View Full Version : putting a tire on your self?
Bender
02-23-2006, 12:55 PM
Whats the easiest way to put a tire on a rim? Its not a new tire so i figure i can do it myself but im just getting frustrated! Tell me your tricks.
crackshot
02-23-2006, 01:01 PM
Don't bother. Take it to tire shop and have them mount it.
kb200x
02-23-2006, 01:14 PM
I agree. Just take it to a tire shop its cheap and much much easier. I think i had two tires mounted with new valve stems for like 20 bucks.
Bender
02-23-2006, 01:16 PM
i dont want to spend 20 bucks!
chris200x
02-23-2006, 02:34 PM
Well I tried cutting one off once... ONCE!!! :lol: It was all fine and dandy till I got down to the beads and had to cut through several steel wires. :rolleyes:
You will find that if you don't have a bead breaker that $20 is a deal! In fact I got a new tire mounted up on my sx last week and they charged me $10 just for one... I had no problem handin over the cash. ;)
But If your hell bent on doing this yourself do a search here on the boards... I remember reading that someone used either a plank and thier car or truck to drive over the tire to break the bead. GOOD LUCK!!!
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=34357&highlight=bead+breaking
http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=30714&highlight=bead+breaking
3 weelin geezer
02-23-2006, 02:41 PM
don't be such a tightwad. Its a deal once you just slap the whole thing on the trike and get riding. I spent that much in time trying to get one off. I was very frustrated to the point of getting out the 'BIG hammer' and giving it 'the treatment' with said hammer. It was like it had been glued to the rim. The tire machine sure makes short work of that. Besides, they should just charge you around $5.00 per tire. Or it might be that they are charging you for the tire disposal fee. How many times are you going to spend that money changing tires anyways? Just be sure to get good tires for the type of terrain you will encounter and you wont have to change them all the time OR if you just like changing them, get a motorcycle tire bead breaker. OR use 2x4 technology.
crackshot
02-23-2006, 03:22 PM
I tried once and was a pain in the ass. The reason is they are a pain, is the rims are small and easy to bend.
I have busted tires off by hand on foklifts and heavy machinery easy because the rims are large and thick steel.
Just mow a few yards or odd jobs and take them to tire shop.
kb200x
02-23-2006, 03:23 PM
i dont want to spend 20 bucks!
If your going to do it your self. Cut the old tire off its not fun but easier than trying to get it off in one piece. Like chris was saying you will have to cut through the steel rings in the old tire. I used a couple of very large screw drivers to put the new tire on the rim. I understand trying to save a buck. You can do it but I learned the tire shop can do it better and faster. Good luck!
crd00
02-23-2006, 03:56 PM
you dont have to spend any money brining it to a tire shop and you dont have to waste your time trying to get it out there all you have to do is put gas around the edge of the tire when its on the rim,then light the gas and start kicking it, the tire will pop right on to the rim.......I do it all the time but MAKE SURE NOT TO USE TOO MUCH GAS,only use half a pepsi can full on one side of the tire(you have to do this to the 2 sides of the tire) when its on the rim just pump it up:w00t:
Iwantatrike
02-23-2006, 04:03 PM
Its alot easyier to take it to the shop and pay the money insted of going through the hassle of putting it on by yourself.
chris200x
02-23-2006, 04:06 PM
you dont have to spend any money brining it to a tire shop and you dont have to waste your time trying to get it out there all you have to do is put gas around the edge of the tire when its on the rim,then light the gas and start kicking it, the tire will pop right on to the rim.......I do it all the time but MAKE SURE NOT TO USE TOO MUCH GAS,only use half a pepsi can full on one side of the tire(you have to do this to the 2 sides of the tire) when its on the rim just pump it up:w00t:
I've done that with a truck tire and some starter fluid. :naughty: Getting the tire off is the hard part...
crd00
02-23-2006, 04:28 PM
ya thats the hard part.....I just either cut the tire off if its no good or i use crow bars and screw drivers to get it off
wanta86r
02-23-2006, 04:37 PM
I've learned that you can ruin things very easily by trying to save a buck. Ever heard of having the right tools for the job? You don't pound nails with your fist, do you? No, you use a hammer. See my point? If you dont have 10.00 to change a tire on you trike, then you have no business even riding at all. You have to pay to play! Best advice is to either buy a good tire changing tool, or have it done by someone who has that tool.
crd00
02-23-2006, 04:44 PM
Not to come across as arguing but I've learned to save a buck. You could take that $20 and use it for something more useful like putting gas in your bike or putting it toward a part you need for your bike, my idea that I mentioned is easy, and it only takes about 2-3 min to do.The hardest part about it is putting the gas into the cup:lol:
TimSr
02-23-2006, 04:59 PM
Whats the easiest way to put a tire on a rim? Its not a new tire so i figure i can do it myself but im just getting frustrated! Tell me your tricks.
Are you talking about just mounting a tire on a rim, or are you talking about removing an old? If your just mounting a tire on an empty rim, it takes about 60 seconds, a pair of large screwdrivers, and a little very soapy water for lube. If your talking about removing one from a rim, take it to somebody with a tire machine.
diggerzmound
02-23-2006, 05:01 PM
It is a very easy task, installing tires yourself. Use plenty of Dishsoap and you can do it easily. Mos wheels are offset, what you want to do is look at the wheel and mount the tire from the side of the wheel that has the least bead area. Look at the rim diagram, install your tire on the side closest to the recess. With the wheel laying on the ground and the tire soaped up, put the tire on crooked with half of the tires bead in the recession, and then use a screwdriver or prybar to work the rest on. Tak your time and put a rag on your screwdriver to prevent scratches. The use a lil more soap when you are trying to air it up to allow the tire to bead to the rim.
fhportal
02-23-2006, 09:03 PM
If you have more bead locks you cut through the old tire and use a dremmel tool with a cutting disc to make short order of the bead lock "cables".. best things I found for cutting them.. of course I did this on two piece rims... never dealt with one piecers...
Stuka Dude
02-23-2006, 09:24 PM
I've been looking at the tire changing set-ups on EBay. They are about 70 bucks... in the long run, depending on how many toys you have, this could be a money saver. Also, one of the guys on this board mentioned Harbor Freight tools sells these tire changers also.... check it out. :beer
el Pollo
02-23-2006, 09:54 PM
Sometimes it's easier to shell out a Jackson to have someone else take on the headache. Using proper machinery 9euro tire changer) it's a cake walk. Just air up the tire to 5psi and break one bead. Then air it up again to 5 psi, and break the other bead.
Doing it yourself is a major pain. the bead locks are huge for a small tire to prevent the tire from falling off at such a low air pressure. And thick bead bundles on some tires doesn't make it easier either.
For $70 for a tire changer, I'd be skeptical. I'm sure that with the proper training it will be easy. But if you're not well versed in using the machine, you could seriously injure yourself.
Weigh in the pros and cons before attempting such a task.
Bryan Raffa
02-23-2006, 10:16 PM
if your going to do it your self get the old one off by any means possible then look at the rim the back side has a deeper dish and the out side has a smaller dish this is where the bead seats to the center of the rim (usally)... start with the small side first when mounting tire make shure the tire is the right way if it a directional this allows the bead to go right on because it can slip over the edge the small dish in the rim allowing you to get the tire on and when takeing it off do the small side first verry easy!!!! jusT like above
atckowalski
02-24-2006, 01:18 AM
To do it yourself you need three things, Lube, Leverage and Lube.
Bryan Raffa
02-24-2006, 11:37 PM
ya thats what she said!!!!!!! sounds like a personal pref. to me!!!!LMAO
dufrain
02-25-2006, 12:21 AM
Jc whitney has a bead breaker for about 50 or 60 bux,I have broken down every tire I have installed on a rim for a long time with it Including truck tires.It will break the bead down.I just took broke down some original wamulass tires on a set of 110 wheels that had been on there since 79.Use real tire irons instead of screwdrivers,they are longer and have the right shape. Northerntool has them for 8-10 bux each,i Have been using mine for 4 or 5 years now.Definately use plenty of dishsoap.A good way to air up a tubeless tire that being a pain is leave out the valve core and use a clamp on air chuck that has the center out of it.It lets in alot more volume so you can get the bead to seat.Once you do a few tires and learn your technique its not that big of a deal. I can go to the tire shop when I need to ,its not the money issue it the hassle of driving over there and waiting around for them to get to it.I can have it done and airing it up by the time I could just drive to the tire shop.
Howdy
02-25-2006, 12:32 AM
Jc whitney has a bead breaker for about 50 or 60 bux,I have broken down every tire I have installed on a rim for a long time with it Including truck tires.It will break the bead down.I just took broke down some original wamulass tires on a set of 110 wheels that had been on there since 79.Use real tire irons instead of screwdrivers,they are longer and have the right shape. Northerntool has them for 8-10 bux each,i Have been using mine for 4 or 5 years now.Definately use plenty of dishsoap.A good way to air up a tubeless tire that being a pain is leave out the valve core and use a clamp on air chuck that has the center out of it.It lets in alot more volume so you can get the bead to seat.Once you do a few tires and learn your technique its not that big of a deal. I can go to the tire shop when I need to ,its not the money issue it the hassle of driving over there and waiting around for them to get to it.I can have it done and airing it up by the time I could just drive to the tire shop.
Got to love having proper tools. I have some pry bars that work very simular to the regular tire tools. I also have plenty of screw drivers. I also have a hydralic press with a bead breaker set up in it. Makes tire changing a lot easier. ;)
Howdy
Unclediezel
02-25-2006, 03:51 AM
To the guys with the gas and starting fluid----You didnt remind him to take the valve core out---
Without an escape route that little tire can and probably will blow right over the beads----also large CONCRETE work area is preferable over grass
200xman
02-25-2006, 07:22 AM
Just remember to be careful. I have one of those small tire changers and it works great as long as you are paying attention. Having a buddy around doesn't hurt either. This is what can happen if you're not careful.
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