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250r'en +TCB
06-17-2005, 09:42 PM
Imagine puting these atv tracks on a 250r.....
Sounds dumb and retarded at first but when you realize that I live in NH and I have snowy winters, it starts to seem kinda cool. you could also jerry-rig a ski to the front forks lol. Supposibly if you buy those tracks they bolt right on, what do you think....Stupid but could have advantages, I could go on Snowmobile only trails and get around in the DEEP snow......

http://www.litefootatv.com/html/video_clips.htm

Oldshell4481
06-17-2005, 09:56 PM
supposedly these are great in mud and sand too.

bigredhead
06-17-2005, 09:58 PM
Turning would be a big issue....

and to have this on a machine with no reverse would also be a chore !!!!!

I think you'd go thru alot of clutches on an R with those.

250r'en +TCB
06-17-2005, 09:58 PM
I am sort of wondering if those atv tracks could handle the rpm's put out by an R???
I need replies from people who live up north!

bigredhead
06-17-2005, 10:00 PM
I've ridden them. Everything i posted is very accurate.

Good luck keeping the front wheel down. and if you could get it up to speed.. they would handle the speed just fine...

They are geared down internally to give you leverage on the tracks.. you have to take off in 2nd and keep the rev's going all the time.. as soon as you let off you'd come to a dead stop in 10 ft.

Oldshell4481
06-17-2005, 10:02 PM
itd suck they arent for sport machines, and it robs alot of hp.

bigredhead
06-17-2005, 10:05 PM
Yep... I've seen a 450R ( or might have been a 400 EX )with a set at the dealership with ski's on the front... Looked real cool tho !

On a 4x4 the front ones help you steer.. and you have to be moving to turn.. like a non powersteering semi.

250r'en +TCB
06-17-2005, 10:05 PM
I don't think I would have much of a problem keeping the rev's up, lol...... It would definatly create some wear and tear on the trike, but as long as the engine could handle it I'd just go through like 1 clutch every winter or so....
too bad those tracks are so much $$$ or else I'd try it!!!!

ATCnut
06-18-2005, 12:54 AM
I saw some pics at work (Boeing) of a track landing gear system that was being developed just after the WWII. It looked crazy.

hrc85250r
06-18-2005, 01:21 AM
actually there is a dealer for them down the road from me, like 2 mins....they suck. they came to my schools maple expo last year with a 600 twin polaris and it get s stuck in snow pretty damn easy.....total waste of like 5 g's in my opinion... but hey, one of the local fire deptartments/ rescue squads bought a 700 with them on it... they also have a 3/4 ton chevy with the tracks on it(obviously made for the trucks) that is setup and is used for grooming trails....they seem to work good on the trucks but not so great on the wheelers...

TRI Z Racer
06-18-2005, 01:28 AM
if i saw a 250r with tracks on any snowmobile trail rutting it up all crappy, make that any 4 wheeler or 3 wheeler, i think i would personally stop and beat them over the head with the tracks. Groomers spend countless hours grooming and getting the trail rideable and enjoyable for all snowmobilers, ruts are the hardest thing to get rid of and very dangerous when you ride into one at 65-70. Do us all a favor and buy a snowmobile to ride on trails in the winter, if you need to ride trails.

RideRed250R
06-18-2005, 03:14 AM
i think you have to have weight fo rit to work thats y the truck works good but not the quads also i think like stated you need atleast 300 horse to be able to really get your money out of them
adam

250r'en +TCB
06-18-2005, 09:33 AM
300 horse huh??? :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:
Maybe I'll try and fit a 455 big block V-8 in the 250r!!! could take a little fabrication I guess.... :w00t:

LonesomeTriZ
06-18-2005, 10:39 AM
No one has pointed out the fact that a 250R is powered by a small two stroke engine. Come on man, use some common sense. No way in hell will that two stroke turn them things with out totally wiping out your engine? Not to mention the frame and suspension damage that may result as well. Think about what a R is for. Use the correct tool for the job. :rolleyes:

Now a big red on the other hand…..

Pistonhead
06-18-2005, 11:08 AM
Those tracks are designed for like the torque monster 600cc+ 4 stroke quads. Raping those onto a 250R would be like putting an f1 car engine in a big rig it wouldn't even drive.

LonesomeTriZ
06-18-2005, 11:10 AM
Those tracks are designed for like the torque monster 600cc+ 4 stroke quads. Raping those onto a 250R would be like putting an f1 car engine in a big rig it wouldn't even drive.

That is the point I was trying to get across. That is a good analogy.

hrc200x
06-19-2005, 12:10 PM
Here is a 350x with tracks

hrc85250r
06-19-2005, 12:14 PM
thats cool, but those are def. homemade tracks...and they have WAY less rolling resistance than any of the modern track systems.....get a pic of a new one and post it next to a pic of that...BIG difference....

Lots_Of_Nothing
06-19-2005, 12:17 PM
That pic is from 3wheeling magazine, there was a company that offered that kit for the ATC's.

250r'en +TCB
06-19-2005, 07:14 PM
hey hrc200x, what is the name of the company who made those??? Also where did you get that picture????
If they were built for a trike they proubly won't be so hard on the \R's engine and tranny.....

hrc200x
06-19-2005, 07:35 PM
I don't know the company. I think the pic was posted on the boards a few years ago. Maybe someone with old mags could scan any tests they did on it?

bigredhead
06-19-2005, 09:45 PM
That should work.. but as said above.. those look very light weight with a smaller footprint... and it's on a 350 X FOUR STROKE !!!!

atcpunk107
06-20-2005, 12:32 AM
i like the thought of them on a big red personally, even on the pre 250es, on the hard tail 200es it would be perfect, plenty of weight, good power in high gear, all the power you would need in low, the only thing i would do is put like a differentiol controll on it like Kawi had on their prairie 250, wher you can go from single wheel to both wheel, i think alot of you have a misconseption of the track as it is, their not ment for high speeds or mx, thei are ment for work, slow ruff trails, and traction, jell putting them on and r would be like puting a slow plow on a honda civic, no damn sense

84honda 200X
06-20-2005, 01:56 AM
My dads friend his wifes kid has a set of tracks like the ones on that 350X. He has them on his wheeler. I guess it doesnt turn very well but it goes through stuff pretty good.

rustbucket
06-20-2005, 08:41 AM
Hey guys I had a wonderful Idea. If you want to go through the deep snow at high speeds(25mph +) buy one those wonderful little things called a snow mobile. won't have to worry about tracks being to heavy.

250r'en +TCB
06-20-2005, 09:28 AM
^^^ well why don't I just by a damn airplane so I don't even have to touch the snow?
The reason I suggested this was because it would be unique, and funny. I was just curious to see how one would go... And if I wanted to take the easy was out I'd just be satufied with my 500 Polaris Indy, but no!!! I need a winter trike!!

OldSchoolin86
06-20-2005, 11:54 AM
Tracks on a trike are a horrible idea. Your not going to be able to steer that well, your going to be taxing your motor way too hard, and your still going to sink in anything soft. You'd probably be better off with a tandem setup like the Poolaris 6x6's outfitted with paddle style tires. It would be a heck of a lot cheaper to do too.

bigredhead
06-20-2005, 11:59 AM
Is there an echo in here ????

OldSchoolin86
06-20-2005, 12:13 PM
Is there an echo in here ????Yes, because it looks like the first couple of times around didn't work yet. :p

250r'en +TCB
06-20-2005, 02:12 PM
paddle tires arn't a bad thought. Do they sell them in 20x11-10 though? that and just mount a ski to the front wouldn't be that hard to do. Only proublem with paddle tires is if you ride them on anything hard you would trash them.... :rolleyes:

Russell 350X
06-20-2005, 03:18 PM
Wonder how those tracks would do on a Polaris Big Boss 6X6? That would be neat.




Russ

OldSchoolin86
06-20-2005, 05:20 PM
paddle tires arn't a bad thought. Do they sell them in 20x11-10 though? that and just mount a ski to the front wouldn't be that hard to do. Only proublem with paddle tires is if you ride them on anything hard you would trash them.... :rolleyes:
Gotta have the right paddle for the job ;)
http://www.rockymountainatv.com/Product_Graphics/T_TER_TRA_TIRE.JPG

Pistonhead
06-20-2005, 06:10 PM
Eh if I want tracks I'll just buy a surplus tank and drive through **** with it. Then after I make an offroad course by driving the tank through **** I'll drive the trike over that.