debt but who cares it is the american way. You're still young and it sounds like you have a stable head on your shoulders. Especially for being only 15. Keep all the trikes sell other stuff or maybe the parts you don't need and with summer coming work your arse off to make up the deficit. Problem solved.

P.S. The R will be way faster than the Z. I've raced Derrick's Z with my stock 350X at TF-05 and I blew it away.HAHAHA. Just kidding derrick. But seriously we were side by side the whole way.

Also. Please don't take much of what I said seriously or be offended even though most of it is true.

I hope this helped.


Wasn't so close without the mud a month later was it? LOL
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14160&d=1122341471

nouseforaname90
03-06-2006, 10:15 PM
Haha. Geez! That Z just kind of spun sideways off the line.

370banshee
03-06-2006, 11:42 PM
I believe he only paid like $1000 or $1200 and that was just a few weeks ago. I sure as hell wouldnt give $2000.


Kevin


what somebody pays for something means nothing when selling it...


if somebody gave you a brand new car... would you sell it for $80 because thats what the oil change and airfilter costs.....

if he wants $2000 for it then great.......

cliff2302
03-07-2006, 02:08 PM
I agree sompletely with Seadoo650. I'm close to 30k in debt after college and i wont be selling any of my trikes. As you get older you'll realize that $4000 is nothing, it seems like alot when your young but it really isn't. If you get a good summer job and watch your spending you could easily pay off 2500.

nouseforaname90
03-07-2006, 04:13 PM
what somebody pays for something means nothing when selling it...


if somebody gave you a brand new car... would you sell it for $80 because thats what the oil change and airfilter costs.....

if he wants $2000 for it then great.......


He's right.. if you bought a mint 350X from someone for $2000, does that mean you would sell it for $2000?

And about what seadoo said.. thats not an option..
If it were my money that I paid for this R with, I would have no problem keeping it.. but its not and I can't exactly get a $1000 loan from anyone.. lol
My parents paid for the R with their tax money and they were going to take that $1000 out of my bank account on May 8th when they needed it, but after buying the Z I'm going to have only $500 in my bank account (most of which will be going towards the X), and I have to sell something to pay my parents back..

seadoo650
03-07-2006, 09:50 PM
Wasn't so close without the mud a month later was it? LOL
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14160&d=1122341471

Bring it on bigboy. I got a terrible hole shot if that is the vid I'm thinking of. I want another piece of that Z before ya get rid of it. Be honest though. The R would run circles around it.

nouseforaname90
03-07-2006, 09:53 PM
It looks like Derrick got a pretty bad holeshot too.. he lost quite a bit of time by going sideways before he got going..
And the Z is a nicer piece of equipment for less money than the R. Even after I get the Z ported, get a head job done, and put a bigger carb on it.. I'll still have less into the Z than the R..
I'm not going to be racing the Z much though.. I might enter a few at the fair grounds but thats about it.. I'm more into comfort at the moment.

cliff2302
03-08-2006, 02:24 AM
well, if thats the case, you gotta do what you gotta do, don't wanna mess around with your parents money, lol. Good luck selling it bud, doesn't seem like you'll have a problem, maybe your dad will buy it!

OZQUAD44
03-08-2006, 05:10 AM
I can't see the dilemma here

If you can't really afford a new bike, don't really buy a new bike.....

A lot of people would love what you've got already. How bout you fix up that poor unloved R a bit. From what you've told us it sounds a pretty easy to fix. I bet a lot of people wish they had your dilemmas.

Your lucky to have some machines there that you can still get spares for!

nouseforaname90
03-08-2006, 07:48 AM
I want the Z because 1) I've always loved the look of it and 2) its in way better condition than the R. Not to mention I'll be getting the Z for $500 less than the R, so if I sell the R for the price that I got it for, I will be saving myself $500..
And about fixing up the R, I would love to! I hate to see unloved trikes, but I wouldn't have any money to do that for atleast a year or two.. with this Z, I will be either a) saving myself $500 or b) saving myself $500 that I can use to mod the Z..

370banshee
03-10-2006, 12:21 AM
i say get a job...

not sure why you can't work until you get a dirvers liscence.. i started working at 12.... depending on where you live... shovel snow or mow grass for your nieghbors... every little bit counts....... you can keep em.. jsut depends how much you wanna work for it..... i agree with the if you can;t find a way to afford it then don;t buy it

Yamahauler
03-10-2006, 12:26 AM
Buy old beat up trikes, and part them out. You can make tonnes of money from that. Just dont part out complete machines that run. Thats just a waste.