getting 350x clutch off?

[hrc200x]

I'm taking apart two of my 350x motors. The one was locked up in the tranny gears so taking off the large clutch nut was easy. The other one turns freely and I can't think of anyway to hold the clutch back from turning while I try to loosen the nut. The socket is too large to fit in the hole in the clutch plate that holds the springs on. What have others done to replace their clutch? Thanks

[jeswinehart]

after you remove the 4 bolts holding the plate that covers the springs you simply re-install the bolts,,, but first add a small washer to each bolt.
the washer will push against the clutch springs thus drawing the plates together. you will more then likely haft to do all for bolts this way to get enough + even pressure.
more then likely you are gonna spin the motor over now (unless piston is froze up),,, so you insert a penny into the gears behind the clutch plates.
this is gonna cost you a couple of pennys cuz they won't be worth 2 dead flys after this but your gears aren't gonna get messed up either.
you use another penny during re-assembly (hence the couple penny thing )
any corrections gladly accepted ! i don't wanna stear anyone wrong.
this is how i have done my 200x's + haven't had to do my 350x as of yet.

john

[hrc200x]

Thanks, that trick should work. After reading further in the manual it said if you don't have the clutch holder to put it in gear and then the counter shaft will turn when you try to turn the nut... sure enough it does, but I don't have the special holder for that either. I'll probably try your method within the next few days.

My top end is apart, so to hold the motor back I put a long extention through the top rod hole... that seems to work also.

[jeswinehart]

yikes ! i might be a little concerned with flat spotting the crank bearings doing that ! that is where all that presure is ending up.
but you are right,,, that would hold it still.

[freaksfix]

Put it in gear, put a chain on the sprocket, and put the chain in the vice

[freaksfix]

yikes ! i might be a little concerned with flat spotting the crank bearings doing that ! that is where all that presure is ending up.
but you are right,,, that would hold it still.


also screwing up the base .....

[Howdy]

I cheat. I put it in netral and hold the basket with a gloved hand and impact the nut off. I have also used a vise grip on the out put shaft when the air compressor was down. This never caused me any problems either.

Howdy

[350Xrider]

I am assuming you have no access to an impact wrench, so what I did in a case like this on my XR500 was, I put a sproket on the countershaft,then put a large pipe wrench on the sproket, and then you can either put the handle in a vice or do what i did(position the motor towards a wall or something so that the wrench handle will hit and thwrench will hold steady), Hope this helps.

[TimSr]

Im with Howdy. After borrowing an air impact one time, I immediately bought one of those cheap Taiwan made ones off Ebay. Makes this job really easy.

[whiteman350x]

Having no working air compressor, I bought an electric impact wrench. It takes the clutch off just fine.

Whiteman

[TimSr]

Wow, I didnt even know they made such a beast. What did it cost you, and where'd you get it? This is one of those "must have" tools everyone should get if theyre going to work on any machine.

[Howdy]

Jc Witney has electric impacts.

$129.99 http://www.jcwhitney.com/productnoitem.jhtml?CATID=65515&BQ=jcw2

$49.99 http://www.jcwhitney.com/productnoitem.jhtml?CATID=53717&BQ=jcw2

Harbor Freight has them also.

12volt for $19.99
and then there is a $59.99 and $149.99 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Category.taf?CategoryID=108&pricetype=

Now if you Like Milwaukee® Try this link:
http://www.powertoolservices.com/impactwrenches.htm

and For the Makita Fans: ( Look at the bottom )
http://www.mytoolstore.com/makita/makndx06.html
cordless ones here: http://www.makitaope.com/html/impact_drivers.asp

I did a search on Yahoo and came up with ton's of links. Here is the search link:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Electric+impact+wrench

I had one 20 years ago before I got my air compressor. I do 99.9% of my repairs at the shop and my BIG air compressor with air tools rule!!!!! lol I can see where a electric one would come in handy though.

Howdy

[TimSr]

Hey Howdy! I have an air model, so I dont need one, but I figured it would be great info for other guys here who may not have a compressor. That 12V models dont sound bad to keep in the van with its 8 bolt lug pattern! Once you use one of these for things you have to hold while trying to get a nut loose, like a clutch basket or flywheel, youll wonder how you ever got along without it. These are also geart for those nuts that hold the hubs on the end of the axle. And for guys who may only need it once in a blue moon, a cheap model, even the 12V, will probably be fine, and weel worth the money on those once or twice a year occasions when you need it.

[Howdy]

I couldn't agree more. Tim Sr if you are going to order one from JC Whitney let me know. We could order 2 and save on shipping. I am sure your or my shipping charges would be way less than theirs. lol
Howdy

P.S. I was adding a few more links to my above post when you replied. lol

[200xman]

I wouldn't recomend a 12V impact. My father in law got one and it was a total joke. It would spool up for a couple of seconds them impact. I did better with a 3/8" ratchet.

Just my .02