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zoomerman
08-16-2005, 09:20 PM
hey i picked up a 1984 125m for 400 candian therew was no battery or igetion
i got the igetion but the honda dealer messed up and i still don't have the battery well this machine has no torqe at all it won't make it up a small hill i need help it's crap if anyone can help thanks.

Tri-ZNate
08-16-2005, 09:38 PM
You mean torque? does it seem like the clutch is slipping perhaps? It is still reving correctly right?

nouseforaname90
08-16-2005, 09:41 PM
Maybe you have it in 5th gear trying to go up that hill? Try downshifting.. :)

trikes4life
08-16-2005, 10:17 PM
Maybe you have it in 5th gear trying to go up that hill? Try downshifting.. :)

I thnk he is right! LOL

zoomerman
08-17-2005, 11:27 AM
the engine runs fine and i have to click it into low to drive it. and if i drive it for more than five minutes then it's doesn't even really move but it runs fine.

bigredhead
08-17-2005, 11:58 AM
Clutch...........

That little guy will wheelie with a good clutch...

42F67N
08-17-2005, 12:00 PM
Yea i have a 84 125m and it has no problem with hills or wheelies its a tough lil sucker,id look into the clutch.

zoomerman
08-17-2005, 12:15 PM
k thanks i'll take the clutch apart tonight

trikezilla
08-17-2005, 04:35 PM
I second everyones opinion on the clutc. I had somewhat the same prob. you mentioned, and It runs like a million bucks...they're tough lil buggers LOL

Tri-ZNate
08-17-2005, 05:55 PM
k thanks i'll take the clutch apart tonight

Just try tightening it. On most auto clutch machines you can tighten up the centrifical clutch.

zoomerman
08-17-2005, 06:01 PM
the clutch is almost tightened all the way well i'm going out now and taking it apart

zoomerman
08-17-2005, 06:35 PM
i tightened the clutch all the way witch was only like a half turn so i think the cltuch is worn like crazy

Tri-ZNate
08-17-2005, 06:37 PM
most likely. your goin righty tighty right? :D

bigredhead
08-17-2005, 06:38 PM
IF it's like the 200cc series.. you should go counterclockwise until it stops.. then go in x amount to set the clearance.......... are you sure you did it correctly ?

zoomerman
08-17-2005, 06:48 PM
oh i thought * go clockwise when it gets loose

bigredhead
08-17-2005, 08:04 PM
and don't forget this is the 200cc models.. but after backing out all the way.. you go in either a 1/4 or 1/2 turn depending on the models.. ... ..... so it's not much.

then you lock it down with the outer nut.

zoomerman
08-17-2005, 08:04 PM
oh i get it yeah i did it right but it still doesn't have any power so i'm going to take the right crankcase cover off and look at the clutch

Meat-BoX
08-17-2005, 09:45 PM
I have an 84 and I pulled my tractor out of a mud hole with it with 2 flat tires. Its got to be the clutch, is it revving high but still not moving? Allso you could be losing compression or it could be sucking air. Check that out after the clutch. Can you go through all the gears? Allso check your clutch cable and clean your Air Filter. Look for clogs maybe. Thats all I know to do from here. Good luck. Dont give up the Honda 125 M is a great little Trike.

zoomerman
08-17-2005, 10:07 PM
the engine runs fine and i did a compression test on it and it had about 140 psi thats ok right??? i can go through all the gears but it doesn't shift right half the time

Tri-ZNate
08-17-2005, 10:12 PM
Did you ever try holding the shifter up and dropping it into gear? When you do that it should set you on your back if the clutch isnt ****** up.

zoomerman
08-17-2005, 10:17 PM
all that really does when the engine is cold is take the weight off the tire for a second but i can't get the crankcase cover off two scews r on there tightly!!

bigredhead
08-17-2005, 10:43 PM
With those phillips screws... IF you are lucky you can sometimes take a dremel tool with a cutting disk and cut a groove for a flat-head screw driver.

Use a socket with a flat head bit so you can really push on it when you twist.

zoomerman
08-17-2005, 10:45 PM
yeah there phillp screws thanx 4 the idea!!

fatfords
08-18-2005, 12:57 PM
I've had good luck removing those screws with an old fashioned "impact driver" with a large philips bit installed. Don't hit it too hard, but it worked for me on my 90 and 110.

zoomerman
08-18-2005, 04:26 PM
yeah thats wat i've used before 2

42F67N
08-18-2005, 05:55 PM
I think mines due for a clutch also it is hard to get into gear sometimes.

zoomerman
08-18-2005, 06:45 PM
do i need the whole chutch or do * think it's just the clutch plates

nimda78
08-18-2005, 07:22 PM
if the basket is fine, and the stee plates arent heat fractured, yes..all you need is the fiber clutch plates. soak them in oil 12-24hrs before * install them

zoomerman
08-19-2005, 02:17 PM
hey i got the right crankcase cover off but i can't get the clutch apart the two scews are striped a bit

Sox
08-19-2005, 03:37 PM
if * have extra screws * can drill um out if worst comes to worst. or use visegrips they can do just about anything

zoomerman
08-19-2005, 05:56 PM
but the scews r flatheaded and i don't have any extras