Name your Favorite 2 Stroke Oil

[kloby]

Lets hear all those different oils everyone is using. I use Klotz Benol. Nothing but the best:naughty:

[atvnut]

amsoil 100:1 run at 80:1

[kloby]

Wow. whats your jetting like ?

[MTS]

AmsOil Run at 50:1.... and Yamalube 2-R works allright too.

[Mosh]

maxima 927 44-1.runs great no problems

[crackshot]

Well as soon as my bearing carrier comes in and installed, I will probably use Maxima Castor or the Klotz 32:1

[kloby]

Why did you all choose your specific oil ?

[Bryan Raffa]

blensall is the bomb!

[Mosh]

never seen a 2 stroke blow on maxima oil.pulled my stock 600 hour banshee down with it and still had crosshatch in the cylinder bores.i was sold from that moment on.plus i like the smell

[twgranger]

Klotz R50 synthetic.

[kloby]

really? when i ask most people they just say, " well i was told it was good " and never experienced anything. my whole family has run Klotz its whole life, and i love the smell of Benol mixed with VP Racing 110 octane. :naughty:

[3Razors]

Pennzoil Pure Premium synthetic blend. yep 20:1. $10 a gallon at wally world.

[MTS]

Why did you all choose your specific oil ?
Amsoil...caus its the best of course :lol: No im not to picky, but i have here alot of problems with the Benoil Stuff and Castor 927....

[kloby]

Pennzoil Pure Premium synthetic blend. yep 20:1. $10 a gallon at wally world.


Have you had any problems with that stuff? I don't beleive i've ever bought anything for my trike from wal-mart

[MTS]

Have you had any problems with that stuff? I don't beleive i've ever bought anything for my trike from wal-mart
If its anything like there motor oil its Junk...Parfinwax...no thanks...lol

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

WHAT! you mean im supposed to mix oil and gas on my tri-z ?:wondering no wonder it screams!:lol:

[kloby]

Kinda what I thought about the whole deal, but thought i would get an opinion from an actual user in a trike.

[kloby]

WHAT! you mean im supposed to mix oil and gas on my tri-z ?:wondering no wonder it screams!:lol:



-lmfao- :lol:

[3Razors]

Have you had any problems with that stuff? I don't beleive i've ever bought anything for my trike from wal-mart

Ive been running it for about 7 years now in all my trikes, dirtbikes, jet skis. No seizures or breakdowns and it burns really clean. Rotax actually recommends it for there motors in ultralights. Dont be scared to try it.

[kloby]

I'll definately take that into consideration on my next Trike project. Since Klotz sponsors my freestyle motox, i just go with it now :lol:

[3Razors]

Cool, there are alot of really quality oils out there. I just go with the Pennzoil because of the ease of convenience. (every town has walmart) and the price.

[kloby]

very true..... I get my Klotz delivered to my door :naughty: otherwise i would haveta drive 50 miles to get it

btw .... killer avatar pic. your trike ?

[honda200]

I run Klotz in everything, including my 2 stroke street bike

Curtis

[willcamach]

ive been using motul 800 and its damb near smokeless pretty good stuff from what i can tell. as for the reason i run it this may be silly but i have a plastic tank that was once red and now is sorta orange in color and its the only 2 stroke oil i found that was red and when i fill up the tank with fuel and this oil it almost looks red again lol..... ( i used their 600 grade and it worked well also but it was Green and made my tank look almost brown when full,)

[TimSr]

Blue Marble at 50:1. Cant sell it if Im not running it!

[kloby]

Tim, what is your opinion on the Blue Marble? I've heard nothing but good things about it. Since you sell it, i figure you could give a decent perspective :lol:

[3Razors]

Blue marble could actually probably save the 2 stroke motor from being extinct! It burns the cleanest!

[kloby]

Thats extremely high thoughts about that brand. :lol:

[3Razors]

From what I remember a college university did an independent test with some 2 stroke snowmobiles. They tested all the snowmobiles emissions for pollutants expelled through the exhaust. All the top quality synthetics were run and blue marble came out on top. It was something like a fourstroke motor polluted just as a 2 stroke running with blue marble. The watercraft and outboard community really like it for that reason because it keeps the lakes clean.

[kloby]

Wow. See, i've always wanted to be apart of an experiment like that. That is awesome.

[Old 179]

Maxima 927 "32 to 1". Gas is 1/2 93 octane, and 1/2 110-115 octane

[kloby]

Why do you mix your gas 1/2 93 and 1/2 110? i've never heard of that

[Old 179]

Around 85-87 I would use 93 unleaded and turbo blue 115. Octane would be around 104. Before that, it was the best unleaded and the best leaded gas.
there was thought at that time that by mixing the two that a chemical reaction would raise the octane higher then either one. If it did or not, who knows!

[kloby]

Interesting perspective. Might haveta have me a little experiment :naughty:

[MTS]

I find BM Burns alot Hotter/leaner it didnt work to well in the cr500 doin WOT constantly....started overheating somewhat but was fine with amsoil and moutul...

[kloby]

how did that CR run at WOT ?

[MichiganRedneck]

Amsoil Interceptor

[Lomax]

Castor 927 at 40:1 mix on 93 octance in the old 250r. Seems to work really good for me. I like Klotz but I dont carry it here at my store and I was told that the Castor was good so I went with that. So far it seems to be, it hasnt blown up again lol...

[kloby]

- lol - again ...... ive heard good things about maxima too, but everybody and there brother talks about Blue Marble

[OldSchoolin86]

Lets hear all those different oils everyone is using. I use Klotz Benol. Nothing but the best:naughty:
I used to run Benol but I found the performance and longevity that Super Techniplate offers to be better. Blends are the best IMO. 50:1 mix here on most things, even the chainsaw.:lol:

[kloby]

Really? Never used the Techniplate. I did use the R50 in my old race bike ( 02 YZ 250 ) but it seemed like i was rebuilding after every race. :wondering

[crackshot]

I used to run castor in my Kawi triple, my yamaha twin air cooled street racers.
Red lined them all the time and NEVER blew a motor and I ran them hard, I mean REALLY HARD. Castor sold me from then on.

[breastman569]

Klotz Super Techniplate is the way to go with the older bikes not only does it smell good but it has about 20% caster in it to lube up the engine and there is nothing wrong with a little LUBE!

[kloby]

Klotz Super Techniplate is the way to go with the older bikes not only does it smell good but it has about 20% caster in it to lube up the engine and there is nothing wrong with a little LUBE!


Absoutely not! - lol - I LOVE the smell of Benol. but its 100% Castor :naughty:

[OldSchoolin86]

Really? Never used the Techniplate. I did use the R50 in my old race bike ( 02 YZ 250 ) but it seemed like i was rebuilding after every race. :wondering
Not a fan of R50. I've got a bottle of it in the shed that I use only when I'm out of ST. I think when you cut out all the Benol you loose something.

[kloby]

Thats why I use 100% Benol :)

[OldSchoolin86]

Thats why I use 100% Benol :)
http://www.3wheeler.org/vb/images/smilies/doh.gifLOL, that's funny.

[kloby]

hmmmm ..... interesting :crazy:

[OldSchoolin86]

hmmmm ..... interesting :crazy:
I think you missed the bennifits of a blend part. ;)

[TimSr]

Tim, what is your opinion on the Blue Marble? I've heard nothing but good things about it. Since you sell it, i figure you could give a decent perspective :lol:

I read all the hype and was somewhat skeptical about "power gains" and that kind of stuff, but figured Id give it a try, and if it performed as well as the BellRay MC1 Id been running for many years, Id keep it for the mere fact that it was almost half the cost. Also, its a mineral oil base with synthetic componets which means its fully biodegradeable, and enviromentally friendly. Boaters like it because it wont leave rainbow oil slicks on top of the water. When properly tuned and conditioned, you get very little exhaust smoke, so its great for indoor motocross.
I tried it first in my TriZ as Ive had it many many years and know it better than my own body. After about 20 minutes I had to turn down the idle screw which had not been touched in about 12 years. No other variables, and my bikes motor was now running faster! I also noticed an increase in low end power. It wasnt dramatic, but it was noticeable. Then I converted my TRX250R, TimJrs E-Ton, and later My Quad-Z and saw similar results. TimJrs E-Ton had NO visible smoke! My R wouldnt quit smoking until I repacked the silencer. Eventually I parted out the TRX250R to sell it. When I tore the top end down, I was amazed. While MC1 burned pretty clean, and I was very happy with it, the Blue Marble cleaned all the MC1 residue off, and left a smooth light brown color that looked like somebody put shoe polish on the head dome and piston top. No carbon, or anything rough. My TriZ is already enjoying a new record on cylinder life since the last bore.
Blue Marble results in less friction, as noted by my idle speed increase, and that means cooler temps. It also runs richer than most premixes, other than castors, and some of the Maxima oils. While plugs were reluctant to foul with it, they were visibly rich but looked different than a typically rich plug (not black). I ended up dropping jetting from 470to 410 on my TriZ, and down to a 420 on my Quad Z. My R went from 150 to 145. I also began to get farther on a tank of gas as noted in metered ATV rallys.
Its a great quality oil. Is it over hyped? Maybe, but what I do know for sure from my own uses is that there are real power gains to be made, it burns very clean, my motors last at least as long as the best sythetics, and it burns richer, so you need to tune to it to realize the power gains.

[breastman569]

Absoutely not! - lol - I LOVE the smell of Benol. but its 100% Castor :naughty:

HAHAHAHA! after flying modle airplanes there is nothing like the smell of caster!

[kloby]

It sounds like Blue Marble is a winner, I will try it in my R, see how things go. Can't go in the bike, sponsored by Klotz so i kinda gotta use it. :lol:

[Tri-ZNate]

See I'm a cheap kinda guy but I like things that work well too. Well at the dollar store I always stock up on Multi-Mix Universal 2 cycle engine oil. Mix it at 32:1 and I love it. I only run it in the Chrysler snowmobile though

[willcamach]

man and to think i picked out my oil cause of the color lmao!!!!
now i wonder if its any good or if im paying for a name. anyone here use motul 800?

[kloby]

Good buddy of mine uses it. No problems so far ( he uses it in a 04 YZ250 )

[nimda78]

man and to think i picked out my oil cause of the color lmao!!!!
now i wonder if its any good or if im paying for a name. anyone here use motul 800?


i ran Motul 800 in a kymco super 9 liquid cooled 50cc scooter for a year, and i never fouled a plug. basicly flogged the bike everyday and the motor was still as fresh as it was when broke in on 100% petroleum based oil. its super friendly with oil injection systems. i also use it in my saws and string trimmers because its a low or no smoke premix too. i highly recommend it.

the 600 and 800 are both nicely colored oils, cant hold that against ya

[willcamach]

i agree in my original post i stated i liked the 800 cause it made my orange tank look red again lol but it does seem to burn clean there is barely any smoke after the engine warms up. my mechanic told me i should run honda hp2 but i went with the motul cause of the color. now im just glad its not crap oil.
sorry to jack This thread but i have a question about switching oils. is it true that you should stick to the same type of oil all the time or is it okay to switch between brands.

[kloby]

I switched from Yamalube 2-R to Klotz Benol in my 85 R, no problems

[willcamach]

thats cool. but im talking about going from brand to brand not sticking with one brand just buying whatever oil you grab first does that affect your engine life or anything else?

[kloby]

Well the qualities of different oils are different. If you start w/ Super Tech from Wal-mart its not gonna be as good as Klotz, AMSoil, or any other top quality brand.

[MTS]

man and to think i picked out my oil cause of the color lmao!!!!
now i wonder if its any good or if im paying for a name. anyone here use motul 800?
Its a great oil!! we use it in all the high revin go-karts...never seen a problem! excpet at 25:1 man is that stuff SMOKEY....lol

[TimSr]

thats cool. but im talking about going from brand to brand not sticking with one brand just buying whatever oil you grab first does that affect your engine life or anything else?

Certain oils do not mix with other oils, so you should drain tank completely before switching. Also, your carb should be tuned for the mix you are going to run. Changing your mix, may, and very often does require changes in carburation. So, if you want to top off every other day without drainng your tank with whatever happens to be handy, you can expect your bike to run like crap most of the time, and if you make a really wrong choice one day, could cuase some serious damage.

[willcamach]

yikes that sounds like a headache. i guess iw ill stick with the motul ive been using. i was just curious about the blue marble oil it sounds like good stuff but ive never seen it for sale localy.

[kloby]

yikes that sounds like a headache. i guess iw ill stick with the motul ive been using. i was just curious about the blue marble oil it sounds like good stuff but ive never seen it for sale localy.


Now that you mention it, i've never seen any around here either, here about people running it, but never asked where they got it :wondering

[Fox250R]

Hum! Didn't hear one thing about HP2 LOL! Am i using the wrong oil? :idea:

[69HemiGTX]

Maxima Castor 927 mixed at 50:1 for me. :cool:

[Fox250R]

i use to run klots in my 86 a few years back but for some reason i've been using hp2 and it seems to run ok i guess! I just need to figure out how to pull 6th :) lol

[1984kxtTECATE]

Hum! Didn't hear one thing about HP2 LOL! Am i using the wrong oil? :idea:


Im with you on that one, Im sold on HP2 its spendy but its fully synthetic contray to some peeps thoughts about it. I run it at 32:1 in my Tecate and the same is going to happen for the Tri-Z.

As far as Klotz R50, I will never use that stuff agian, both me and blazer seized are bikes down at the coast, and I have a feeling it was because we were both running R50 in our bikes, not to mention Ive heard other stories through the grapvine about it. I havnt tried any of the other klotz products.

[88 Turbo Coupe]

I use Amsoil TDR Dominator @100:1. I tore down my 250 and found that all the parts were coated with a blue/green film. No signs of wear. Never had a problem with throttle response. Always snappy. I also used yamalube R2. Not as reponsive on the throttle though. Also all 3 jets in my mikuni are right. Have you looked inside of your engine latley to see whats going on?????

[jsimonh]

I use Blue Marble and love it. Just drop TimSr a pm and he'll have it on your door in a few days. It would be nice to be able to buy something locally, but my options are limited.

[willcamach]

how much does a the blue marble stuff cost?

[TimSr]

how much does a the blue marble stuff cost?

Blue Marble is only sold by Blue Marble dealers, and dealers are limited by geographic areas so they arent competing with each other. Thats not a problem with the invention of Fedex!

The price has increased as of Jan 1st, but Im still making it available to 3WW board members at the old cost until my current lot of 82 gallons is gone. That price is $29.95 per gallon + $4 shipping in cont. US. Two or more gallons gets free shipping. I also have the 13oz bottles, two for $15.95, free shipping in US.

The new price is $32.95 per gallon.

[willcamach]

wow thats not bad i may just order some when im done with my current batch of oil

[Russell 350X]

Penziol(spelling?) lol, I'm a cheap SOB, but it has never gave me a problem with the sleds.


Russ

[ceaserthethird]

Any thought's on - Honda HP2 Oil ?

[350Xhilaration]

I used HP2 in a KX125 for about 6 or 7 years. Never rebuilt it or tore it down for that matter to see what the inners looked like. Must have been ok cause it ran like a scalded dog. It never fouled a plug while running 32:1.

I used some non-synthetic oil once in it. It was a Sunday and I was out of oil except for the weedwacker oil. I mixed some up, put it in and was being pulled out of the woods a few hours later.

I've been running Yamalube semi synthetic (I think it's semi) in the banshee because the guy I bought it off of threw in a case of oil.

When I run out I'll switch to something else. Should be sometime in the next decade as often as I ride.

I also ran Bel-Ray MC1 for a few months in the KX before switching to HP2. I never had any problems with it, but heard some stories of guys calling it "black death". No proof of anything harmful, just stories. I switched to HP2 after a friends recommendation.

[atcsteve]

All my bikes run only HP2.You cant beat this stuff!!

[crackshot]

I personally been running Honda GN2 oil. Really clean mix but not synthetic.

What are you guys running that HP2 at? 32:1 ?

[atcsteve]

Yea,mine are run at 32:1

[ceaserthethird]

i did HP2 oil and mix at 32.1 and i have lot's of Smoke ?

Should i go Richer

[jonnyb]

i love ipone, it smells good and it burns good!!

[ccdhowell]

I know i've dug up an old thread, but I was reading-up on premix oils and wanted a round of opinions.

Just want to add my 2cents since I'm newer than this thread.

i was suprized that noone said they use Torco GP-7. I've used nothing but the Torco GP-7 since I bought my Tecate a while back and it's been great. I haven't looked inside the engine yet, but it seems to run better and better each time out like the GP-7 is cleaning lots of old gunk out. This a 100% synthetic that I've been mixing at about 23:1(1 liter per 5 gallon can of gas). It smokes allot, next mix I'm gonna try 32:1. I finally bought a ratio rite so I can mix oil properly. Never felt like I needed one before, but you guys convinced me that I do by reading about premixing and jetting. Guess I never thought about the relationship before.

I'll continue to use the Torco GP-7, just in a more correct ratio in the future. Chris

[jason 32]

klotz
i have used a lot of different oils and from proof of rebuildings/re ring jobs ect...
i think it is the best
i have used honda - its crapp -try klotz and youl never want to go back to it lol
penzoil- nothing but fouled plugs and bad times
yamalube isnt bad- its up there with klots as 1 of the best
golden spectro- crapp, -- fouled plugs lol, not like penzoil though
there are others i have used since i was a kid i just dont remember all of them -
i guess theres a reason they- sucked lol
klotz burns clean- great oil
i have seen the proof,and like it - so i have stayed with them- 1 bad plug in 5 years isnt bad at all, and the reason is because i used some different fuel/oil mix from a bud so i could keep riding- it didnt last lol
even when i mixed it rich it still worked good -with out fouling
and it smells so good with race fuel lol