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Huffa
04-28-2005, 08:05 PM
Just dicking around in the yard would that hurt it?

Reason I ask is I saw a nice 225 for sale with the exception of the header :rolleyes: pipe missing and a few other odds and ends and the kids been riding it that way.

84honda 200X
04-28-2005, 08:07 PM
Well it wont have any back pressure period and it might burn out the valve seals.

Huffa
04-28-2005, 08:09 PM
I guess a compression test would give me those answers but then if it's good I can't use that as an excuse to talk him down. :wondering

I knew it would have no back pressure though, that's for sure!

70binder
04-28-2005, 08:30 PM
stick a drilled flat stock over it so you have some backpressure until you can get exhaust like i did on my old 110 :)

hrc85250r
04-28-2005, 09:27 PM
it will get the exhaust valves red hot...

threewheelin-feelin
04-28-2005, 09:40 PM
why not get an exhaust for it just to be safe... you know

Huffa
04-28-2005, 09:48 PM
why not get an exhaust for it just to be safe... you know

Well yea, I totally agree, it's not mine......... yet.

hotroddal
04-28-2005, 10:01 PM
i love that word "YET"

BIGCRIP28
04-29-2005, 08:32 AM
it must sound stupid without a headpipe

OldSchoolin86
04-29-2005, 08:50 AM
1 A compression test will not tell you if the valve seals are any good.

2 As said before you're risking head/valve damage.

3 You’re going to be lean, leading to over heating and cylinder damage with a possible seizure.

4 If you want to do it the respectable safe way just figure on putting an exhaust on it.

86250RZ
04-29-2005, 12:06 PM
I think what he's asking is what damage should he be looking for if he decides to buy it.

MTS
04-29-2005, 12:32 PM
if the guy has been riding it without a headpipe on your gurenteed to need a valve job right off the top- it dosent take long to burn out/bend a valve on these small motors, mind you 225 dx valves are like 22 bucks so it isnt too serious

chris200x
04-29-2005, 01:49 PM
it must sound stupid without a headpipe


lol. Kind of like a 4 clyinder with headers?

OldSchoolin86
04-29-2005, 02:06 PM
lol. Kind of like a 4 clyinder with headers?
It would sound nothing like a 4 cylinder with headers. :rolleyes:

BIGCRIP28
04-29-2005, 03:06 PM
no it sounds like a bubble machine.
like bubbly is the only way i can describe it.

ATC crazy
04-29-2005, 03:47 PM
Actually, they do sound pretty good. My friend and I cut the exhaust about 10" from the cylinder on his LT125.

hondatrikesrule22
04-29-2005, 03:50 PM
You might be a redneck if......lol. :D

AZ250R
04-29-2005, 04:51 PM
Actually, they do sound pretty good. My friend and I cut the exhaust about 10" from the cylinder on his LT125.
NO, he means it when he said it sounds "BUBBLY". With NO pipe @ ALL. I did it for a few minuits, a long long time ago... It sounds like a blip'n and high pitched pop'n almost like a submerged under watter sound. Plus things can get thrown right into that open head, like gravel & BAM! Talk the guy down just because of the use without a head pipe IMO! :mad:

Huffa
04-29-2005, 09:21 PM
Stay tuned for more info tomorrow !

......and yea they really do sound bubbly. Terrible!

350x'inNY
04-30-2005, 11:41 AM
Ok Huffa... tomorrow has come! :Bounce

Huffa
04-30-2005, 02:07 PM
Ok Huffa... tomorrow has come! :Bounce

:mad: I blame it on my wife and the weather for not being able to accomplish my mission today.

She does landscaping on the side (heck of a worker) and this morning picked up a trailer load of plants to plant, unfortunately the rain moves in and she comes home with it filled to brim with plants.

So now I must wait till tomorrow till she goes back and unloads it. :cry:

Last night I couldn't get to sleep till 1:30 just thinking about it, now I got to wait another 24 hours almost.

I'll pass the time by finishing my carb among other details I guess.

Hey, ya know what? ...........it sure will be easy working on 225 #1 once I bring 225 # 2 home! Espeacially the wiring harness. I can forget in 2 minutes or less how a part went so this will be cake now. :D

chris200x
04-30-2005, 02:23 PM
:mad: I blame it on my wife and the weather for not being able to accomplish my mission today.

She does landscaping on the side (heck of a worker) and this morning picked up a trailer load of plants to plant, unfortunately the rain moves in and she comes home with it filled to brim with plants.

So now I must wait till tomorrow till she goes back and unloads it. :cry:

Last night I couldn't get to sleep till 1:30 just thinking about it, now I got to wait another 24 hours almost.

I'll pass the time by finishing my carb among other details I guess.

Hey, ya know what? ...........it sure will be easy working on 225 #1 once I bring 225 # 2 home! Espeacially the wiring harness. I can forget in 2 minutes or less how a part went so this will be cake now. :D


I kind of figured you would be tossing and turning all night.... Get your ole lady out there to unload YOUR trailer And go get my new ride. :D lol

Huffa
04-30-2005, 02:29 PM
I kind of figured you would be tossing and turning all night.... Get your ole lady out there to unload YOUR trailer And go get my new ride. :D lol

If I asked her to do that she'd have a FIT! No can do, just have to wait. She doesn't even know I'm getting it either! :rolleyes:

It's total crap out anyway, I like picking toys up when it's a 1/2 decent day so tomorrow will work out fine.

+ It's going directly to the car wash.

chris200x
04-30-2005, 02:38 PM
If she gives you any lip :D Just tell her it is mine or Brian's

I bet you this is the way most of us buy trikes these days...Gotta keep it low key...wait till they're sleepling, then quietly slip it into the garage unnoticed. If they see them you just say what in the heck are you talking about...that's been sitting there for months!!! :Bounce :w00t: :TrikesOwn

Huffa
04-30-2005, 03:22 PM
If she gives you any lip :D Just tell her it is mine or Brian's

I bet you this is the way most of us buy trikes these days...Gotta keep it low key...wait till they're sleepling, then quietly slip it into the garage unnoticed. If they see them you just say what in the heck are you talking about...that's been sitting there for months!!! :Bounce :w00t: :TrikesOwn

Yea, that would work or hide the 1st one and show her how much I got accomplised in one day. She would never know the difference!

Oldshell4481
04-30-2005, 05:11 PM
lol thats great, or you can tell here you've always had two she just never noticed

Huffa
04-30-2005, 06:32 PM
Ya know, I should test her. Hide the Bumble Bee under wraps & put the new one in its place, I'll bet she doesn't even take a second glance! :D

83185s
05-01-2005, 01:10 AM
hey 1 tip...dont leave it runnin in one spot..it causes fires..lol..my friend accidentally did that on his 110...the whole thing went up in flames...it was funny but it had to suck for him

Huffa
05-01-2005, 01:15 AM
hey 1 tip...dont leave it runnin in one spot..it causes fires..lol..my friend accidentally did that on his 110...the whole thing went up in flames...it was funny but it had to suck for him

........and I'll bet there was a fire extingwisher right aside of you! :D

350x'inNY
05-01-2005, 01:27 AM
Huffa.... you so inspired me to take those Yamaline (hehehee) Assessory hand guards out of the box and mount them up on my 200ERN! I worked down to the shop all day today on parting out some 200X carcasses (carcii) I had laying around.... a frame for each year 83-85!

So you going to keep that 225DX or are you going to sell it to me when your wife freaks??? :D Guess there's an advantage of being single... you're only limited to your dreams and the size of your shop! :naughty:

"Hondaline" Hartman

83185s
05-01-2005, 01:28 AM
lol no a hose! and it didnt work cause it was gas! lol..it was pretty cool tho..sucked to be him and the trike but it was cool..all he needed was a new freakin gas tube..lol and sand and repaint the tank