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atctim
12-14-2005, 01:02 PM
So who here has ever let a "friend" ride their ATC's and said "friend" ended up breaking something on it - ie wrecking it. This has happened to me too many times to remember, and I really don't care to think about it, but I think I am done letting "friends" ride my trikes. Too many OEM parts have gotten ruined that are almost un-replaceable! Then you have to shop ebay and pay a rediculous price for OEM, meanwhile the friend probably thinks nothing of it, because it's "just an old 3 wheeler".
Steam may be coming out of my ears right now:mad:
OldSchoolin86
12-14-2005, 01:09 PM
So who here has ever let a "friend" ride their ATC's and said "friend" ended up breaking something on it - ie wrecking it. This has happened to me too many times to remember, and I really don't care to think about it, but I think I am done letting "friends" ride my trikes. Too many OEM parts have gotten ruined that are almost un-replaceable! Then you have to shop ebay and pay a rediculous price for OEM, meanwhile the friend probably thinks nothing of it, because it's "just an old 3 wheeler".
Steam may be coming out of my ears right now:mad:
"Freinds" can ride the beaters at my house. I think nice OEM rigs are magnets for stupid accidents.
bigredhead
12-14-2005, 01:10 PM
All my friends know how much my trike means to me.. and the only one's i let ride know how to ride them.. and respect them.
Accidents happen, that's a fact of life.. if you put a newbie on a trike. it's YOUR responsibility to tell them how to ride it and make the point clear not to yahoo it .. take it easy and learn slowly.
I don't dare let newcomers on my SX for that exact reason mentioned in your post.. i can't afford to fix their mistakes.. and that's that.
bigredhead
12-14-2005, 01:13 PM
When i get the 125m going tho.. i'll have everyone on that thing !! lol...
Darius1502
12-14-2005, 01:30 PM
I will never let a friend ride any bike, trike or quad I have.
Blown 331
12-14-2005, 01:48 PM
I rarely let anyone ride my bikes. No on has ever damaged them.
ClayW
12-14-2005, 01:52 PM
Yeah, its a bad idea. In many cases it can ruin friendships. I feel if they damage something, they need to pay to repair or replace it. I would do the same. I had a neighbor hit my expedition with my old BigRed before the restore. $500 damage, and has hated us ever since. Its not worth it.
Clay
xd 200x
12-14-2005, 01:57 PM
I actually got sick of people riding mine. So I bought a 85 xr200r to use as a buddy bike. "It was only 150 so I was like what the heck". Well they have beat the crap out of it. Then more people starting comming with us. So I had to buy another 200x. This one is mine and I dont think that Im ganna let anyone ride it. Except for a select few. I figure Im not being mean by not letting them ride the new one. Cause I have 2 other bikes that they can ride. This is the best way to get poeple into the sport I think. Thats how my friend got me into it. He has 2 buddy bikes.
200xcellent
12-14-2005, 02:03 PM
6 years ago I put pyschoX's mojave in a pond and then about a month later I rolled it. Unfortunatly it got stolen about a month after that. He was really cool about it and didn't get real mad. I'm sorry Andrew!!:(
New2ATC
12-14-2005, 02:03 PM
I only let 2 people ride my bikes. And they both know the break it you fix it rule (for the expensive parts).. I let my friend ride my old SX and e almost rolled it numerous times..
Live4today
12-14-2005, 02:03 PM
Wow, that's just chitty. Anyone that I know of that has damaged something of someone else's has always manned up and paid for it, whatever the price was.
foster
12-14-2005, 02:04 PM
because it's "just an old 3 wheeler".
That right there is the crux of the problem. That attitude is almost universal.
I don't have that problem. All my friends have four-wheelers and laugh when i ask them if they want to try out my trike.
Fine with me!
Dammit!
12-14-2005, 04:03 PM
I don't let newbies ride my trikes but I don't have a problem letting experienced people take a spin on the R to check it out. Hell I usually encourage it. I guess I get a kick out of the smile on their face when they get back.
I'd love to have a quad to use as a buddy bike though. A blaster or a 400ex or something.
N5HNY
12-14-2005, 05:28 PM
I agree. best way to ruin a friendship.
I have a friend that has an old Big Red that he got new. Now he rides a quad and lets others ride / borrow the trike. Now these guys are hunters, not riders per sey.
He looks disgusted everytime he looks at that old trike. People have ripped the fenders off and everything else. I think it is best not to let folks borrow your stuff unless you know they care.
Really it is a matter of respect. If they don't respect your stuff, then they really don't respect you.
Kintore
12-14-2005, 05:30 PM
I had a friend once "steal" my tri Z and break the rear grab bar. And I had to pay for it!
He is my really good friend though so it was cool, not cool how he took my Z without asking me.
monster 84r
12-14-2005, 07:27 PM
i only let one friend ride my 250r, my dad wont ride it, nor 50% of the people i know which im fine with. the friend i let ride it let me drive his dads it450 or something, it was big and had alot of pwr.
im with you dammit, i only let a select few eperianced guys ride it,.
slothminx
12-14-2005, 09:14 PM
I will only let people ride my trikes that have exsperience and arent just jokers. It may only be worth $700 and it may look like jusnk but that doesnt mean i wont get pissy if they roll it wreck something else.. So basically if you have ridden a trike before and i know your competent then your fine to ride my trike ;)
I let a friend ride my trike for a week, left it at his place and i couldnt picked it up, well he and a ton of other people beat the piss out of it so i knocked his teeth out :)
traxxasx
12-14-2005, 09:30 PM
I let a friend ride my trike for a week, left it at his place and i couldnt picked it up, well he and a ton of other people beat the piss out of it so i knocked his teeth out :)
Lol thats what i woulda done. Beat the piss out of him, and if any of his freinds that beat on it to want to square up id beat the piss out of them 2.
whiteman350x
12-14-2005, 11:14 PM
Well, I take a different tack. I have 4 friends that keep a total of 6 of my bikes at their places. 5 trikes and a quad. They keep them in good shape and fix what they break. If they do not fix them they can't ride. I was blessed with a pile of trikes, so I let other people use them. It helps me keep the pile of them running. At a ride I jump on what I want and they ride the rest.
Meat-BoX
12-14-2005, 11:15 PM
I had a One Yearold Mojave and I lived in the city so I had to truck it places, didnt ride as much as if I was in the country.
Let a friend ride it we took trip down state to visit our families.We had great trails down there and hid brother had a dirt bike. Well I was in the process of selling it and I had it up there to like $7-8 hundred more than I owed on it.
I let nim ride it so he could go for aride with his brother. It was their 1st maiden voyage together. Any how his litttle banged through all the gears and left the Little Mojave in its dust. So my buddies wide open and out of the dust his Idiot Brother is Parked in the middle of the trail. He bailedoff the ledge into the trees. Moshed the quad up good but she was tough I straightened the bars andsoldit for $100 orw than I owed on her.
Ill let people ridemy Honda 125 M (when I find good forks for her)
No one will probably ride my Tecate unless its in a straight lineand they have a toy allso just in case.
Same for the 200X My friends can Only afford the bar on Fri. Night
I figure it might make em get amachineso we could ride. Ive been pushingsomeofmy buddies. New SUnbeam Keyboard Space Bar is screwed. It Lights up though:w00t:
TravEX
12-14-2005, 11:30 PM
I just let those ride that respect em, and are responsible enough and have the funds to fix them if they damage them.
I've never had anything broken when someone else rode, but it sure would be a bad situation when it does. Sure wouldn't want it to be a close friend or family, cause I would have a VERY hard time getting over it. The R and ATP are the ones I'm the most picky about. I don't mind much bout the S and EX.
Tri-ZNate
12-14-2005, 11:57 PM
I have 4 friends that respect my trikes because they are uncomfortable with them, the others cant even look at them.
chris200x
12-15-2005, 12:06 AM
Can I ride someones trike? :cry: :cry: :cry:
Dammit!
12-15-2005, 01:50 AM
Can I ride someones trike? :cry: :cry: :cry:
I'd let you take the R for a spin. Most people bring it back pretty quick because they can't keep the front end down though. I have trouble with that part myself. :lol:
Red Rider
12-15-2005, 02:27 AM
So who here has ever let a "friend" ride their ATC's and said "friend" ended up breaking something on it - ie wrecking it?Yep, been there done that. At the time, I didn't have that much time, effort, & money into making my bike look nice, so I wasn't overly concerned when my friend flipped it. He was going fairly slow, slidding it around a corner when it hooked up & tossed his a##! He hung on & stayed with the bike all the way. When the dust cleared, he was still sitting down on it in a riding position, except he was upside down on the ground, with the bike on top of him. He said he didn't want to let go & risk damaging the bike, so he held on to protect it. It came out fairly unscathed, but the front fender was cracked right underneath the tripleclamp. I was more worried about his injuries (dirt embedded in bleeding scratches) than my bike's. He saw the cracked fender & appoligized quite a bit. I told him I would hotmelt glue it, and it would be good to go. I did, and it was. About a month later, he surprised me with a used front fender, in good condition. What a nice guy!
CorbinKale
12-15-2005, 03:16 AM
I was more worried about his injuries (dirt embedded in bleeding scratches) than my bike's. He saw the cracked fender & appoligized quite a bit. I told him I would hotmelt glue it, and it would be good to go. I did, and it was. About a month later, he surprised me with a used front fender, in good condition. What a nice guy!
I think you have illustrated the basic element of this issue. You let a FRIEND ride your bike. Most people I encounter do not differentiate between 'friends' and 'people they happen to know and get along with ok'. You were worried about him, and he was worried about your property that you had entrusted to him.
I figure a guy is lucky if he has one good friend in his lifetime. A fellow might know a whole bunch of people that he has a great time with, but he should not mistake them for friends. The very moment that it becomes inconvenient for them to associate with him, ie. wrecked his trike, they will be gone. A friend will still be there.
A good indicator of someone who is NOT your friend is someone who says things like,"Dude, I thought we were friends" when you hesitate to let them ride your trike. :) This is someone who is using your illusion of a friendship to manipulate you. Friends do not have to be bribed or paid for their friendship.
Sorry to be preachy, but it took me a few decades to figure that out. I thought I might pass it on and save some of you younger gentlemen a few years of pain. :lol:
cragster
12-15-2005, 11:27 AM
I let my friends ride bikes that are POS's. Like the 200s (sold) and my 86 200x before i started the project. But me being freshamn in high school, most people are immature and ride quads..and they cant do that well. Beau Kipker (bkipker2009) is the exception...he is my triker friend and he is getting more experiance with trikes form me and him with his 250r..
dovesprings250R
12-16-2005, 02:43 AM
I'd most likely be better off letting other people ride my trikes and keeping me off of it. Espcially when cold beer, nighttime and big hillclimbs are involved
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