getting a tri zinger tomarrow need some help

[Preddy05]

Hello Im Getting a tri zinger tommarow. had it started and it died i think it just needs the carb cleaned because it was sitting for awhile. What kind of mods can you do to these little things? i wanna go all out on this thing. anyone know where i can get an aftermarket pipe for it? what would be the best mods for it?

Thanks

[42F67N]

Since its a lil 2 stroke id say porting would get you the most gains.

as far as a pipe i dont think there is a aftermarket one for a 60 zinger but i could be wrong.

[Meat-BoX]

Flames and the yamaha on the Rear.
Gonna do a Shaft too. = Mod?


As for hop ups, Only a new top end, and good tires. But hey you knever know.

[hondatrikesrule22]

Ok, you can get a pipe for it from DG. Boyesen make fiberglass reeds for it. I would remove the air box, run a K&N filter, have the cylinder ported and polished, modify the intake to accept a cr 80 carb. and re-jet,have the flywheel lightened, shave the head down for more compression, remove the oil injection and pre-mix. If you really want to go all out, have the crank stroked. These engines are really easy to take apart, so getting to the crank wouldn't be a problem. With all that, that little motor will scream.

[Preddy05]

Ok, you can get a pipe for it from DG. Boyesen make fiberglass reeds for it. I would remove the air box, run a K&N filter, have the cylinder ported and polished, modify the intake to accept a cr 80 carb. and re-jet,have the flywheel lightened, shave the head down for more compression, remove the oil injection and pre-mix. If you really want to go all out, have the crank stroked. These engines are really easy to take apart, so getting to the crank wouldn't be a problem. With all that, that little motor will scream.

How much work would it be to make the cr 80 carb fit?

List of what im going to do.
1. pipe
2. reeds
3. p&p
4. remove oil injection
5. shave head
not sure about the cr80 carb yet

if i pre mix what would the mix ratio be? could i use the same gas from my 83r?

what will having the crank stroked do for the bike? i never had that done to anything. I also wanted to know how fast these little bikes go. I have to clean out the carb before i get to ride it and have work tonight so i won't get around to it today. Do you think this would keep up with a xr50?

I am going to be needing parts soon so if you have any let me know.

those flame fenders are sweet looking.

[hondatrikesrule22]

How much work would it be to make the cr 80 carb fit?

List of what im going to do.
1. pipe
2. reeds
3. p&p
4. remove oil injection
5. shave head
not sure about the cr80 carb yet

if i pre mix what would the mix ratio be? could i use the same gas from my 83r?

what will having the crank stroked do for the bike? i never had that done to anything. I also wanted to know how fast these little bikes go. I have to clean out the carb before i get to ride it and have work tonight so i won't get around to it today. Do you think this would keep up with a xr50?

I am going to be needing parts soon so if you have any let me know.

those flame fenders are sweet looking.


I really ain't sure about the carb. The zingers have a weird way of mounting the carb. The intake goes inside of the carb rather than the carb. going into the intake. I would probably use a piece of radiator hose. Be creative. I took a zinger intake and a ATC 110 intake and fused them together. The air opening on the carb was facing the front of the bike instead of the back. ( more air)

Sounds like a sweet list of parts you got. That stuff will wake that little zinger up. As for your pre-mix ratio, just run a higher octane fuel (depends on how much you shave the head), and a good 2 stroke oil. Stroking the crank will give the engine more tourqe and less bogging when you get on the throttle.It is worth doing. From the factory, these zingers will do about 20-25 mph with the restrictors off. If you do these mods, you will walk all over an xr 50.

I have a lot of old and new zinger parts, so just let me know if you need anything.

[bushwacker51]

I just put a DG pipe on my sons tri zinger. It really made a big difference. Runs much much better. I have a set of boysen reeds to put on it to but have not got around to putting them on yet. I completley rebuilt the motor and it is easy to take apart and put back together. Good luck Glenn Oister

[Preddy05]

anyone have a picture of a tri zinger without the plastic on it? i just got mine today off my grandpa and i would like to see what it looks like. Mine has no airbox and the oil injection system is gone. I would like to see what else is missing. I cleaned the gas tank today started up after a few pulls then died after running for about a minute. Im going to clean the carb being the bike was sitting for awhile and im almost sure thats what is wrong with it. if it might be something else please let me know thanks. Bike needs a little work but when im done with it its going to be one sweet little bike.

I need
petcock for it because someone broke off the knob that turns it to on,off,
airbox if you have one
brake leaver
choke chord.
might need some other parts not sure yet let me know if you have any of these parts.

Thanks

[Meat-BoX]

Heres a pic of a naked Zinger before Power Wash sry. I want a DG Pipe for mine how much?

[Preddy05]

Thanks for the pictures. you can get one from dg for one $150 here is a link http://www.dgperf.com/ATV/ATVProductsDetail.asp?ATVProductID=304&model=Four/Tri%20Z-Zinger

[Preddy05]

well i took the carb off of the bike today and cleaned it. now the bike starts and runs but not the best. :( You have to hold the throttle in all the way or else it won't start and you have to pull the little thing forever!! when you do get it going it wants to go but don't seem like their is any power. I took off the silencer to see if it was pluged and it made it run a little better but still don't have the power it should. The bike is missing the choke cable and my dad said it is missing some kinda spring or something that goes in the carb for the choke. Is that whats making it run like it is or do i need to replace the rings?

[TimSr]

You have that problem that every Zinger Ive ever seen has had. The exhaust gets plugged, and its not the baffle. Its that big fat part that lookes like and expansion chamber. Its actually split in half, and has a screen in the middle vertical like a spine in a fish as shown in picture with arrows. It has a sheet metal screen that goes from upper seam to lower seam. The DG exhaust will fix it, but if you want the cheap route, you pull the tube the baffle is in, out of the side. You get a drill bit as big as the hole it came out of and drill straight in through the first layer of sheet metal. You are cutting straight through the divider. Once you do this, take the baffle out, put the end cap back on the baffle pipe, and reinstall it. It will rip, and the wheels will spin long before it bogs. This is all that needs to be done, and all that should be done if you are going to put a child on it. Zingers have tons of power and will rip, when the exhaust is fixed, way beyond the abilities of any kid riding them. Mine happend to be very advanced and raced MX with his. The Zinger has a lot more get up and go than the ATC70, and handles better, but tops out somewhat lower, but still more than enough for any young kid who is size appropriate. The trike has limited suspension capabilites and awful brakes. Fix the exhaust and dont waste your time and money on porting and bigger carbs. Your carb now delivers a lot more than your exhaust can pass, which is why its giving you the problem it is right now.

[Meat-BoX]

Good Info to know about. Quick Question about the Oil Injection. It seems my Throttle cable is Sloppy Where it wraps around the Oil Injection Part. Will the Adjuster on the Cable down low Take care of that. Mine is in real sweet shape and I would like to keep the Oil injection. I just dont want any Hassles with it. Is this a Part that is Prone to breaking down or Do I adjust it like it the manual and it should be good to go? It seems to be fine and Clean except for the loose cable doesnt really make the Oil Injector spring back though. Or is it better to just mix the Gas, and Bypass that stuff.

[Preddy05]

thanks for the info on the pipe i'll have to try that.

Will any other parts from other bikes fit on the tri-zinger? If so could you please list what bikes or parts so i know what other options their are for parts.

Thanks

[TimSr]

I disconnected and plugged the oil injector right away, and ran my 50:1 MC1 mix that I was using at that time. Its much cleaner burning, especially for a bike thats known for its exhaust crapping up problems. If you are going to mix 20-32:1 though, youre probably better off just using the injector system. The only thing youd gain by premixing is a loss of convenience. The injectors rarely fail. If you run a 50:1 synthetic mix, youre better off premixing.

Good luck on parts interchanging. All Zingers from all years are the same, and the Quad-Zinger is factory 3-4 conversion. Thats about it. Some of the PW's have similar setups, but I doubt parts will interchange.

[Preddy05]

ok well maybe i'll look around and see if parts from those bikes will work. thanks for all the info on this bike timsr

[200xracer18]

send the litttl eguy my way i chould make that thing keep up with a modified lt 80