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Kintore
08-11-2005, 06:13 PM
Can I use 10w-30 oil in my Z for the bottom end?

thats all thanks :TrikesOwn

Billy Golightly
08-11-2005, 07:23 PM
You should be fine...thats all I use.

Huffa
08-11-2005, 08:05 PM
You can use 10W30 as long as it is not energy conserving.

How do you know if it is?

Oils meeting this requirement display the Energy Conserving label in the lower portion of the doughnut-shaped API Service Symbol.

All oils have that label but if the bottom 1/2 does not have "energy conserving" in it, it's cool to use.

EC oil has friction modifiers in that could make your clutch slip.

A bit of info : http://www.chevron.ca/ProductsServices/Retail/MotorOilLabel.htm

OldSchoolin86
08-11-2005, 08:29 PM
You can use 10W30 as long as it is not energy conserving.

How do you know if it is?

Oils meeting this requirement display the Energy Conserving label in the lower portion of the doughnut-shaped API Service Symbol.

All oils have that label but if the bottom 1/2 does not have "energy conserving" in it, it's cool to use.

EC oil has friction modifiers in that could make your clutch slip.

A bit of info : http://www.chevron.ca/ProductsServices/Retail/MotorOilLabel.htm
Sweet tip!

Kintore
08-11-2005, 08:32 PM
thanks guys!

bigredhead
08-11-2005, 08:50 PM
Does your Z have a wet clutch ?

The R does not i beleive... I read of people using 80 on the tranny in R's ????

What gives ?

OldSchoolin86
08-11-2005, 09:14 PM
Does your Z have a wet clutch ?

The R does not i beleive... I read of people using 80 on the tranny in R's ????

What gives ?
They both have wet clutches.

Dammit!
08-11-2005, 09:21 PM
Does your Z have a wet clutch ?

The R does not i beleive... I read of people using 80 on the tranny in R's ????

What gives ?

I have Maxima 80 weight tranny oil in my R right now. Works just fine.

Kintore
08-11-2005, 09:23 PM
So im still clear with 10w-30?

Or if i find 80 weight tranny oil im ok?

Dammit!
08-11-2005, 09:33 PM
I used 10w-30 in my R for many years. It's fine. I only put the expensive stuff in the R because I was going to Cinders and I had heard how hard that place is on your bike (and it's true, that place is really hard on your bike).

sblt500r
08-12-2005, 01:22 PM
the belray 80w is equal to 10w30. so 10w30 will work fine.

every 3 and 4 wheeler has a wet clutch except for a belt drive quad.

3Razors
08-12-2005, 01:39 PM
10w30 is fine. Just make sure its not energy conserving. Most of the diesel oils (Rotella, Dello, ect.) are not energy conserving and are excellent choice.

51504tecates
08-12-2005, 01:40 PM
I use 15-40 for summer and 10-30 for the winter. Is 15-40 ok to use? I havent had any problems Yet. Doesnt look to be breaking down either. I usually change it every month also.

3Razors
08-12-2005, 01:42 PM
Perfectly fine to use 15w40 also.

Kintore
08-12-2005, 02:26 PM
Well damn, I bought the wrong stuff! I bought Energy Conserving! Ah man I hate it, I looked everywhere for the none energy stuff but couldnt find it, and I couldnt remember the post so I bought some. Ah well back to canadian tire.

TimSr
08-14-2005, 04:25 PM
Ive heard all this stuff about not using anything with a "friction modifier" (which by definition means a "lubricant" and I know its common belief, but I do not believe it, and I ignore it. Oil is a lubricant. Thats what its in there for. Its supposed to be slippery, and its supposed to make your clutch slip, when you pull that lever. Almost every oil out there claims to be "energy conserving" now. I run anything of the appropriate weight, 10w40, or 10w30. Ive been waiting years for all that clutch slipping stuff to happen, and Im out of patience. It started slipping when it was worn out, about 3 years ago. One clutch replacement over 15 years, using everything from Dollar General oil to Mobile 1 Synthetic or whatever was around is acceptable wear and performance for me. If you consider that too risky, Id never discourage anyone from buying the expensive stuff. Id have no qulams about dumping that bottle of "energy conserving" oil in my gearbox.

When people talk about using 80 or 85 weight oil, they are talking about motorcycle shop two stroke gearbox oils, which are somehow rated differently. All you have to do is pour one. They pour like a 10w30. If you go to Autozone and buy Valvoline 85W general purpose gear oil, your clutch will not disengage when you pull it until your engine gets very, very hot.