200x question hp/speed

[kasuki]

how much hp does a factory 200x have and what kind of speed will it do also what kind of mods will make a big improvement on this trike .post some pics of your 200x thanks guys

[ATCWRENCH]

a factory 85 200X will put out between 12-14HP and will go between 55-60MPH. as for mods, depends on what you want, if you want just a little more power but not much put a 10.25:1 piston in it, go to webcams racing and get the cam thats the next over stock and get a DG exhaust. do a little port work on the intake side and a little more on the exhaust. put a K&N filter in and you should have a spry little machine on your hands for awesome trail riding. now if you want a small rocket to ride, go one full millimeter over bore, 12:1 piston, full racing cam, a full racing port job on the intake and exhaust, 31mm intake valve from webcams racing, 28mm carb, DG exhaust, K&n filter, no air box lid, put it an alcohol or vp 110 race gas, and 2 more teeth one the front sprocket and 20" tires in the rear. with the first set up you might get 17-19HP out of the litle motor or you could go with the second choice and have about 22-25HP. granite that don't sound like a whole lot when you compare that to 250R's, tecate's, and TRI-Z's but when you think how small the 200x is, either build up would make it very fun

[OldSchoolin86]

a factory 85 200X will put out between 12-14HP and will go between 55-60MPH. as for mods, depends on what you want, if you want just a little more power but not much put a 10.25:1 piston in it, go to webcams racing and get the cam thats the next over stock and get a DG exhaust. do a little port work on the intake side and a little more on the exhaust. put a K&N filter in and you should have a spry little machine on your hands for awesome trail riding. now if you want a small rocket to ride, go one full millimeter over bore, 12:1 piston, full racing cam, a full racing port job on the intake and exhaust, 31mm intake valve from webcams racing, 28mm carb, DG exhaust, K&n filter, no air box lid, put it an alcohol or vp 110 race gas, and 2 more teeth one the front sprocket and 20" tires in the rear. with the first set up you might get 17-19HP out of the litle motor or you could go with the second choice and have about 22-25HP. granite that don't sound like a whole lot when you compare that to 250R's, tecate's, and TRI-Z's but when you think how small the 200x is, either build up would make it very fun
25hp sounds a little high. So your saying you can pull the same hp out of a 200x as a 350x?

[ATCWRENCH]

I've seen it done with my own 2 eyes. buddy of mine had a 200x built like i said and he has out ran/run down many stock 350x's in drag races. his ran on alcohol and it screamed for a 200x. I didn't believe it either until I seen it in action

[chris200x]

Here's my money pit. :D

I wonder why the x is faster than the other Honda 200 models? It's the same motor isn't it? I think they are lighter than the 200s and 200m.

[Oldshell4481]

they have different compression, and they are light

[Maine_Triker]

they have different compression, and they are light

Don't forget the different gear ratio's.

[shudup]

yep mine as of now
1 mm over bore
12:1 piston
supper trap exhaust
uni air filter
rocker arm broke so my web cam is messed up and am useing stock fer now :(

[Bill X_R]

Here's my money pit. :D

I wonder why the x is faster than the other Honda 200 models? It's the same motor isn't it? I think they are lighter than the 200s and 200m.


Engine RPM X Final Drive ratio = Top speed

[83185s]

well..mine goes about 50mph on the 22mm 185s carb...it aint goin very good..it stays running but when i put it in 4th or 5th and try to haul....theres a very loud tapping noise that sounds like a rocker or lifter is tapping very bad...it wont do it on choke cause it doesnt let the engine get to a high enough rpm but when its not on choke its bad...could it be the 87 octane on a 12:1 wiseco 67mm piston?? i have a smaller carb on it right now also..the only reason theres 87 octane instead of 93 or higher is cause i ran outa gas and thats all we had at the house...it runs good tho...just that loud tapping...i think i need to adjust the rockers and/or lifters but it seems to run great...it climbs hills pretty good in 2nd too

[83185s]

so * think its my lifters or whatever they are..or the gas?? today it really screwed me over...i was ogin down the road..and it overheated!! not cool..i waited about 5 minutes and it started back up..got about 3 miles from my house..did it again...wouldnt run on choke or nothin..now that i got my kickstarter fixed...it hasnt over heated but for some reason running really rich..a smaller carb makin it run to rich?...it runs good for a few minutes but then it starts bogging and the only thing i can do is turn the choke on or turn off the machine..it will start up fine again after bout 5 minutes but it runs really rich..98 main 40 pilot..think its the slide needle? im going to mess with that tomarrow..its bolwing out black smoke when i hit the gas so im thinkin its too rich..lol..the plug is dry black and brownish right where the little thing is where it sparks...i dunno what thats a sign of...

[random-strike]

i seriously doubt a 200x will go 55-60mph.

mine feels like its running out of poop about 45mph (before it was smoking ;))

[firefirefire90]

mine ran at like...64mph. ANything is possible with the right amount of money.

[always3never4]

my 85 with only a uni and bassani pipe tops out around 60

[random-strike]

i meant stock :P

[Mike_Ham_250R]

Your saying a piped 200x will out run a 400ex? HAHAHHAHA

[always3never4]

i dont know about out run but i have done 60ish in my 200x
drove next to my friends car and topped out 60ish

22in tires might have something to do with that

and honestly for people to know with the right gearing anything can haul ass just wont accelerate

[topoortorideon4]

well..mine goes about 50mph on the 22mm 185s carb...it aint goin very good..it stays running but when i put it in 4th or 5th and try to haul....theres a very loud tapping noise that sounds like a rocker or lifter is tapping very bad...it wont do it on choke cause it doesnt let the engine get to a high enough rpm but when its not on choke its bad...could it be the 87 octane on a 12:1 wiseco 67mm piston?? i have a smaller carb on it right now also..the only reason theres 87 octane instead of 93 or higher is cause i ran outa gas and thats all we had at the house...it runs good tho...just that loud tapping...i think i need to adjust the rockers and/or lifters but it seems to run great...it climbs hills pretty good in 2nd too
I had similar symptoms with my 185s it would only run on full choke. I turns out the gas cap was not letting enough air in.

[deathman53]

a worked 200x is fast, I can keep up with alot of atv's on top end. A top speed of 70 isn't out of question, mine can pull 14/36 on 20" tires with ease and now its out to get 12:1 piston, cam, valves. I usually use 18" tires and do mx with it. I am gonna put a speedometer on my bike to see how fast it will go, I can keep up with 400ex's. Seeing is believing, a worked 200x can really move.

[JackFlack]

so * think its my lifters or whatever they are..or the gas?? today it really screwed me over...i was ogin down the road..and it overheated!! not cool..i waited about 5 minutes and it started back up..got about 3 miles from my house..did it again...wouldnt run on choke or nothin..now that i got my kickstarter fixed...it hasnt over heated but for some reason running really rich..a smaller carb makin it run to rich?...it runs good for a few minutes but then it starts bogging and the only thing i can do is turn the choke on or turn off the machine..it will start up fine again after bout 5 minutes but it runs really rich..98 main 40 pilot..think its the slide needle? im going to mess with that tomarrow..its bolwing out black smoke when i hit the gas so im thinkin its too rich..lol..the plug is dry black and brownish right where the little thing is where it sparks...i dunno what thats a sign of...

I would say your running Lean. Over Heating, able to run with Choke on, small carb, your lean.

[NewOldSchool]

my 185s has alread pulled like 3 200x's.....thats on the low end though and on pavement......the things got golf cart tires and a smaller machined sprocket for the top end.....haha......some carb jetting done to it too.....the 185s isnt much slower stock than a 200x.....just on the top end...the gearing is the only thing helping the x

[miajosh]

just a thoughtis this with a 83-85 200x or a 86-87 200x.. i as cuz i just got a 86 200x and ive ben trying to see what the end result is gonna be like when i build it up.

[WIkid500]

i seriously doubt a 200x will go 55-60mph.

mine feels like its running out of poop about 45mph (before it was smoking ;))




Mine did 54 on the GPS last year with 18" tires and 14 tooth gear on the front.

This year with the 20" tires she should be fast. Hadn't made a wide open gps run with it yet due to breaking in the new engine. The stroker crank pulls nicely.

[TeXaS SoB]

my 200s pulled 49mph with me on it on the gps its bone stock and needs a carb rebuild and i weigh 225 i was quit impressed with that speed lol

[haggard 2hundie]

not sure of what mods it has yet but mine was clocked at 58mph

[haggard 2hundie]

same question some of the performance packages ive looked into, sparks , powroll didnt have a kit for the 86, dint make any sense, the 86/87's are only the baddest looking 200x

[SWIGIN]

Back when they were new me and my buddys all clocked our 200x's with a car on a back road. They all were between 50-60 but they were stock to mild built motors.

[Aka_am]

A second gen x, can keep up with a 400ex no problem. there is 100 pound difference right away. A 86 has 18hp. mild performance mods and your at 21-22. you past the 400ex at 19-20. and your at a 440ex with cam, exhaust and jetted at 22hp for sure.

[AutoXer]

Just to get back to this guys problem ... when you run a high compression piston you need to run high octane gas. Also a 185 carb is smaller than a 200x carb so don't do that. I have a big carb and intake for a 200x for $100 shipped if you are interested and if when you run the carb that is suppose to be on there and the correct fuel it doesn't make noise and overheat then the valves are fine

[200XMichigan]

What's the most power you can get out of the 200X without running race gas? Also what compression should be run to avoid stripping out the kicker gears? What lower end mods are needed to keep from blowing the tranny apart.

[Grizzlypeg]

I agree with the 200x being able to do between 55 and 60 mph. Mine has no problem winding out in 5th gear, and that's plenty fast enough for me. I have a Wiseco 10.5 to 1 compression piston and a performance exhaust system. Its pretty good for a little 200c motor. It will keep up with quads 3x the displacement. My Grizzly 600 would only do just shy of 60 mph.

[DixiePlowboy]

A stock 1st Gen 200X is a 50-53 mph machine on a radar gun.

My old riding buds and I had this discussion back in the 80's. After a magazine did an exhaust shootout article, complete with radar gun top speeds, one X rider in our group protested. A friendly cop in our little town clocked a couple of us to settle the issue. The boy's stock geared, stock motored, stock tired '85 200X ran 52mph on flat ground....which mirrored what the shootout article was getting.

My '85 YTM Yamahauler 200E ran 54mph on the same stretch, but the rackless Yammie had the tires overinflated:), a Kerker exhaust, and a DG camshaft. I attribute the higher top speed to the higher RPM's the Yammie was turning with the aftermarket cam.

I have no idea how much a full tilt 5-speed X can max out at, but honestly stock ones aren't running 60mph on flat ground.

[Grizzlypeg]

I guess we are all handicapped by a lack of speedometer, and not driving on roads where a car can match us. Feels fast to me.

[DixiePlowboy]

Speedometers are sometimes hindered by a lack of calibration, anyway. Radar is accurate enough for me to go by. Besides, 50-53mph is plenty fast enough to get hurt or killed with.

Grizz, with yours having a bump in compression and an aftermarket exhaust, I expect yours is a bit faster than stock if your final drive ratio is at least stock or higher. That shootout article I referenced found as much as 2-3 mph difference between brands of exhaust. I know my boy's 350X (exhaust, carbed, cammed, higher compression, and taller geared...14 tooth front sprocket on 22" tires) is running faster on top end than a stock 350X.

I do actually ride the roads to get to and from the ride areas around here. A trip up the 4-lane (on the 350X mostly)sometimes includes(slowly) passing cars that I assume are traveling close to or slightly below the 65mph. speed limit, but I don't know for sure.

One day I'll see one of those radar trailers with the speed readout screen sitting close enough by to buzz by it and find out what this 350X runs. Or better yet, my taller geared R.

[topless]

I ran a stock 200s carb on my stock 200x with K&N filter and Cobra exhaust and it was terrible lean. I changed to a stock 200x carb, and it made all the difference. Stock 200s carb is smaller and main jet is 100. 200x carb runs a 108 main and is a completely different carb, nothing interchanges.

[Dirtcrasher]

The 86/87 can be built to fly...... Mine is neck and neck with my 350X. It has a lightened flywheel, porting, WEBCAM, 12:1, Supertrapp, race gas and a 28mm Mikuni F/S........

My 350X may be stock aside from jetting and a ST exhaust, but it's no oil burning slouch........

Sure, it's fast on top end but the compromise is in the low end. You MUST keep the revs up.

People say that the 83-85 is easier to build and has more parts available...... All I'm missing is a lightened crank....... Oversized valves would be nice too.

Going FAST costs LOTS of money so I suggest people do it in stages.

I've owned both, and the 86/87X is far superior with TONS of upgrades. The problem was the trike ban in that era, so getting extended axles and swingers is nearly impossible.

[DixiePlowboy]

^^^ I agree on the '86-'87 200X being faster.

I rebuilt an '86 200X back in '01 with just a 10.25:1 piston and a Cobra exhaust....just that little change, and correct jetting of course. 6th gear seemed to move on pretty good, much better than my next '84 200X with 12:1, Cobra ex., and a mild cam could top out at.

[btchi250r]

i dont want to sound dumb...but that is inposible.ha ha ha ha......... i am new to building atc motors...whats the best relaible combo for a 1985 200x..i want the xtra juice to go over the hill

[Xpress]

Just yesterday my friend got right up on my tail, for some reason, and wouldn't stay back, so I punched it, and he said I got up to 64mph going downhill. I know his trucks speedometer is calibrated properly, because he had it calibrated recently. It's still a fast ride :D