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Dave223
11-23-2005, 06:14 PM
anyone ever use Tire Slime? is it worth the money? I found it at Lowes, but couldnt find any info on the bottles that said how much to use per tire, anyone know? Thanks, Dave

thedeatons
11-23-2005, 06:44 PM
Slime never worked very well for me on my bicycles growing up. I have tried tubes with puncture seal in them, and they have worked well in the past few years... I know for bicycles now the big thing is to convert to tubeless tires without buying the tubeless rims or tires. They do this by using Stan's No Flats. According to Stan's website you can also use it for ATV tires, and I would wholeheartedly recommend their product. This has been the number one most influential tire product to hit mountain bike tires in the past decade. Tubeless tires was the first offering, and I still remember having to pump them up daily when I worked at the bicycle shop because they would not hold air correctly..... Stan's is THE way to go, and if they have an ATV offering you should definitely try it. Stan's has a video on their site that shows a bicycle tire running over nails and still holding air.... I will post their site address and also one of the many testimonials they have:

http://www.notubes.com/home.php

http://www.notubes.com/newsdesk_info.php/newsdesk_id/20?osCsid=99805cf77beef35c7533a9675d67ab2e

http://stanstiresealant.com/puncture.php

MTS
11-23-2005, 07:08 PM
Tire slime in ATVs can give you a high-speed wobble if there ballone tires some times.

traxxasx
11-23-2005, 07:48 PM
slim works great 4 me, i use one bottel per. tire/

200xcellent
11-23-2005, 08:34 PM
i used one bottle per tire and it about shook my quad apart. i would say just add a little bit at a time until the leak is gone

bigb9582
11-23-2005, 08:45 PM
i just used some the other day for a bead leak. and it worked great. i had to keep tilting the tire to the side with the leak until it finally stoped leaking.

Solid Snake
11-23-2005, 09:23 PM
Slime didn't work at all for me, I have three plugs in my 200x front tire and they hold up great, slime wouldn't even seal a pin hole in it. I've used fix-a-flat with great results everytime as well.

Unclediezel
11-23-2005, 09:40 PM
Ive used it with mixed results ,And yes it can cause serious vibrations,the instructions on "how much per tire" are in a booklet INSIDE the plastic wrapper- (Real Brainstorm) so until ya buy it-Its just a guess-If I can find the booklet -I'll post it for ya.

88 Turbo Coupe
11-23-2005, 09:56 PM
"Slime" (like some people I know) is not a PERMANENT fix. It DOES NOT last indefinatly. Use it to get your arse back to your trailor then get a new tire. If you want to try to see how long it lasts, Ive heard about 3 months. About as reliable as a plug.

Dads
11-23-2005, 10:00 PM
My experience with slime in rears is you need to use bead-lock with it. If it gets in between the rim and tire, the rim will spin in the tire, in cold weather. Works good in fronts.

88 Turbo Coupe
11-23-2005, 10:06 PM
Slime never worked very well for me on my bicycles growing up. I have tried tubes with puncture seal in them, and they have worked well in the past few years... I know for bicycles now the big thing is to convert to tubeless tires without buying the tubeless rims or tires. They do this by using Stan's No Flats. According to Stan's website you can also use it for ATV tires, and I would wholeheartedly recommend their product. This has been the number one most influential tire product to hit mountain bike tires in the past decade. Tubeless tires was the first offering, and I still remember having to pump them up daily when I worked at the bicycle shop because they would not hold air correctly..... Stan's is THE way to go, and if they have an ATV offering you should definitely try it. Stan's has a video on their site that shows a bicycle tire running over nails and still holding air.... I will post their site address and also one of the many testimonials they have:

http://www.notubes.com/home.php

http://www.notubes.com/newsdesk_info.php/newsdesk_id/20?osCsid=99805cf77beef35c7533a9675d67ab2e

http://stanstiresealant.com/puncture.php
Bicycle tires are alot smaller than ATC tires by volume. Does Stan make a large enough can to fix the ATC tire? Be a good idea

el Pollo
11-23-2005, 11:02 PM
Ahh. An area of expertise for me...

Slime is basically a consumer's version of OTR Sealer. And most of the time the reason it doesn't seal correctly is because some people don't apply it correctly. The best way I have done is to unbolt the wheel and tire assembly from the trike/quad/wheel barrow/whatever, and apply the Slime. Air up the tire to roughly 15 pounds and bounce the tire while spinning it for a few minutes. That way it will coat evenly and not cause a wobble once it's back on the machine.

And yes, it is a temporary fix. The best fix if the injury is up to about 1/4" in diameter is to use the nylon string plugs. The innerliner in the "quad tires" are too thin to accept a patch. And "fix-a-flat" is utterly useless. It has the consistency of milk and does squat to seal a leak even temporaraly.

thedeatons
11-23-2005, 11:08 PM
Stan's is also an ATV specific product, and a permanent solution. It is preventative maintenance that you can safely leave in your tire permanently. The links I gave above actually show ATV tires and lead to product information when using in an ATV tire. You will not be dissappointed.... James

thedeatons
11-23-2005, 11:10 PM
This may help:

Stan's Tire Sealant (The Solution) is the best in the market. It can be used in virtually any tubeless tire: wheelbarrows, ATV's, lawnmowers, golf carts, tractors, scooters, bikes, basketballs, etc... Unlike other tire sealants, The Solution is lightweight and will not throw the tire out of balance. The thinner sealant also allows for sidewall protection that other sealants can not touch.

Taken from this webpage:

http://stanstiresealant.com/

88 Turbo Coupe
11-23-2005, 11:14 PM
I hope I never need it. lol

dovesprings250R
11-24-2005, 02:20 AM
"Slime" (like some people I know) is not a PERMANENT fix. It DOES NOT last indefinatly. Use it to get your arse back to your trailor then get a new tire. If you want to try to see how long it lasts, Ive heard about 3 months. About as reliable as a plug.

According to slime packaging it will last for two years. I run slime on all of my trikes and my quad(sorry} with excellent results. It will seal any hole that is 1/8 inch in diameter or smaller. I have saved so many tires with slime that I have to disagree. I just recently repaired a trailer tire with it and drove 225 miles from the desert back home on that tire. That trailer tire wasn't a real slow leak either. It was dead flat in about 2 minutes after parking.It is still holding air with out leaking and that was in july. I'm sure stans is good too but slime is magic for me. At least out here in the desert. It WILL NOT seal cuts or slices and has trouble sealing more than 7 small holes. Hate to sound like a commercial but the paddles I got with my R's were all flat and plugged. I installed slime and they are fine. Just my experience but I love the green stuff.:beer

dovesprings250R
11-24-2005, 02:27 AM
Sorry, Left out the answer to the original question. 12-16 ounces of slime per tire is fine. As far as high speed wobbles go I've never had any and I spend a lot of time pinned in 6th going from Randsburg back to cal city 32 miles or so and most of it pinned in 6th. My R's are stock but they're still pretty fast.

Solid Snake
11-24-2005, 02:27 AM
Ahh. An area of expertise for me...

Slime is basically a consumer's version of OTR Sealer. And most of the time the reason it doesn't seal correctly is because some people don't apply it correctly. The best way I have done is to unbolt the wheel and tire assembly from the trike/quad/wheel barrow/whatever, and apply the Slime. Air up the tire to roughly 15 pounds and bounce the tire while spinning it for a few minutes. That way it will coat evenly and not cause a wobble once it's back on the machine.

And yes, it is a temporary fix. The best fix if the injury is up to about 1/4" in diameter is to use the nylon string plugs. The innerliner in the "quad tires" are too thin to accept a patch. And "fix-a-flat" is utterly useless. It has the consistency of milk and does squat to seal a leak even temporaraly.


When I used slime, I put a block under my trike to suspend the front wheel then put the slime in and aired the tire up to between 10-15 psi (higher then normal just til the slime was distributed) and rotated the wheel continuously. All that happened was the slime kept oozing out of the pinholes in the tire. Yes I used the slime for tubless tires. I thought maybe I had too much pressure in the tire so I kept lowering it until I got down to operating pressure...still no luck. I'll never use it again, ever, and I always deter others from using it. I've used Fix-a-flat a number of times with excellent success repeatedly. I seems to come out of the hole and quickly rubberize, and I've used it as a permanent solution with no problem, in fact one of the tires I used it on has been on my dirtbike for years now and I ride that harder then the trikes.

DeePa
11-24-2005, 03:24 AM
the thing about fix a flat is that it hardens...so if you have an unsuspended trike, there goes half of you suspension

traxxasx
11-24-2005, 06:43 AM
HOLD UP!!! "FIX A FLAT IS WACK" lol that stuff suckssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sss.....i remember having a nail go thru my tire so then i put some fix a flat in did everything the directions said drove slowly around and ZzzZZZzzZZZz thats stuff was flying put that lil hole like a squirt gun!!! lines of white crap everywhere all up and down the street lol all over me that was the worst. slime is 100% way better then fix-a-nothing. I got a another nail is some newly bought tires and (damn nails) then put one small bottel of slim put the hole side facing the ground and boom done hole is sealed, did that 1 year ago havent put air in that tire since. (alot of times depends on hole size)

Solid Snake
11-24-2005, 11:38 AM
Well, after reading everyone's testimony on how well slime works, I'm guessing that I just had a bad experience with that stuff and I've become hesitant towards using it again, but anyway fix-a-flat did work for me.

Unclediezel
11-24-2005, 11:51 AM
Ill bet mom said liver was good for you-But youll never try that again either!!!Do what works for you, (Or dont do what doesnt?????) There isnt , and never will be, "Miracle in a Bottle", But dont condemn something, or swear by something, Just because someone else does. Try it.

mad_max
11-24-2005, 01:36 PM
Timely topic.... I ride primarily in pasture w/ some timber. I just pulled a 1.5 inch long thorn out of my front tire. This particular tire did not have slime in it because this was the first leak I've had with it since I bought it. My rears both have slime in them and I've had zero problems with leaks on them since.
I ended up putting a plug in the front and then dumping a bottle of slime in it as well. I've got no complaints. Note: If a "slimed" tire needs to be removed from the wheel it is rather messy.

Unclediezel
11-24-2005, 01:43 PM
I work for Bridgestone Tires- You aint seen messy til you dismount a tire that has 3 gallons of fix a Flat in it -cuz the moron didnt know when to stop. Also- by virtue of experience---Fix A Flat is FLAMMABLE!!!!!!!

Solid Snake
11-24-2005, 02:59 PM
Ill bet mom said liver was good for you-But youll never try that again either!!!Do what works for you, (Or dont do what doesnt?????) There isnt , and never will be, "Miracle in a Bottle", But dont condemn something, or swear by something, Just because someone else does. Try it.


What I do know is that I definately love liver. Mmmmmmm.

88 Turbo Coupe
11-24-2005, 03:25 PM
I guess all products have their place,and thats fine. But for me I cannot go to the mountains, abandoned railroad track, the woods, sand pits, vacation, or the atv track and have a tire with a hole in it and then to have a failure. When I beat on my ATC/ATV I want it to be as close as 110% as I can get it. Knowing I got some stuff to TEMPORARILY fill a HOLE does not sit well with me. When I'm screamin my ride (beatin the piss out of it) and have a tire failure--no way--due to some filler stuff? Do you think for a moment that professional riders ride with fill in their tires is safe? I'm not a pro but I do it right. For the casual/soft riders it must be OK, but for me NO WAY. I'll use it to get me home but thats about it. IMO

88 Turbo Coupe
11-24-2005, 03:41 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention, plugs suck too.

dovesprings250R
11-25-2005, 01:49 AM
As far as profesional riders using it, I know 100% that mant profesional atv cross country and desert racers use slime in their tires to PREVENT flats. I was turned on to the stuff by a former pro desert racer named Fred Wing. I have seen Denny Wolf a fast quad racer install it befor the vegas to reno race. And Dan Smith former Husky racer and very very fast guy in the desert used it also. Try it, use it to prevent flats and you will see. I just have used it for way to long with excellent results and zero handling or tire problems. I ride fast, I ride hard, and I do not baby my trikes, nor have I had a flat due to a puncture in years.

dreadhed
11-25-2005, 08:22 PM
I have all ways had good luck with slime or simlar products. I keep a couple around when I go riding. The only time I had a problem with it was when one of the knobs on the side of the tire cracked. I just used one of those stips to plug it up. No problems since. I would say it's worth the money.

dreadhed
11-25-2005, 08:25 PM
I work for Bridgestone Tires- You aint seen messy til you dismount a tire that has 3 gallons of fix a Flat in it -cuz the moron didnt know when to stop. Also- by virtue of experience---Fix A Flat is FLAMMABLE!!!!!!!
I don't think he is talking about Fix A Flat. The slime is diffrent & not hard to clean out of tires. I have done it more than once. That would be a hell of a mess though 3 gal of Fix a Flat.

1984kxtTECATE
11-25-2005, 08:26 PM
Ive never had a probelm with flats, most likely because all my tires are six-ply heavy duty. I have used fix a flat on my 25" tri-z tire and it worked it was just weather checked. Dosnt matter anymore because I got a NOS 23" tire. :w00t: :naughty:

Unclediezel
11-25-2005, 08:32 PM
Actually - It was a guy who was just to damn cheap to buy a new tire --so he pumped in 2 cans every morning before he went to work. put the tire on the bead breaker and splattered white liquid everywhere. One of my co workers was torching on an old rotted exhaust system and.....Guess the rest.

1984kxtTECATE
11-25-2005, 08:38 PM
I also feel pretty strong about buying a new tire if you got a punture on the side wall. In my opnion, plugs and patches are a temporary fix not a permanent. Do it right the first time I guess.

88 Turbo Coupe
11-25-2005, 08:53 PM
As far as profesional riders using it, I know 100% that mant profesional atv cross country and desert racers use slime in their tires to PREVENT flats. I was turned on to the stuff by a former pro desert racer named Fred Wing. I have seen Denny Wolf a fast quad racer install it befor the vegas to reno race. And Dan Smith former Husky racer and very very fast guy in the desert used it also. Try it, use it to prevent flats and you will see. I just have used it for way to long with excellent results and zero handling or tire problems. I ride fast, I ride hard, and I do not baby my trikes, nor have I had a flat due to a puncture in years.

Oh well thats cool. I didn't know slime once applied had sealing properties after a puncture. I was mislead then. I thought it was only good for sealing a puncture. I'm now gunna tell my friends now that when you put slime in you r tire before you have a flat that you will not have a flat. How would you know if you had a puncture and slime sealed it?

Dads
11-25-2005, 09:19 PM
What stops the leak is the peaces of rubber that are in the slime. They are ment to clog the hole. It is a temp fix and you will know if yopu get a leak. It may be two or three days or more you wil have to add air. I have a tire that looked good but would go flat I put in slime and on each sid there is a crack that did not show till green slime liquid seeped out. Still goes flat just a little slower.

dovesprings250R
11-26-2005, 12:40 AM
With slime you will never know 100% if you've had a flat. If slime does not seal the hole then you had a hole bigger than 1/8 inch diameter or many many small holes and the slime can't work fast enough. Slime will not seal rotting and cracked tires with small tears. Befor I used slime I would puncture almost every ride in the desert and I never do now. slime is activated by air sucking it out and it turns into a fiber and seals the holes. It works like very thick blood clotting to close a wound. If slime is a temorary fix for holes I don't know how. I checkes my trailer tire and all my paddles to be sure but they all have close tio what I inflated them too months ago. Tell your buddies to run the stuff , I promise it greatly reduce punctures if not eliminate them. I have seen that cracking problem where the slime oozes out of the cracks on some of my old tires that dads refers to.