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slowneasy
11-24-2005, 01:00 PM
hey guys heres a tire weight chart thought might be of some use to anyone looking for tires for there trike.
maybe this will help some of you out lookin for tire weights

Tire Brand Height Width Rim Weight
GBC Dirt Devil 26 10 12 23
GBC Dirt Devil 26 12 12 30
GBC Dirt Devil 27 10 12 26
GBC Dirt Devil 27 12 12 32
GBC Dirt Devil 28 10 12 27
GBC Dirt Devil 28 12 12 34
GBC gator 22 8 10 16.9
GBC gator 22 11 8 22.1
GBC gator 22 11 9 19.6
GBC gator 22 11 10 24.7
GBC gator 23 8 10 18.2
GBC gator 23 8 11 18
GBC gator 24 9 11 22.4
GBC gator 24 10 11 26.8
GBC gator 25 8 12 21
GBC gator 25 10 12 25
GBC gator 25 12 9 27
GBC gator 25 12 10 26.4
GBC gator 26 10 12 22.7
GBC gator 26 12 12 30.4
GBC gator 27 10 12 25.8
GBC gator 27 12 12 32
GBC gator 27 12 10 30
GBC gator 28 10 12 26.5
GBC gator 28 12 12 34
GBC Mud Sharks 21 12 8 16
GBC Mud Sharks 21 12 9 16
GBC Mud Sharks 21 12 10 17
GBC Mud Sharks 23 8 11 13
GBC Mud Sharks 24 9 11 20
GBC Mud Sharks 25 12 9 24
GBC Mud Sharks 26 9.5 12 23
GBC Mud Sharks 26 12 12 28
Goodyear Mud Runner 25 8 11 19
Goodyear Mud Runner 25 8 12 22
Goodyear Mud Runner 25 10 11 28
Goodyear Mud Runner 25 10 12 26
Goodyear Mud Runner 25 11 10 30
Goodyear Mud Runner 26 9 12 25
Goodyear Mud Runner 26 12 12 32
Goodyear Mud Runner 26 12 10 37
Goodyear Mud Runner 27 9 12 24
High Lifter Outlaw 25 9.5 12 26.6
High Lifter Outlaw 25 12 12 31.8
High Lifter Outlaw 26 10 12 28.6
High Lifter Outlaw 26 12 12 34.9
High Lifter Outlaw 27 9.5 12 30.2
High Lifter Outlaw 27 12 12 35.4
High Lifter Outlaw 28 9.5 12 31.5
High Lifter Outlaw 28 10.5 12 34
High Lifter Outlaw 28 12.5 12 38.7
ITP 589 M/S 25 8 12 20.3
ITP 589 M/S 25 10 12 26.2
ITP 589 M/S 25 12 10 27
ITP 589 M/S 26 9 12 28
ITP 589 M/S 26 12 10 28.9
ITP 589 M/S 26 12 12 33
ITP 589 M/S 27 9 12 28.1
ITP 589 M/S 27 11 12 30.9
ITP 589 M/S 28 9 12 27
ITP 589 M/S 28 11 12 32
ITP Blackwater 20 12 8 19
ITP Blackwater 20 12 9 18
ITP Blackwater 20 12 10 17
ITP Blackwater 22 12.5 8 24
ITP Blackwater 22 12.5 9 23
ITP Blackwater 22 12.5 10 23
ITP Blackwater 25 8 11 19
ITP Blackwater 25 8 12 19
ITP Blackwater 25 10 11 23
ITP Blackwater 25 10 12 23
ITP Blackwater 25 12 11 24
ITP Blackwater 25 12 9 25
ITP Blackwater 25 12 10 24
ITP Blackwater 26 8 12 22
ITP Blackwater 26 12 10 31
ITP Blackwater 26 12 12 28
ITP Blackwater 27 9 12 20
ITP Blackwater 27 12 12 32
ITP C Series 12 7 9
ITP D-Hole Chrome 12 7 12
ITP D-Hole Chrome WO 12 7 13
ITP D-Hole Silver 12 7 13
ITP D-Hole Silver WO 12 8.5 12
ITP Magnum Billet Aluminum Black 12 7 8.3
ITP Magnum Billet Aluminum Polished 12 7 8.6
ITP Mud Lite 25 8 12 15.1
ITP Mud Lite 25 10 12 19.5
ITP Mud Lite 26 12 12 26.7
ITP Mud Lite 27 12 12 27.8
ITP Spider Trac 22 12 8 22
ITP Spider Trac 22 12 9 24
ITP Spider Trac 22 12 10 24
ITP Spider Trac 25 9.5 12 21
ITP Spider Trac 25 9.5 11 21
ITP Spider Trac 25 12.5 11 26
ITP Spider Trac 25 12.5 12 28
ITP Spider Trac 25 13.5 9 29
ITP Spider Trac 25 13.5 10 28
ITP Spider Trac 26 9.5 12 20
ITP Spider Trac 26 12 10 32
ITP Spider Trac 26 12 12 27
ITP Steel Black & Chrome 12 7 14
ITP Steel Camo 12 7 13
ITP Steel Chrome 12 7 12
ITP Steel Silver 12 7 12
ITP Steel Silver 12 8 13.6
Kenda Bearclaw 22 8 10 19
Kenda Bearclaw 22 12 8 25
Kenda Bearclaw 22 12 9 26
Kenda Bearclaw 22 12 10 24
Kenda Bearclaw 23 8 11 20
Kenda Bearclaw 24 9 11 20
Kenda Bearclaw 24 11 10 19
Kenda Bearclaw 25 8 11 21
Kenda Bearclaw 25 8 12 19
Kenda Bearclaw 25 10 11 22
Kenda Bearclaw 25 10 12 23
Kenda Bearclaw 25 12.5 9 31.1
Kenda Bearclaw 25 12.5 10 30
Kenda Bearclaw 25 12.5 11 26
Kenda Bearclaw 25 12.5 12 28
Kenda Bearclaw 26 9 12 20
Kenda Bearclaw 26 12 12 35
Kenda Bearclaw 27 10 12 22.6
Kenda Bearclaw 27 12 12 31.5
Maxxis Mud Bug 23 8 11 20
Maxxis Mud Bug 24 9 11 22
Maxxis Mud Bug 25 8 12 20
Maxxis Mud Bug 25 10 11 24
Maxxis Mud Bug 25 10 12 23
Maxxis Mud Bug 25 12 9 28
Maxxis Mud Bug 25 12 11 30
Maxxis Mud Bug 26 10 12 24.4
Maxxis Mud Bug 26 12 10 34
Maxxis Mud Bug 26 12 11 30
Maxxis Mud Bug 26 12 12 28.6
Maxxis Mud Bug 27 10 12 25
Maxxis Mud Bug 27 12 10 30
Maxxis Mud Bug 27 12 12 28.1
Maxxis Mudzilla 28 8 12 29
Maxxis Mudzilla 28 10 12 35.6
Maxxis Mudzilla 28 12 12 41.6
Mud-Machine Bi-Claw 25 9.5 10 21
Mud-Machine Bi-Claw 25 9.5 11 21
Mud-Machine Bi-Claw 25 9.5 12 21
Mud-Machine Bi-Claw 26 9 11 21
Mud-Machine Bi-Claw 26 9 12 21
Mud-Machine Bi-Claw 26 11 11 27
Mud-Machine Bi-Claw 26 11 12 27
Mud-Machine Bi-Claw 27 9.75 12 28
Mud-Machine Tri-Claw 25 12.5 12 28
Mud-Machine Tri-Claw 25 12.5 11 26
Mud-Machine Tri-Claw 25 13.5 10 29
Mud-Machine Tri-Claw 25 13.5 9 27
Mud-Machine Tri-Claw 27 12 12 33.6
Mud-Machine Tri-Claw 27 12 11 33.5
Mud-Machine Tri-Claw 27 12 10 34
Super Swamper TSL 22 9 10 18
Super Swamper TSL 22 12.5 9 20
Super Swamper TSL 22 12.5 10 20
Super Swamper TSL 24 9 10 24
Super Swamper TSL 24 9 11 22
Super Swamper TSL 25 9.5 10 20
Super Swamper TSL 25 9.5 11 20
Super Swamper TSL 25 9.5 12 21
Super Swamper TSL 25 12.5 11 24
Super Swamper TSL 25 12.5 12 26
Super Swamper TSL 25 13.5 9 25
Super Swamper TSL 25 13.5 10 25
Super Swamper TSL 26 9.5 11 27
Super Swamper TSL 26 9.5 12 26
Super Swamper TSL 26 12 12 27
Super Swamper Vampires 24 9 11 20
Super Swamper Vampires 25 9.5 10 22
Super Swamper Vampires 25 9.5 11 22
Super Swamper Vampires 25 9.5 12 23
Super Swamper Vampires 25 12 11 33.7
Super Swamper Vampires 25 12 12 30
Super Swamper Vampires 25 13.5 9 32
Super Swamper Vampires 25 13.5 10 22
Super Swamper Vampires 26 9.5 11 23
Super Swamper Vampires 26 9.5 12 23
Super Swamper Vampires 26 9.5 12 25
Super Swamper Vampires 26 9.5 12 25
Super Swamper Vampires 26 12 10 31
Super Swamper Vampires 26 12 11 31
Super Swamper Vampires 26 12 12 34
Super Swamper Vampires 26 13 12 33
Super Swamper Vampires 26 13 12 33
Super Swamper Vampires 27 10 10 23
Super Swamper Vampires 27 10 11 23
Super Swamper Vampires 27 10 12 24.4
Super Swamper Vampires 27 12 11 36
Super Swamper Vampires 27 12 12 35.2
Super Swamper Vampires 28 10 12 40:idea:

ATC King
09-25-2020, 09:17 AM
Deestone D929 22x11x8 12lb 10.4oz

Pirelli Rut Buster 22x11x8 17lb 11.8oz

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Also, some 8" steel wheels:

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OE Honda 5lb 1.0oz, AMS 5lb 14.2oz (has valve stem installed), OE Yamaha 7lb 10.8oz



The Yamaha wheel is heavy. I'll definitely change that out for something else if I replace the tires. It also doesn't have a bead lip. The Honda wheels use an inner ring for reinforcement, which I didn't weigh. The AMS doesn't need the ring. I've been running the AMS wheels for years and they've held up, plus the offset is just right. Not so wide I'm hanging trees on tight trails, but wide enough to noticeably better the handling. Super inexpensive too, to the point there's no reason to refinish a OEM wheel unless it's going on a restoration. https://www.amstires.com/products/?categoryId=1132&productId=458657

There are some comments on the Deestone D929 tire that it's tiny and not to size. Virtually no knobby tires are to size. If they were actually 11" wide, they'd dang near rub the inside of the forks. The three knobbies I have mounted are a Kenda Scorpion, a Duro, and this Deestone. They're all between 9-10 inches wide with approximately the same pressure. The Deestone is actually closer to true height though, at more than 21 inches. The others are a little over 20 at the tread and all have practically full height tread. The Trailpros though...they're pretty much true width of 11", but on the YTM200E the right one dang near rubs the muffler, and in fact has at some point, before I replaced the worn out carrier bearings.

If the true size thing is a shocker, remember, a 2x4 stud is actually 1 1/2" x 3 1/2".


I replaced the Butt Busters with the Deestones. Can't believe I put up with them this long. Horrible tire for a hardtail. Virtually no give unless flat. The D929 is very much like the Cheng Shin tire of the same style. If they age as well as the CS, I'll be really satisfied.

MrConcdid
09-25-2020, 11:20 AM
I am a big fan of the Ocelot Tire P318 on amazon they are very close to true to size 25x12-9
They are a 4ply tire, so they are very light, I could not find the specs on them, They are as light or very close to the deestones in weight, but they run very true to size.
Below is a 185 and a 250es both came factory with 25x12-9 as you can see they look period correct for a knobby.
At $55 a piece you can't go wrong.

I think tire weight is very important for these under powered machines by today's standards.
MrC.

ATC King
09-27-2020, 03:06 PM
I can say that dropping ten pounds of rotating mass definitely made it accelerate quicker.

It's more squishy in the corners now, but I can deal with that. I was tired of dealing with rock hard, spine beating tires.

redsox
10-10-2020, 12:37 AM
hows the cushion on the 4-ply? not a lot of granite in florida...

Dirtcrasher
10-11-2020, 02:26 PM
Heaviest tire I ever bought was a Holeshot HD, it was an 8 ply and twice the weight of a normal tire.

I got them after damaging a few sidewalls on the local powerlines, so if I ever plan a trip in the mountains, I'll pop them on there. Probably unavailable now...

ATC King
10-11-2020, 09:01 PM
hows the cushion on the 4-ply? not a lot of granite in florida...

The ply number is more of an archaic rating anymore, it's not the actual number of plies in the tread or sidewall like it used to be. I'm guessing there isn't much of a hard standard for ATV tires either, because the feel of different brands of tires can vary wildly even rated at the same ply.

A good review on the ride quality is the straightest answer you can get. The technical difference between modern two and four ply ATV tires is exceptionally blurry.

For instance, the Kenda Scorpion is rated as two plys, but it certainly doesn't ride like that with 2.5psi. They ride more like a four ply tire. I do like to use them as a front tire on front suspended hardtails, because they seem to wear better, have a slightly tougher sidewall and a little rim protection. I don't think I'd use them as a rear tire on a hardtail.

The Cheng Shin C829 rides much better, but wears faster. I haven't found them susceptible to sidewall cutting or tearing. I've hammered the rims quite a bit on rocks and the tire sidewalls survive. I just went out and banged them on some rocks this weekend, and I mean using the sidewalls like part of the tread to get over some stuff. Slate may be a different story, but for the rocks here in Arkansas, they're more than adequate for a low power, relatively lightweight hardtail.

ATC King
11-01-2020, 10:54 PM
Carlisle Trail-Pro 22x11x8 20lb 11.6oz

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Kenda Front-Max A/t 22x11x8 16lb 14.00z

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264923


Any of the used tire I weigh, are clean on the inside of any sealant and the tread is clean of rocks, in a effort to get the most correct data. The used tires won't be weighed if the tread is significantly worn.