my 85 200x

[jenndnn3]

I figured I would start this since it is close to being finished.

I got this trike in a trade for an little mini 50. I also recieved a 110 with it. Sold that off. So start price, -$200. It came with tons of spare parts, Xr engine was free.

The engine was fulley gone through flushed, bearings changed out then the swap of internals. She is getting the 6 speed xr tranny. Got the xr crank (by the way before you ask no it dont add anything) the fulltopend with her rockers put into an 200es head for added decompression. Basically all that is left on the 200x is the kicker, the inside cases, and stator/electrical system. Someday I hope to go further on the spare topend I have and take it full to max. With the 5 speed tranny I have left over. I Kinda got a little excited on some the oldschool stuff that I was able to get for this. (oldschool is spendy stuff)

The frame and anything I could think of was taken in and powder coated. It was slow, because I delibertly (SP?) made sure to use same colors in each batch I turned in. MUCH cheaper. The last batch, white will hopefully be done this next week.

I added some stuff along the way, will be adding the oldschool stuff after breakin. Westcoast swingarm, duro tires, number plate.

Hopefully with selling of some of the extra stuff, shopping smart, I hope to stay well below the $500 for total rebuild on this thing. With all accessaries.

[Jeb]

Looks great so far Jenn! Can't wait to see it finished.

[Lomax]

Looking great, I hope that mine turns out that great....

[Troll 2]

Looks like a great revival. Nice work................................. :beer

[bigredhead]

curious to know how the 6 speed thing works out !!

[03 ORANGE SHEE]

i like the look of the flat track tires on the back, all it needs is that powerplant installed!! ;)

[kilabeez0]

under $500??????? how much was powdercoating? if you got all new plastics, levers, cables, bars, tires, rims, brakes, you'd be well ove $500. Guess it's not a full resto! :p :Bounce :beer

[chris200x]

Very nice work. What is it with every 200x I see has that enormous gap between the seat and the tank. mine is the same way. Are you putting blue duro's on that sucker too?

[Lomax]

Thats a 250r front fender on there, curious to know if that just bolted right up? If it did then I am going to be pissy pants that i went with a stock fender........

[kilabeez0]

well pissy pants they bolt right up!

[Lomax]

well dammit! ohwell, i guess i will get over it, better than coughing up more money to get yet another new fender

[83185s]

looks great!!!

[Huffa]

Good job & looks magnificent :beer

Few ?'s

I got to paint a few motors myself and wondering what paint you used.

Been years since I did a motor but I think I use a black engine case paint.

The paint you used, does the sheen match up close to how stock was?

Did you use the same for side cases as you used for cylinder & head?

Have you used it before and if so how did it hold up?

[jenndnn3]

Ah powdercoating, Now you see I was smart, real smart. I had to do the 350x because of a small swim it took in salt water. So the spare frame you see in the pict of the 1 trike w/spare, frame went with it. So for the two yes the two was $75. All The pieces that were the same color were free. Then there is a batch of black. This included 2 swingarms and all the tiny pieces I had pretty much double of everything, 2 sets of hubs, blah blah. $53. After selling things off I am $10 in the hole for this job. Half of this stuff is on ebay, or was sold outright. Now The plastic, well was already new for rear, and I swiped my R's front, which does have a crack, (yes as already answered a direct bolt) that is from over tightening the screws on it. The shrouds are currently in exchange with certian folks, over spare parts. So no plastic is not brand spankin new, but My plastic looks nice. The white Batch, will prob be around $60. I had a plastic gastank on it originally, which I yanked and sold for half of new. Already had the original, (white batch). So guess what paid for what. So total, powdercoating, Aprox $25 bux.

Now sistered with this trike in trade was that 110 I mentioned, None runner, till I got a coil from Howdy, $13 bux I think it was, made it a runner, sold it for $200.

3 engines, dismantled I took, micrometer every part, made sure I had good parts, sent crank, piston, cylinder, valves, in for spec and relapp you know basics $256, that included parts. I am still selling stuff of that came with this thing. So right now $81 bux there.

The westcoast has sent me over budget. But I had to have it. The duros were bought with the number plate several months ago. Originally destened(sp?) for the 86 200x. White /blue well I changed my mind. So I am right now at $500, with stuff still to sell. It was my original goal to keep it free, but that didnt happen. Oldschool stuff put it up there. I still have one engine that needs a full rebuild. But that will wait. Everything that needed replaced got replaced, everything that was restoreable/useable wass used. Since I spent smart and wheeled and dealed then I guess you can call it not a full restore. That is up to the good folks, But frankly I did pretty freakin good, does it make you sick? :p ;) :D . The trike is essentially free, except the westcoast, duros, and plate. I could sell that stuff off and make my 86 200x free as well, but hey I like the stuff. (dont pm me the stuff isnt for sale).

Oh And I have a pair of rm80's still wrapped up int this whole deal to sell as well, but you know trying to explian wheeling and dealing well you would be confused. This all started with a pair of 70's by the way.

Paint I used based on recommendations semi gloss duplont(sp?) engine paint. I have never used it before, so I dont know about test of time, but it was so nice to apply. Eeryone else says it holds up great so I took their word for it. It was used on whole engine.

[Howdy]

Great and I mean GREAT job Jenndnn3!! A lot of people have lost or just don't use the wheeliing and dealing ability. Jenn has shown just how the power of wheeling and dealing can work to keep the cost of building and rebuilding these machines down. Howdy

[jenndnn3]

Thank you Howdy. I was reading through my post thought it was a little too much rub in your face type thing.?

Chris I forgot I am sorry, Yeah alot of these seats tend to lift. There is a trick of heating the plastic and rebending it back which I will be attempting to do eventually. I think it was Mobular that gave an excellent tip on how to do this.

Orange, there is major sport here in flat tracking, the second engine is to be built for it. Who knows we may someday get brave and try it, but its an expensive sport.

[kilabeez0]

Killer deal Jenn. I was just kidd'n with you anyway! Could you tell me the tip of bending the seat back? I have a heat gun and would like to hear how to do it. Thanks!!!

[jenndnn3]

http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=15371&highlight=heat+200x+seat

[kilabeez0]

Since i just had my seat recovered i'd rather not take it off, but I think I'll try and heat it and bend it the way it is.

[thefox]

Looks great Jen! You are really inspiring me to get working on mine. But all for $50,0 you are making me jealous, I will probably have more then that in mine at the end of the summer and still not have an engine.

[kilabeez0]

man i drop a couple hundred here and there and dont even think about it. i should really try and do what you do! i dont have time to do all the bartering and selling though since I have my parts scattered between my parents house and my work.

[jenndnn3]

The bearings were the trick behind this. I was looking at astronomical figures if I stayed honda oem. I took each bearing into a specialty bearing , industrial place and cross reference what I could get away with. Did the seals as well. Only 2 had not been able to cross off (kicker needle bearing). The 3 major shaft bearings slashed lots off total price. Then after talking to my shop I do buisness with, we went through the needle bearings and flushed and reused. I went ahead since the engine was apart and replaced crank bearing. I crossreferenced several parts, and found most identical. This took hours with partsfish, but extremely effective. The topend I pulled off the xr was almost perfect. The intake valve had burned up therefore it was the only one due for replacement. The piston well, I am pushing it to next rebuild. Its wear is right there. We hashed this speced it, and are pushing it. So rering, and next rebuild it gets replaced. I reused alot of stuff. I raped 3 engines to produce one good one.

Out of the 3 engines the bad was a bad crank, Oh boy this was in the running engine no less, I figure another couple rides and we would have seen a hole in this one. By the way, this had stripped exhaust studs, and the exhaust was blown off the engine. Not to mention kicker issue Definate split. Was it ran this way? I dont know. The next one bottom end, well this baby started it all. Here was a good bottom end....YEAH RIGHT!?! I dont know why I had this forsight because I am not one to do it till this point, I stuck a magnet down the hole of the crank. (I tell you what first thing drug out is a magnet now)That Screwed this whole process up. My originall plan was to just rebuild a 200x, but no I have to frikken split this one too. Fine If I gotta split, then watch out. Not to mention one of you little brats wiped out the kicker fix for the 200x. They sold out before I could get mine. I am not gonna do this work unless I am assured I dont have to replace a kicker in a year. And there sitting there all lonely and looking sad is my freebie xr engine. I just planned to get into him later, HA, I gotta split 6 speed is going in. Kicker solution was forming.

The biggest hits for cost was sprocket and chain. Along with the engine rebuild. I am gonna go ahead and add the pipe, and I still have a small carb issue to pan out. My latest selling on ebay have got me just enough for the dg pipe. I have my eye already on the back up piston. ebay. After this I need to fix the RM so I can finally get to my R. Besides, I have 3 kids that I need to support, and heck if one of them didnt just cost me a set of rims, plus something else, Just to keep their stuff running. But hey If they aint runniing I aint riding!

[Lomax]

Jenn, to let you know there are still a Few (5 to be exact) new 85 200X carbs left new from Honda. I bought one for mine. The price isnt to bad (or it shouldnt be), I think that DG also offers a carb for them.
-Lomax

P.S. I know I had said mine would be done in a week but if something could go wrong, it did. Plus, you just cant get the quality job when you try to hurry up things. When i get done lets make a thread of how much I spent to make mine look like it does to how much you spent (which I know mine is WAYY more) and see how they both turn out. People dont realize that they dont have to spend a ton of money to make a nice X.

[jenndnn3]

Well the carb is a stubborn issue on my part. The answer is out there, but I dont like the answer. I have a good stock carb. But the stock is gonna really hurt the performancce of this topend. The trike has not been started yet, very nervous I admit. I am waiting on 3 "special" screws. The one thing that frustrates me to no end, Honda and their silly special parts.

[kilabeez0]

i just placed an order for new 18" turf tamers and grips for my 200x at Rocky Mountain, over $100 10 minutes ago!

[Lomax]

Think Honda is bad, Try Polaris (I know that isnt trike realated but I work on them all the time)!!!!

[seadoo650]

[QUOTE=Lomax]Jenn, to let you know there are still a Few (5 to be exact) new 85 200X carbs left new from Honda. I bought one for mine. The price isnt to bad (or it shouldnt be), I think that DG also offers a carb for them.
-Lomax

Hey Lomax, How much were the stock 200x carbs? and where?

[Lomax]

the carbs were 184 + ship. out of a Honda wherehouse somewhere in america, I never asked where though. Damn sure is nice.

[thefox]

Jen, you wouldn't happen to have a list of the bearing #'s woulld you? If I can save some $ on the bearings and seals then I can pick up some brake parts this summer too.

[jenndnn3]

just sunbathing him, need a pipe, need some patience, we are getting there. conquered spark. (maybe). I think I need to change wiring harness.

[Lomax]

Looking better every time

[jmack3986]

Seadoo knows that my 83 200X was in and still is in worse shape than yours i am going to restore it this winter if it runs then i am happy. take and get you rear fenders race cut and getting carbs is pretty easy for trikes still. they are carbs nothing special about what the fit on the only thing is 4 stroke carbs to 4 strokes and 2 to 2 smokes. i wouyld have went with a 28mm carb instead of stock

[jenndnn3]

:D Carb is in the works.I need to break in first.

[200xracer18]

Great and I mean GREAT job Jenndnn3!! A lot of people have lost or just don't use the wheeliing and dealing ability. Jenn has shown just how the power of wheeling and dealing can work to keep the cost of building and rebuilding these machines down. Howdy
i got this little coment to me at a swap meet a few weeks back i was told i could sell snow to a escimo :p and h*ll i could problly :w00t:

[bigredhead]

Hey jen.. how's the 6 speed going ? does it shift thru all gears and back ?

I'm itching to know how that went.

[jenndnn3]

Yes she shifts through all gears, just havent fired her up yet, waiting on the exhaust. All mine are not fitting right.

[KayodicWeazel]

hey there, Jenn, you have any leftovers I could snatch from the table for a low price? Just basic stuff like footpegs and whatnot. I found a 200X that I want to rebuild, and it looks pretty bad. Also, how much does a 200X Westcoast swinger cost?

Nice job on the 200! Looks factory fresh!

[jenndnn3]

Well right now, I dont have much left over. And I am tired of sifting. I accomplished what I needed to. Will be out a few weeks probably before I go again. The westcoast swinger, was expensive!

[OldSchoolin86]

hey there, Jenn, you have any leftovers I could snatch from the table for a low price? Just basic stuff like footpegs and whatnot. I found a 200X that I want to rebuild, and it looks pretty bad. Also, how much does a 200X Westcoast swinger cost?

Nice job on the 200! Looks factory fresh!
Hey Weazel, next time you might want to PM someone with a classifieds type of question like this. Thanks

[jenndnn3]

A few more,

6 speed works like a champ! Still have some more to do. I already changed out the handlebars, and the gastank and swingarm need to be painted. I am struggling on fork boot color, black or white. Tires are gonna be blue. And these thing tick tick ticks. I get the ticking gone 5 minutes later its back. Intake valve is new so I need to let that wear I supposse a little plus the goofy timing chain trick with the nail I tried didnt work. But will try again. ad to up jetting right away that surprised me. 112 and a 38. Decompression I messed up and put wrong rocker in. Wasn't thinking match lever was thinking match it to cam. So I will fix that when we get back. I had to load her up for our ride this weekend. but enjoy!