View Full Version : Are these Rumors really true !!!
sandpuppi101
11-26-2005, 10:02 AM
Well I have to say that I am a very speculative person and when I hear a rumor ,I pretty much let it go in one ear and out the other. I researched the trike deal for many a year now ,and my understanding is that in the 80's trikes were not banned.The manufactures decided to end the production of trikes due to lawsuits,lack of sales and the birth of the quads! It is also my understanding that this halt in production was only a 10 year marter,meaning that the manufactures agreeded to this on a 10 year basis.Now with that being said ,a guy I work with who also ride's,told me 2 weeks ago that he heard of new production 3-wheelers ,but it was one of the China companies that had made it! I said yeah whatever,basically going in one ear and out the other.Anyways I look on the e-bay forum on here and low and behold a new trike,is this true!! I understand that none of the major brands probably will ever produce them again,maybe ,I don't know.But to hear, then too see that blew me away.I can see in the future conversion kits being made from 4 to 3 wheelers but no production!What is the take on this ,have you all heard any of the same rumors,or have I just been misinformed!!!?
3leggeddog
11-26-2005, 10:05 AM
i had not heard anything about it.where do you go to see the pics.?do thet look legit?any info on displacment,cost,2 stroke,4 stroke
Blown 331
11-26-2005, 10:07 AM
There is a link to a new kids China 3-wheeler in the ebay forum.
sandpuppi101
11-26-2005, 10:11 AM
Petesatc started a thread on the "e-bay discussion and linkage", down below,there is all the details on the little monster on there,or someone can attach it to this thread for convience!!
slothminx
11-26-2005, 10:37 AM
A quick search of the european ebay sites has broght up these aswell
http://cgi.ebay.de/Power-Pocket-Bike-MINI-FUN-TRIKE-2_W0QQitemZ8728427511QQcategoryZ117663QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.de/KINDER-TRIKE-POCKET-BIKE-4TAKT-BESTE-QUALITAT-183_W0QQitemZ4573034337QQcategoryZ62021QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
LonesomeTriZ
11-26-2005, 10:39 AM
Careful, I think they will move this thread if you have Ebay links in it.
At least the green one has a comnplete rear fender on it. The others just have an axle installed. Either way, they are all still junk.
85hondaatc125m
11-26-2005, 11:04 AM
Somebody one the forums here who has ALOT of nolledge (sp) should email Honda and Yamaha and Suzuki and Kawasaki about this new trike. Let them know about the ten year agreement and that other companies are building trikes and that they should start to build them again.
slothminx
11-26-2005, 11:06 AM
Never gonna happen, as much as we love trikes there design is flawed. none of the big companies will ever make trikes again. quads are better handling machines but in no way are they as fun;)
85hondaatc125m
11-26-2005, 11:10 AM
:cry: :cry: :cry: Dang:cry: :cry: :cry: Another thing that would be awsome is if some people from these forums that live aroung each other design and fabricate a trike, hey, if the Uk can do it 5 people from here probably can. hehehe
Maine_Triker
11-26-2005, 11:28 AM
Never gonna happen, as much as we love trikes there design is flawed. none of the big companies will ever make trikes again. quads are better handling machines but in no way are they as fun;)
Come on now... flawed design, I don't think so! :rolleyes:
Is there someone with alot of money on this site? If so I recommend you just buy HONDA and start making trikes again... that might be the only way. :cry:
Kintore
11-26-2005, 11:39 AM
Is there someone with alot of money on this site? If so I recommend you just buy HONDA and start making trikes again... that might be the only way. :cry:
I will have to transfer money from my offshore accounts in Cuba, should only take a few hours. There will be new 250r's in no time!:lol:
About the new trikes, I think they would fall apart after a few rides IMO. But I havent ridden one so I dont know, but I wont be buying one.
sandpuppi101
11-26-2005, 11:47 AM
I don't think there is a flawed design with 3-wheelers one bit!! I also am pretty sure that the big manufactures will never produce them again,but one thing I possibly do see is people doing conversion kits from quads to trikes.I don't know, it's a crapshoot, maybe or maybe not.So the deal with 10 years ,I assume that to be true!!
slothminx
11-26-2005, 11:51 AM
Well, what i was trying to say was that for the average rider who has been used to a quad a trike for them will be completely unstable, for people who have been riding trikes from the start or peoplw who just understand that body english is needed there awesome. dont get me wrong here i love trikes ! :TrikesOwn
blue27
11-26-2005, 12:11 PM
The 10 year agreement is true, I worked at a Honda dealership and was racing Three Wheelers when all this went down. Honda and the rest stop making them before the goverment said they should, but it is commonly believed that the goverment stopped it. Trikes are not flawed but are not idiot proof so you will never see them to start to produce them again.
atctim
11-26-2005, 01:14 PM
Trikes in China are the common place. The average Chinese street is filled with 3 wheelers, so for them to start manufacturing a new mini for the ATV industry does not suprise me in the least.
OldSchoolin86
11-26-2005, 01:39 PM
Well, what i was trying to say was that for the average rider who has been used to a quad a trike for them will be completely unstable, for people who have been riding trikes from the start or peoplw who just understand that body english is needed there awesome. dont get me wrong here i love trikes ! :TrikesOwn
They are flawed as you said to begin with but that doesn't mean that we can't love and enjoy them.
ScottZJ
11-26-2005, 02:15 PM
I contacted the CEO or someone high up at the Kawasaki plant and talked to them for quiet awhile. This was during my search for tecate OEM plastic and parts left at main warehouses and such. I basically sent them a very intellgent email asking some of the normal 3 wheeler questions. I used my Dept of Defense signature and letter head, so they knew I wasnt some young punk kid LOL:lol: . They actually called me back on this email....86waterpumper knows all about this conversation.
Well anyway as we went back to the 80's enjoying a few laughs and awesome times, I asked him the main question. Is it possible to make 3 wheelers again? He came back with a great answer....at first.:( . He said "sure any manufacture can make 3 wheelers now since the "ban" is gone. There are the positive and negative about doing that. Positive is that they could make a super bad performance 3 wheeler much cheaper than the quads due to the lack of front end components. The negative(which out weighs the positive) is there will be sue happy fools in the US just waiting to jump on the band wagon for a quick dollar. Too many Americans are out for the quick money and not want to work for it, so any open door they find..they jump at the chance. Another reason is it would take engineers years to try to update the specs on the now outdated trikes. And with those updates will come problems. They will have to work on this quite sometime to perfect the 3 wheeler once again which would cost thousands of dollars that might be be recooped if they didnt sell. They also said they didnt feel that there was a market for 3 wheelers anymore. He said "unfortunately" most of the people that love the 3 wheelers, love them due to the cost is cheap, alot cheaper than the quads. With that said, will 90% of the 3 wheeler enthusiasts purchase a new 3 wheeler? Probably not. Most of them purchase the 3 wheelers, due to the cheap cost to have something that can ride the trails/tracks/and snow just like the quads can do. I hate to sound like someone to discourage a wonderful dream.....but with every dream, it has to be delt with reality, and the reality of this I feel just wouldnt happen. "
This was the basic discussion he had with me. It was really cool to see someone that is high up in the industry agree that 3 wheelers were great and wouldnt mind seeing a come back......but he said the reality of life is grim.
I hope this shed some light on the subject...............peace
Scott
Dusty
11-26-2005, 02:32 PM
ahh fooey...i think if they started making them again alls they would have to do would be to put stickers with warnings just like quads and have people sign agreement apon purchase that the 3-wheeler is for expert riders only..then maybe they wouldnt have any lawsuits..besides nobody sues them when they get hurt ona Quad..unless it brakes or somthin like that
The *only* way I see any of the major OEMs bringing back a 3-wheeler is if it is a small-bore utility ATC.
The farmers, hunters, etc ALL love ATCs because of their superior manoverability, less likely to get stuck, and their lighter weight over a quad. I can't tell you how many offers I've had on my 250sx from this crowd.
So yeah, I could see Honda possibly making a 250cc 3-wheeler geared toward such an audience.
But a sport/race ATC? Never gonna happen again, period.
dovesprings250R
11-26-2005, 04:21 PM
The consent decree(ban) on three wheelers is over but if the ban never happened I don't think a three wheeler would have been produced beyond 1988 or maybe 1989. The design is flawed for most folks and that's the problem, just a bit tippy on hills. Quads were the nautural progression. Funny thing is I am faster on my 250R three wheelers than any of my nicest desert racing 250R fourtrax's. If new three wheelers were produced it would kill the fun of finding that super clean 87 tecate.
N5HNY
11-26-2005, 05:31 PM
OK.......
I don't have any links for anybody, but I have found that there is a company in China that is making the old 90 or 110 and they also make a mini trail 50. I have also heard that they are or are going to make the old trail 70.
They also make a XR looking two wheeled bike.
All of these designs are obsolete Honda designs and I think Honda has licesened them to build these copies.
Also India is building copies of the old British bikes and they are now selling here. I think the Royal Enfield single is the most popular one that is imported here.
Unclediezel
11-26-2005, 08:30 PM
This was a thread about a month ago, right here on this site,
http://develop.en.alibaba.com/product/50078028/50353315/atv/Mini_ATV.html
dblshockpower
11-26-2005, 09:32 PM
Hey, these Chinese reman all the minitrails and C70's already.
http://www.oldhonda.com/panda.htm
Aussieboy1
11-27-2005, 03:07 AM
I posted that link a few weeks ago. I have contacted the manufacture again and have ask would they build a bigger bike. They said they can build almost anything l would like. My thought was would it easier to build something along the lines of a tiger, they proberly had the simplist of all the frames. No linkage rear suspension, etc. They may not be able to build a motor for it but everything else l would say, they would be able too.
Give me some feed back, as l may be going over there in Feb or March next year..
Meat-BoX
11-27-2005, 05:47 AM
Someone design and build a frame that will work with 250R parts, updated suspension, and a 450R 4 stroke moter. Sell it minus the motor. Cant get in trouble and I bet something like that could sell 1000 units a year.:w00t:
As for Poket Trikes, if it looks like this I will buy one:beer
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