how to take the clutch apart

[zoomerman]

hey a couple weeks ago i posted a thread wondering why my 125m had no power and everyone said the clutch well i took to scews out then 4 bolts out and it won't come apart i was wondering if i missed anything? and help would be great

[brendan802]

there should be a large locknut in the center with 4 points missing in it. That is the locknut that you need to remove. Honda sells a special socket to remove this or you can take a piece of pipe and cut it to fit the locknut. :TrikesOwn

Also don't loose the thrust washer behind the nut and remember to install the right side outward on the washer.

[Yamahauler]

If you take the four bolts out that have the springs under them, it should just loosen the pressure plate and all the clutch plates. The clutch basket will not come off unless you take the center clutch nut off, but you will not have to do that if it is just your plates giving you trouble.

[brendan802]

Yup yamahauler is right. I've never worked on those 125's I just went by a pic on bikebandit.com. My bad I though they'd be similar to the 200cc atc's.

[zoomerman]

there is no four bolts with springs under them that i can see there are srings beside these bolts that i took out

[jeswinehart]

Hey zoomer ,,,, what year 125m you working on ?

john

[jeswinehart]

If it looks like this ,,, well I am not sure.

http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/oem_schematic_view~mp_id~~mscssid~MKRCAP0XBVS18M2K XWMMSA5E50521RE1~schem_dept_id~190967~section_dept _id~1~section_dept_name~OEM+%28Stock%29+Parts~dept _type_id~2~model_dept_year~1985~model_dept_mfr~Hon da~model_dept_id~190802~model_dept_name~ATC125M.as p

I would hafta be sitting in front of it.

john

[zoomerman]

it's an 84 here is a pic of where i'm at right now

[zoomerman]

oh srry here's the pic

[jeswinehart]

It is going to take a tool like what I made up out of a 7/8ths. socket.
Brendon in above post suggested making one out of a peice of pipe ,,, that's a better idea then ruining a socket.

john

[zoomerman]

i will try to make one wish me luck lol

[jeswinehart]

Anybody know if that particular machine is using left hand thread on that nut ( I have no manuals for that modle ) ???

john

[zoomerman]

i got the clutch off and my dad said that the plates look heat fratured here r the pics

[zoomerman]

oh and i took off the big spocket that is beside the clutch because it looked like when * switched gears it hit the engine and there is some wear there in the pic

[zoomerman]

oh i was lookin where i said that it loodked like something was hitting the engine cover. but i think that they put jb weld there they put too much on so it wore it off and there is some around that bolt

[fatfords]

Zoomer,
Has the bolt that holds the "stopper" broken out of the case? The JB weld may have been an attempt to fix that problem. It also looks like the stopper is not installed correctly. I think it's to be installed so that it straddles the "star" shaped piece. Either of these things could cause the wear marks on the stopper.
Keep us posted!

[zoomerman]

everything works on it the star thing goes to the thing that tells you what gear you are in. the jb weld holds the bolt on but they put too much on and i used to hit but it doesn't anymore right now i'm just worried about the clutch so if someone could look at the pic's an tell me if i should replace just the friction disks or the steel disks too i need to know within the hour beucase they close in an hour please help thanks

[jeswinehart]

I am sure if the steel disc are not warped ,,, they are okay. Just rough them up on the concrete floor before reinstalling ( both sides )
You can lay them on a peice of glass to check for warpage.


john

[zoomerman]

ok i ordered the fiber clutch plates by barnette they were 8 dollars each is barnette a good make?

[jeswinehart]

yes they are good. And you will probbly get a nice decal from them too :)

john

[zoomerman]

that's good and a decal too!! yeah!

[DAKOTA]

Help me i got the same one it want go when its in gear i cant get the cluch off!!!!!!!